TIRED OF ALL THE PROBLEMS GOING ON?! DO WHAT I AM DOING

As I sat her for the 5th day in a row getting less than 30 minutes of game time, I decided to get up and start cleaning the house, make lunch, play with the dog, and watch some Netlfix. I am a tad upset at all the stinking problems going on but I realize that there was no way for SE to know the incredible amount of fans out there who were waiting to play FFXIV. I'm having the same 9000, 2002, 1017, etc. problems. Yes, I believe any company who has been around since the mid to late 80's should have known their fan base has only grown exponentially over the years and maybe done a survey along with the beta. Everyone needs to chill out and let them get the bugs out of the way for the first week or two and then it'll be smooth sailing. Same thing happened with FFXI and look at how many people play now! Have faith that SE will compensate each and every one of us for our time. They are as loyal to us as we are to them. Any questions? No trolls please.

FFXI - Kairug - Bahamut

I agree. I am also new to SE MMOs. The two things that bother me are knowing the "Queue" system is not functioning correctly, or it is and implemented poorly. Getting kicked from the game while 36th in the queue is annoying. All the while, servers may well be full due to people never logging out as a means to skip the log-in issues. The second part that confuses me is how the game says cant load NA/EU servers. Yet, looking at the status page shows them green and online. How can they be green/online and yet the servers cant be retrieved when trying to select your character and log-in? Just my thoughts. To end on a positive note, this is a great game. i look forward to playing with my friends when the issues are resolved. :D

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Originally Posted by Waggabond

Yes, we have higher standards for quality over here.
And regarding your dog vomit of a clueless post, some people have been waiting years to play this game, it's to be expected that people get stressed out for not being able to do so.

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Ahh, clueless post you say? I ALSO have been waiting to play this game and have had it ordered on Amazon since March 2010. It's not about having higher standards of quality, it's about being patient. Unless you can give me more information than I know about how servers work (seeing as that's my job). We never said it's not expected for people to get stressed but everyone needs to understand that with EVERY MMO, there will be problems at first. People shouldn't get so pissed at a game. Wait it out, go play Black Ops II or Minecraft. Go to Denny's or Ihop. idc, lol.

My reply was to the other guy, sonnie.
Please re-read your own thread and mind the details.

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Originally Posted by Waggabond

My reply was to the other guy, sonnie.
Please re-read your own thread and mind the details.

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And my reply was to you "sonnie". Your gonna make us Americans look worse for impatience, ignorance, and disrespect.

Playing Final fantasy IX and having a blast

Almost certain you can play any other game and come back to this when it works for you or do anything else in the world.

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Originally Posted by Epictoe

Playing Final fantasy IX and having a blast

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I miss the days

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Originally Posted by Waggabond

I'm not running for a popularity contest. What you or others think of me or any groups I belong to is irrelevant to me.
I appreciate your attempt to cheer people up when they're being screwed, but at the end of the day, the entirety of your OP is bullshit.

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If all you want to do is bring people down that's on you, but I'm just saying wait it out and find something to do in the mean time. Don't waste time getting upset, we will be compensated as they already stated. Stop trolling buddy.

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Originally Posted by Kairug

If all you want to do is bring people down that's on you, but I'm just saying wait it out and find something to do in the mean time. Don't waste time getting upset, we will be compensated as they already stated. Stop trolling buddy.

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No, don't get me wrong.
All I want to do is play.

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Originally Posted by Waggabond

No, don't get me wrong.
All I want to do is play.

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Then play, and if you can't, go do something else instead of pressing start for four hours.

Yea, next time i log in im not going to log out, getting tired of this sh*t. if you cant beat the system abuse it.

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Originally Posted by 3Dsky

Yea, next time i log in im not going to log out, getting tired of this sh*t. if you cant beat the system abuse it.

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Same here, I tried that this morning and got booted while I was going into my room; ; I'll start another thread for that one though lol.

