I spent half my playtime today joining the first four dungeons as a tank with the Join Party in Progress option ticked. Most of the time I queued instantly, but more than half the time I was thrown into a dungeon with 2 damage dealers who were either AFK or standing around waiting for a healer to join midway. I did stick around and chat with a couple groups, but not once did a healer join.
The feature is neat, the few times I was able to join a full light party and help them continue on and beat the dungeon were great. However most of the time I'd have to explain how the party in progress feature works (or doesn't) and that they'd likely have an easier time re-queueing. After a while this gets tiring, and makes me feel like a jerk for bailing on the poor saps waiting.
I think the feature should only ready you when a full light party can be formed. I feel this would benefit everyone using the duty finder and encourage more people to help groups that have lost members.
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09-02-2013, 05:18 PMCaedeiaJoining Party in Progress Experience
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09-02-2013, 05:28 PMCaedeia
Alternatively, let us view the party setup and/or timer remaining on the dungeon prior to entering. On a couple occasions I was thrown in to a dungeon with a minute or less remaining, one of those where a duo was trying to defeat the boss and I was locked out of the area. That doesn't help anyone and creates a small potential for stolen loot, or unearned progress.
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09-02-2013, 10:13 PMStalkster
Yes they should have a see PT/Time feature for sure. Cause when you get a party with no healer+tank your pretty much screwed(Unless more tanks/healers start using "Join in progress" too).
Even worse is when there is a stubborn person where they insist that looking for members solo is more effective then requeing since they had to wait 30min's+, so you leave and join another "Join in Progress" que and get the same persons party over and over... -
09-03-2013, 12:16 AMIzumiRaito
"Join party in progress" should ONLY announce succesful matching if it makes the party complete again. So if 2 slots are missing, wait till both are found before announcing.
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09-03-2013, 10:07 AMMoochan
Join party in progress = join failing party.
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09-03-2013, 04:10 PMReinfeld
More than once I've been Que'd into dungeons with under 10 minutes left that never got deleted because it keeps adding new people. So annoying to wait 40 mins for a que on ACN just to go back to the end of the line.
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09-03-2013, 04:45 PMPavise
Tank here, I always tick Party in Progress whenever I've done a full run of a dungeon, since all the good loot is on the later bosses and I'm not an ass.
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09-03-2013, 07:50 PMaziiz
they should remove the box to for party in progress and just notify you there is a party in progress with that time left wanna join or continue queue no need to tick that box anymore and some ppl don't even notice that box at all :D
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09-03-2013, 10:42 PMRoyal
First time in dungeon I always start fresh. Anytime after that ill click the box.
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09-03-2013, 11:35 PMLittle_Gray
Until they fix it so that its not almost useless I wont go anywhere near it. I do not want to join a group that has only ten minutes to complete 3/4 of a dungeon or join and then wait thirty minutes for a healer. If they told you the time remaining and waited until it had a full group to send you the notice then I would use it.
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09-04-2013, 12:56 AMMixcoatlDid the same thing as a healer and never saw a tank. Just a revolving door of DD joining/dropping party. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Caedeia
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09-04-2013, 01:25 AMgigi_frana
Every "party in progress" that I joined was a disaster. I will not click it ever again.
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09-04-2013, 04:18 AMKoreos
Agreed. Right now joining a party in progress is a huge risk. I think that incentives should be given so people will use that option more often. Maybe have the option on by default, or remove it altogether. WoW's dungeon finder gives bags of goodies for people who queue at random. FFXIV could give EXP bonuses, foodstuffs, extra personal chests or something. I bet a lot more people would start queueing for them this way.
Some sort of kicking system should be implemented too. People who AFK in the middle of a dungeon are horrible. -
09-04-2013, 04:34 AMMoochan
If there was a piece of loot I was guaranteed to get, I might consider clicking this box. But I still probably wouldn't. Sometimes loot just isn't worth a fail party. In WoW you can carry a bad tank through a 5 man dungeon. You can't do that in this game. People who are bad at games are always a 100% wipe fest in this game. It is brutally punishing for people who can't take what they learned in the easy dungeons and apply it. But it shows you how many people are just plain stupid. I never thought trunning out of a red box would determine someones intelligence, I just assumed all human beings had this ability.
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09-04-2013, 10:46 AMMiska
Although I don't use the Join Party In Progress feature, I fully understand where you are coming from. In my opinion, they should only match up when a full party has been assembled, and to also show how much time is remaining, and also how many bosses are still up. That way, as a tank/healer, for example 10mins remaining, 2 bosses remaining, you will know that you will have to rush beyond your measure in hopes of finishing the 2 bosses or just cancel and take the feature off. I personally won't use the in progress feature, but I 100% understand and agree with your frustration to it. Let us hope that they alter it in a way that benefits everyone, and matches a full party before throwing just 1 person in when 2 are missing.
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09-04-2013, 05:37 PMShibiNotwithstanding that part of a tank's role in a PUG is to tank his party as well as the mobs, generally I find that joining party in progress and rescuing it allows me to show them what what they can achieve with a little leadership, skill and compassion from the tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moochan
But then, I am a pretty nice person generally.