The Aurum Vale Mechanics and Pets For Future Content

In Aurum Vale the first boss encounter totally screws with my pet. There is no way for me to help or save it other than wasting 500 mana on a resummon and it will still get eaten again by the DoT.

While it isn't a big deal here I just want to make sure so in future content this won't happen or else certain fight mechanics will be impossible for Scholar to deal with as our fairy is a significant portion of our contribution to the party. I don't mind my pet taking damage as long as I can make efforts to counter act it.

Just did it on Summoner as well.

It's a huge shock that after all these levels of instant kill/massive damage aoe abilities having much decreased damage on summons, now my summons in Vale are dying in seconds. Can't even use Ifrit egi because it's very easy for him to die to puddles, which do full damage to him.

I think a big problem as well is how weak Sustain is. It should restore a lot more health quicker and clear all conditions on the pet.

I'm gonna have to get THM from 16 to 26 in order to have swiftcast for resummons.

Vale is not good at all for pet classes. The summoner can't kill the eggs quick enough, and the pet dies easily in there.

Also the fairies and egi have silly aggro tables. My fairy is constantly drawing aggro on her own. Controlling the fairies so they don't waste their skills is also quite more difficult than doing so with the egi.

Completely agree here. My faerie died almost immediately and I can't seem to keep up with the damage without her. :/

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Originally Posted by stally

In Aurum Vale the first boss encounter totally screws with my pet. There is no way for me to help or save it other than wasting 500 mana on a resummon and it will still get eaten again by the DoT.

While it isn't a big deal here I just want to make sure so in future content this won't happen or else certain fight mechanics will be impossible for Scholar to deal with as our fairy is a significant portion of our contribution to the party. I don't mind my pet taking damage as long as I can make efforts to counter act it.

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I know nothing about summoner in ARR, so I just ask, do they have any ability to reduce/nulify taken damage. Maybe all times element wheel would work,
like using a pet strong to a monster used elements. Again I know notihng about summoner, but it is always good to ask.

There is now way to keep your pet alive on the first boss in there. We tried everything. We had me a SCH and a SUM in there and the first boss is a huge struggle once both of our pets die. The fight goes on for a really long time if one of your DPS is severely gimped when their pet dies and it is nearly impossible to solo heal when my fairy dies as the fight lasts so long with a SUM their. I will not queue for or do this dungeon anymore until this is fixed, it was our first time in there and we made it to the last boss which has a similar mechanic. This needs to be fixed to where when I eat the fruit my fairy does also removing the debuff.

Did Aurum Vale 3 times as a smn, and wiped the party several times. All three times also had a scholar so we were gimped on healing as well. Eating the fruit does not cure your damn pet so you are forced to resummon (even if it did, sustain sucks), buf in the meantime the sch is having trouble healing so you must back up heal with no time for resummon. Iffit/titan are useless because of quick death from puddles.

This dungeon put me in a funk, concidering future conent and the dungeons after this im petrified and annoyed. With the third party we managed to reach the final boss. Same issue and not only that, the add seeds pop in which you have only seconds to get rid of them >.>

As having virtually 0 aoe power this sucks for smn. If you choose to command ur pet to attack the seeds, by the time it does all the adds would have spawned. I tried using bane but this required timing, it also leads to death because using bane to transfer the dots to seeds from boss means that you have to neglect the third stack of poison. >.<

This truly makes me regret having a main smn, pets tend to be retarded and a hassle to micromanage. Having to cut your rotation to command a pet not to be retarded is unacceptable.

Sure swiftcast is a solution, but summoning alone costs 500mp and one shouldnt need to do that several times in a fight. What a let down smn/arc/sch has been and it makes me sad...

Forgive the bad spelling, was ranting at high speeds

Would a bards mages ballad help with the resummoning cost of 500mp? It does sound imbalanced, regardless.

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Originally Posted by Alkalord

Would a bards mages ballad help with the resummoning cost of 500mp? It does sound imbalanced, regardless.

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The point isnt really the cost it is more the time to re summon and the fact that the mechanic seems broken. I cannot believe for a minute the buff is intended to kill our pets and not be removed when we use the fruit.