I must be thinking different than some of you. I never played previous versions of Final Fantasy, but played this in the Beta, at which time it actually WORKED! Complete with queues! Imagine. I have played video games and MMOs for years, including many launches, but have not dealt with a company that makes things worse from Beta to release. Nor with one which fired a bunch of people in North American offices shortly before launch. It to me is summing up the shortsightedness of Square Enix if they start cutting staff BEFORE release. A company that hasn't figured in the fact that people need to be able to log in to keep them in money is going to be in bad shape, and one that hasn't figured out about AFK timers mustn't have had developers who actually played other games before, and learned from the experience. When this game is accessible it is enjoyable. The frustration of the inaccessibility on my only 4 day weekend this year is hard to reimburse. Ok, yes, there will be other weekends, all of which are spoken for. And by the time I actually am allowed to play my friends will have hit end game (many are 50 already), and I am shut out of playing with them. I do not want to play on Japanese servers, which are the only ones the company has made accessible. I don't think I have known error numbers (read 1017, 2002, etc.) with any other game I have played. At the very least they should assign more than one very overworked flunky to work on the log in servers, the queue process (which, amazingly, works on Japanese servers), and the growing dissatisfaction. Although it's well and good for us to gripe on the forums, I find it amazing that when in game submitting a complaint, no one answers -- they redirect to forums (which they don't respond to). Worst launch and absolutely WORST customer service I have ever seen in a game. Anyone considering buying it should reconsider.

I just have to say that even though I admire your optimism during this frustrating period, I don't really agree. For one they did have a way of knowing how many people would be playing at launch. 1. All the players participating in the betas 2. All the good reviews they were getting from said players 3. All the pre-orders they recieved before launching. In my opinion yes it is somewhat understandable that there are issues at launch, however the frustration of players is spawning out of the way SE is handling the issue. First of all it almost seems like they aren't taking it seriously. I mean they have shut down the servers to character creation so now hundreds of people that payed money for the game can't even play with one toon, and then they come out and say "Oh we are sorry for what is happening,so in order to make you all happy we are 'considering' extending the free trial period by '7 days'".... cont...

Really!? Most of us have only had an opportunity to play for maybe 5 hours in total since early access, and then you have players that haven't played at all. We don't want your bull apologies SE I want you to fix the issue and actually make us fans actually feel like you care about us when you address an issue this big. Because despite what some of you may think, this is a BIG issue. Most of us feel like we are getting screwed because we forked over money to play and haven't gotten that opportunity at all.

ha ha! This post is basically trying to tell people:

"You are wrong for getting upset that you can not attain the service that you have already paid for."

So you are waiting for the bus... you wait a long time... like 2 hours. There may be some alternatives to get you to your destination but you REALLY wanna take this bus specifically. The bus finally gets here, the door opens and you go inside and put your money into the machine. AFTER you paid, the bus driver tells you "Thanks, but you have to wait before you can ride on this bus."

Naturally, you're a bit upset. Suddenly, all the people that were already on the bus riding tell you "Hey, you need to chill out. Driving a bus is not easy and you just need to be patient." Some of the other people that were waiting outside with you agree with these people and some are just as upset as you.

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Originally Posted by X1PHANTOM1X

Really!? Most of us have only had an opportunity to play for maybe 5 hours in total since early access, and then you have players that haven't played at all. We don't want your bull apologies SE I want you to fix the issue and actually make us fans actually feel like you care about us when you address an issue this big. Because despite what some of you may think, this is a BIG issue. Most of us feel like we are getting screwed because we forked over money to play and haven't gotten that opportunity at all.

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I understand your and everyone else's frustration, but coming from someone who has had to deal with servers and such, it's very complicated and all you CAN say is "sorry for the service." If you were in SE's shoes, would you spend more time apologizing to customers by writing long apologies to people, (who btw don't care and just want to play) or work tirelessly to get equipment working. I'm not fully 100% sticking up for them btw. -cont.-

They stated the numbers from Beta were much less than who are playing now. Most of the beta was closed to public and only open for those who applied and were lucky enough to get picked until the final phase which opened to all. The pre-order sales don't actually indicate how many people are playing. I just picked up a copy for PS3 while my PC version is coming in the mail.

I feel like I'm rambling but yeah. It all comes down to being patient. We can /cry and /anger all we want but it will be fixed when it's fixed. I was pissed this morning, seeing as I've waited for over 3 years to play, but I got off for a bit and played with my dog and made dinner for my wife and I and said I'll come back to it. /cheer^^

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Originally Posted by Zaggy101

Yeah, I am getting tired of all the cry baby's, but that seems typical American, no offense or anything but yeah, I've been able to play fine since official launch, guess I am lucky, but there's more to life than a game, plus its a long weekend for most enjoy it with friends and go out, or play another game, if you have a PC you have no excuse to play another game :-P or if you have a PS3 play some call of duty or something :-) ... they should start a cry baby thread lol

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Yeah, cuz all Americans are what your media makes us out to be, and you my friend are a sheep to believe in stereotypes like that. When your country leads your lambs to slaughter, you will be among them. IGNORANT!

