When I read the letter from the producer where Yoshida hinted at the new job system I started wondering what it'd be. Before that announcement I thought we'd be getting a simple advancement or specialization jobs for our current armory system; however the way he announced the job system made me think otherwise.
Yoshida mentions the job system seperate from the armory system so here is the theory I came up with to make sense of it. They're simply going to add a job system in place of physical levels. Our jobs will be how they implement the traditional classes (it is a job system and traditional Final Fantasy classes are almost always as far as I know called jobs). This way they can get rid of physical levels yet still keep a little bit of complexity to the leveling system. In FFXI you could level up a job and then the weapon and magic skills within that job. In this system it seems we'll have a kind of job system (that'll get job abilities, traits, and maybe the two hours they mentioned they are working on) and the armory system to replace weapon and magic skills. Every job will be capable of using any armory class to a varying degree of profession. Maybe a white mage learns cure spells from armory classes at lower ranks or uses less mp or something.
It's just a theory I came up with while waiting, tell me what theories you people have and if you like mine~
Job/Armory system speculation
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04-20-2011, 05:31 PMLyndisJob/Armory system speculation
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04-20-2011, 05:56 PMSeif
I'll be pretty disappointed if they come up with some "halfway there"-change and decide to keep all the current classes. I've lvled MAR PUG LNC CON & THM and there's literally no difference between them. Simple balance tweaks can't fix the fundamental flaw of all classes having the same feeling in them.
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04-20-2011, 06:00 PMSonic_the_HedgehogI agree, also when they change the system they should wipe everyone's level back to zero. To help people learn how the new classes work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seif
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04-20-2011, 06:18 PMLyndis
I'm pretty sure they already said they won't do a wipe that takes players back to rank 1. I also posted that idea with the fact that they're going to tweak the armory system abilities a lot.
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04-20-2011, 07:08 PMSonic_the_HedgehogYeah I know they won't, but I think they should do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyndis
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04-20-2011, 07:18 PMLenneth_ValkyrieI'm not sure everyone would like to see their time spent become smoke..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog
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04-20-2011, 07:27 PMPhysic
pug feels different to me, maybe its your style of play.
I think jobs may end up taking over for stat placement, and have overall special effects/traits
a reset would be a very bad idea. though people didnt pay monthly, this is not really a beta, people bought hard copies of the game, and were told it was all official. -
04-20-2011, 08:39 PMgifthorseI think they will add specialisations onto the pre-existing classes, myself. And the job system will be an official recognition of your specialisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyndis
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04-20-2011, 08:49 PMMajidah
Yoshi-p already stated in an interview he was considering two paths: to rename the old classes or to make the traditional jobs into advanced jobs. Pretty sure that's what the new system is. I'm hoping for something similar to FFT.
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04-20-2011, 09:01 PMgifthorseHe didn't say he would rename classes! LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majidah
He said he would make the classic jobs specialisations within the wider FFXIV class parameters or he would make them advanced classes (like you said). -
04-20-2011, 09:07 PMCairdeas
The job system that is being implemented is being implemented ontop of not in replacement of the Weapon Class (Armoury System).
They already said they wont be doing anything to the old class except balancing against the new job system. But the names, and basic functionality of the Armoury system is going to be unchanged.
The best example of how this might work is this. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...pecializations -
04-20-2011, 11:47 PMBrightshadow
Maybe what they are planning to do is the following.
Replace the Physical Level with the Job Level, and make it so that instead of the strength of your character being focused on the Weapon rank, it would be focused on the Job Level which is a restart, but not a complete restart. I can see something like this working they can separate skills & Spells and put them into job, but make them uncrossable, and the weapon skills can be used by anyone and be unlocked by rank. Heck maybe in the job system UI you can put stats like the Physical levels making it just a improvement not a replacement. If it added this way don't forget Time mage lol :p -
04-21-2011, 12:14 AMArcellSource: http://www.eorzeapedia.com/2011/03/0...naoki-yoshida/Quote:
Yoshida-san is between two possible plans at this time. The first idea is that the traditional names would be introduced as “higher” or “advanced” classes. The traditional classes would thus be something of a goal for players. The second idea is that the traditional names would be more of a subset or specialization within the existing classes.
Whatever change is put into effect needs to be right. He recognizes that he will not be able to change the system again after this, so whatever is put into place needs to work, and be able to be balanced, for years to come. Because of this his team is giving this issue a lot of thought prior to implementation.