To Crescent_Dusk
Spider eggs are the easiest as SMN. When you see the boss going to laid egg, make sure Bio II, Misama and Bio are on boss. Then use Bane when boss laid eggs. I then go in and do the Misama II (but I don't think you need it, 3 dots are enough). All eggs are destroyed before they hatch. I didn't get a chance to test Rouse to see if it removes disease from boss on pets. Will test next time to check.

Would it be impossible to have Status-Cleansing effects cleanse effects from our pets as well? Obviously if a SMN/CNJ does what's necessary to cleanse themselves, they're displaying the same skill that any other damage dealer or healer has to display to clear the fight. Being forced to micro our pets with the currently clunky control system ontop of that is somewhat excessive. Scholars already have to focus harder on healing and heal more frequently than their WHM counterparts, and SMN players have all the dots in the world to keep up and watch. It seems a simple enough task to provide some status-cleansing link between Player and Pet (or simply making the pets immune to this particular debuff.)

While the pet may die... it's not impossible.

I cleared it with a scholar as our healer... You guys will probably just need more coordination and teamwork.

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Originally Posted by SolRising

While the pet may die... it's not impossible.

I cleared it with a scholar as our healer... You guys will probably just need more coordination and teamwork.

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Your right, they should not fix a broken mechanic. Everyone that has a SUM/SCH should just learn to do it gimped and broken. I completed that fight as a SCH with a SUM in the group so there was basically only 1 DPS, that must mean I am even more pro than you... lol. I want to hear from someone that did it with a SCH and 2 SUM.

I am not sure if people are just retarded or trolling. If my pet were to die because of a mechanic I failed at, that is fine, this is a mechanic that cannot be cleaned from our pets, I highly doubt it is working as intended. The SE team was sitting there creating this and was like, we really need to gimp SCH and SUM in here, it will make it a lot more fun.

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Originally Posted by Ricon

While everyone cries about this 1 dungeon that Smn/Sch has some trouble in I'm gonna keep crushing war, brd, drg, whm. Maybe this is meant to humble pet jobs a little since most of the early game gets destroyed by pets. You are asking for what seems to be the only hard thing you've had to deal with to be nerfed. Why not I mean you get 2 jobs to 50 for 1 class lets make the rest of the game better for you too. Want free darklight?

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Lol and another tard! Who is everyone? There is 2 pages to this of SUM/SCH discussing a broken mechanic.

You guys are all from the same server.

While everyone cries about this 1 dungeon that Smn/Sch has some trouble in I'm gonna keep crushing war, brd, drg, whm. Maybe this is meant to humble pet jobs a little since most of the early game gets destroyed by pets. You are asking for what seems to be the only hard thing you've had to deal with to be nerfed. Why not I mean you get 2 jobs to 50 for 1 class lets make the rest of the game better for you too. Want free darklight?

For SCH It wasn't that bad, only had to resummon once, sure it was annoying but it wasn't BAD. Wait till the moving wall when you have to keep manually commanding your pet to move side center side center, heel, over and over while constantly healing, any small mistake and the party will easily wipe.

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Originally Posted by Ruprect

I am not sure if people are just retarded or trolling.


Lol and another tard! Who is everyone? There is 2 pages to this of SUM/SCH discussing a broken mechanic.

You guys are all from the same server.

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Where do you get the idea it's broken? If it has been done by numerous other anarchist classes, where does that make this broken? just because it's made more difficult does not make it broken. There are many dungeons in this game that have better class set ups than others, do you see them rearranging the whole dungeon or boss fight to get around that? No.

Don't come out and attack me just because you are unsatisfied because your pet dies easier so that it makes that particular boss fight harder than other party set ups. Every dungeon/boss has better set ups than others to make it more simple, it does not mean it's broken. Next time before you start talking crap out your mouth you should probably learn to either work around the problem or opt to play another class to support your party set up. This game was designed for multiple classes.

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Originally Posted by SolRising

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You really think that they added a mechanic in game to only affect the only 2 pet classes in the game. lol I never said it was impossible, I was merely stating that it does not seem right and you came in with it is doable so it must be working as intended.