I've been trying to get on my legacy server all day today and only once saw a que, which dropped to a world is full message.
I can understand why everyone who is unable to connect is so frustrated. I'm also quite frustrated. What I don't understand is how they failed to calculate the influx of players. I purchased 1.0 back when it was released, and I suffered as much as many other players did back then too. I had faith and hope then that they would fix their mistake, and provide something of value to me to make right what was wrong.

Not having to buy ARR was the right decision to make for legacy players. I felt like some value was given to my relationship with SE. Giving me 2 weeks to play without subscribing was another nice gesture, granted I felt it was a little cheap considering the problems the legacy people faced back in 2010. I'd say overall, they have done a very nice job trying to make right their mistakes.

Yet, here we are. Almost come full circle. At another roadblock. I saw that they are "considering" extending the free period for another week after this wednesdays update, which should be a no brainer.

The bottom line here though is a cliche motto that we all have heard.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

These constant problems will not be forgotten. Fans aren't stupid, our money is important to us, and so is our time. We respect those who respect us, and we put hours into our entertainment because we put hours into our jobs. When we start to feel taken advantage of, we will find someone else to follow.

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Originally Posted by Rainydays

ha ha! This post is basically trying to tell people:

Naturally, you're a bit upset. Suddenly, all the people that were already on the bus riding tell you "Hey, you need to chill out. Driving a bus is not easy and you just need to be patient." Some of the other people that were waiting outside with you agree with these people and some are just as upset as you.

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What?!!! that made me /laugh! How does someone's bus driving ability affect who comes on a bus? Be realistic. If you said the bus was full then that is another story. Quit taking this post as a, "I fully support SE and how they are dealing with this situation." I am simply saying, "If the bus is full, and a bigger one is on the way, your going to have to wait." so why not do something else and not get so angry. /cheer

I've been around the block a long time and I am willing to support a game that really pleases me. This game has pleased me, when I can play. But with how its currently been running, its too inconsistent. I dont ever know when I"ll get on to my legacy character, and I never know how long it will take to finally get a World Que. I dont care if the que would show 150,000 - if I saw a que every time I tried to log in, I would be more reassured.

I suppose at the end of the day, we have an emotional attachment as fans to the game because we invested emotional or physical pain involved in earning the money or time off to play the game, and we are being kicked in the crotch for our trouble. It's disheartening, its frustrating, its upsetting.

Yes, we could go walk our dogs(if we had them) or go for a picnic(by ourselves) or even go to ihop(and sit alone) but in our melancholy states, we would only be thinking of how frustrated we are that we can't enjoy our time in the manor we want.

Thats my take on it, anyway. I'm simply disheartened by this experience and melancholy because I simply wanted to enjoy my long weekend in solitude to Eorzea and my magics.

Cheers,
Skrem

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Originally Posted by Skrem

Yes, we could go walk our dogs(if we had them) or go for a picnic(by ourselves) or even go to ihop(and sit alone) but in our melancholy states, we would only be thinking of how frustrated we are that we can't enjoy our time in the manor we want.

Thats my take on it, anyway. I'm simply disheartened by this experience and melancholy because I simply wanted to enjoy my long weekend in solitude to Eorzea and my magics.

Cheers,
Skrem

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Agreed, but you really have no one to do stuff with? ; ;

This has got to be the dumbest thread I have seen posted in a long, long time.

1.) I play on a server that has been closed to character creation since OB, that means the playerbase on said server is the playerbase that already existed and still the servers can't handle those players. What kind of short-sighted company remodels their business into one that can't even support their CURRENT CUSTOMER BASE and then expects to draw in new customers?

2.) Of course there were fewer players during beta, customers don't want a half finished product! This is not a new business concept, people want to use a product that's fully functional and so many wait until the product is up to par.

3.) Contrary to popular belief, telling people who are frustrated to calm down does not calm anyone down and it doesn't solve anything either. The people complaining are not the problem they are a symptom of the problem and until the underlying problem is fixed the symptoms will continue.

In conclusion : Get off your high horse and stop trying to shame people into not talking about something they have every right to be angry with.

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Originally Posted by Kairug

Agreed, but you really have no one to do stuff with? ; ;

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That's right. It's a complicated story that is best kept off the forums.

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Originally Posted by Kairug

What?!!! that made me /laugh! How does someone's bus driving ability affect who comes on a bus? Be realistic. If you said the bus was full then that is another story. Quit taking this post as a, "I fully support SE and how they are dealing with this situation." I am simply saying, "If the bus is full, and a bigger one is on the way, your going to have to wait." so why not do something else and not get so angry. /cheer

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Uh, the reason you have to wait is because the bus is full. Sorry, I thought that would be a given. I see you can't read between the lines. I'll be sure to write in every single detail just for you, sweety. Someone's bus driving ability is referring to someone's skill at dealing with servers (which you also talked about). Again, I thought that was a given.. I guess not.

PS- Good job leaving out the key parts of my post when you quoted me. /cheer

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Originally Posted by Illuvetar

Yeah..........I'd flame at you for an obviously piece of crap post but it's hard to take you seriously when you're a midget with a cone on your head.

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Perhaps I am going crazy repeatedly trying to log in but this post made me laugh for than I think it should have. Bravo.

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Originally Posted by Zaggy101

but that seems typical American

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For NA/EU it's simply what they want and that they want it now.

I wouldn't call it "typical American" per-say, more like western royalty-ism. Remember America rolled over their traits from the UK before their Independence but we love our freedom yet enjoy slave-running others to our bidding, effortless and economical. (I personally think it's ridiculous mind-speak but it's the truth)

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Originally Posted by Rainydays

Uh, the reason you have to wait is because the bus is full. Sorry, I thought that would be a given. I see you can't read between the lines. I'll be sure to write in every single detail just for you, sweety. Someone's bus driving ability is referring to someone's skill at dealing with servers (which you also talked about). Again, I thought that was a given.. I guess not.

PS- Good job leaving out the key parts of my post when you quoted me. /cheer

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If you feel like being toxic go ahead, you just didn't word yourself right. And there is a limit to how many characters to post. I see we have a lot of players either they are young and immature or older and just don't care to be patient. You being one, Just keep telling yourself that the more you complain the faster things will get fixed. I on the other hand will complain AFTER things are fixed and I am not compensated for time lost sweetie. Grow up you aren't cute lol.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

This has got to be the dumbest thread I have seen posted in a long, long time.

In conclusion : Get off your high horse and stop trying to shame people into not talking about something they have every right to be angry with.

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Im not shaming anyone, I just opened a forum to discuss my opinion.

In conclusion if you have a problem, give your post and get off. You kill the true meaning of my original posting.

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Originally Posted by Illuvetar

Yeah..........I'd flame at you for an obviously piece of crap post but it's hard to take you seriously when you're a midget with a cone on your head.

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LOLOOOOL! I'm sorry but I love you right now. XDDDD;
I literally laughed so damn loud my mom was like wtf lol. Oh God. Thank you.

Everybody is turning their anger to each other because of the Login problems LOL

I actually forgot about the release date till gamestop called me up Friday afternoon telling me someone wanted to buy my collectors edition and if I was going to go pick it up. Now im just telling myself the game isn't out till this Wednesday so I don't waste me sat and sun off from work trying to log on.

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Originally Posted by Kairug

Take what you want from it. You act big and bad on a forum. WE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING. Because we have to wait a little longer for something, we lose our minds. Your are taking my good thoughts and twisting them. Grow up child, you prove my point of being childish and having nothing better to do than to insult people.

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You know why we aren't entitled to anything? Because posts like this enforce the mindset that companies that offer MMORPG service can take money and not deliver the service. This happens at EVERY mmorpg launch. EVERY SINGLE ONE. People like you are why it keeps happening.

Wow yet another American stereotype/complaint made in an off handed manor. So many of these going around in the forums.

/sigh

<Insert sarcastic America is better then all yous guys joke>

I don't think you can truthfully say that as there are likely mmorpgs that have been released with which you don't even know about.

I was a sub of EQ2 the day it was released in 2004 and not once had server congestion issues. I thought it was a beautifully launched title. It's a curious thing why so many other companies have problems with it. Be Prepared is a rule I believe in thoroughly - should it not also make sense for the company to be prepared? Why cut the budget short on server capacity when the overall intent of an mmorpg is to appeal to players, draw them in, get them to spend money, so you can earn money.... it just seems like by having limited space on a server you also are limiting your revenue. From a business perspective, something like that should have been included in startup capital as a loss leader, and if necessary, shrink the servers down afterwards. It's always easier to stay ahead than to catch up.

again, my sentiments

Cheers,
Skrem

I'm getting pissed.
Never have I never could play for a day, or even get in damn ques. Now I'm rolling in every error known to man.
I need my fix to chill me out I have short patience bro. X: