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ATTENTION!!!! LEGIT INFO ABOUT SERVERS FULL AND 1017 PLEASE READ!!
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To bad it about JAPAN servers, not the NA servers
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"However, the second half of the announcement regarding increasing the capacity of our data centers was meant to also encompass North American and European data center Worlds and not just be limited to Japan data center Worlds."
You didnt read the second one aren't you ?
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Originally Posted by
Silvdragon
To bad it about JAPAN servers, not the NA servers
Did you even read it?
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Originally Posted by
Silvdragon
To bad it about JAPAN servers, not the NA servers
seriously, mate.
Read it again, slowly.
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a week though, man i hope room opens up soon on the server i want.
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...98#post1094798
early next week... no bloody way. If so bye bye FF 14.. Just the sad truth
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Originally Posted by
yuji09
seriously, mate.
Read it again, slowly.
i read it slowly too,
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However, the second half of the announcement regarding increasing the capacity of our data centers was meant to also encompass North American and European data center Worlds and not just be limited to Japan data center Worlds.
We deeply apologize for causing concern amongst the North American and European community due to our lack of clarity. Capacity will be increased for data centers in all regions.
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I'm just glad we have clear resolution as well as communication about the matter now. I'm willing to stick it out. I'm here for the long haul. This game is already awesome. I look forward to actually playing it again soon. 'Course if the reaper catches me before that, guess I will count it a regret.
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Originally Posted by
Xombie
So you can't wait 6-7 days for them to fix an issue that they didn't anticipate (having a lot more players than expected?).
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Originally Posted by
Darkfyre84
So you can't wait 6-7 days for them to fix an issue that they didn't anticipate (having a lot more players than expected?).
Nope not when I went through hell of a launch the last time this game was released..... It should never take a week to get more servers... GW2 went from 16 to 25 in 1 evening on launch day
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I think we can mostly agree that they made an amazing game from what we have seen.. but you definitely don't use a "Doggie door" as an entrance to Buckingham Palace or the Taj Mahal ! Doesn't matter how incredibly beautiful it is on the inside, if the entrance is too tiny for folks to enter to actually SEE it.. then what's the point? And they only made the door smaller as time passed.. :confused:
It's about time SE woke up .. too bad they didn't realize their folly a week ago. I have my 30 days free trial.. and am definitely going to wait and see if things improve before throwing more money at these guys.
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Originally Posted by
Xombie
Nope not when I went through hell of a launch the last time this game was released..... It should never take a week to get more servers... GW2 went from 16 to 25 in 1 evening on launch day
im expecting the login restrictions to be lifted after tonight's emergency maintenance, so the servers can actually fill to capacity, and give majority of players a week of play before the increase the capacity on the servers for NA next week. I believe that JP servers actually have it slightly worse with most people seeing long que times because the servers are actually full unlike N/A servers.
Usually N/A data centers have larger server capacities than over seas servers as iv seen with how nintendo runs their n/a servers compared to their jp servers. Something like 10:1. Probably the reason why we can get away with a a smaller number of servers for a larger population of people.
However even if we increase the number of servers or even the capacity of the servers, as long as the login restrictions are in place, everyone will still receive 1017 errors.
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I've been upset among everyone else and from what I've noticed square had no idea it would get this many players.. open beta 4 they got a taste however not everyone trying to get on now was in that. I've seen numbers fly around but supposedly more than 150k where in beta 4 so I'd guess 200k...we had 3102,90k,1017, and bad que system then so obviously they didn't even expect 200k at once during beta. A week goes by and they make some upgrades...I've seen that early access had at least 800k and launch over a million easily.... the leaps in users in a small time frame like that are insane...all trying to log in at once
and yes they could have gone off preorders but with new servers, graphics..etc they didn't know how much stress the server could take and beta 4 wasn't enough....
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BUMP BUMP BUMP I KNEW THEY LOVED US!!!
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Their incompetence is staggering. How in the world could they've not been better prepared. V 1.0 was an utter disaster and one would think that they would have a Plan B ready if something went wrong on thr re-launch, but no apparantly not...GoW 2 and TSW surtainly had more servers up within 24 hours. I hope people get fired cause of this, I want my pound of flesh.
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Originally Posted by
mycosynth
I've been upset among everyone else and from what I've noticed square had no idea it would get this many players.. open beta 4 they got a taste however not everyone trying to get on now was in that. I've seen numbers fly around but supposedly more than 150k where in beta 4 so I'd guess 200k...we had 3102,90k,1017, and bad que system then so obviously they didn't even expect 200k at once during beta. A week goes by and they make some upgrades...I've seen that early access had at least 800k and launch over a million easily.... the leaps in users in a small time frame like that are insane...all trying to log in at once
You have every right to be upset, its not like this is a time where you can say "oh thats alright!" and give them a pat on the back and a A for effort. I mean yeah good job SE on the game, but following through on delivery is no easy task. I'm upset that this is happening like everyone else, but i'm cheering for SE to make a good
and quicker decision on implementing their solutions. I pray they find the strength to carry through their work that is ahead of them and not loose sight on doing us justice because some people are actually hoping that they fail and the dev team's hard works goes to shambles because they couldn't play a game at launch.
I understand the frustrations, but IMO there is a limit to how much hate and rage you can express to the point where it does nobody any good including the victim.
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Originally Posted by
WingsofWar
You have every right to be upset, its not like this is a time where you can say "oh thats alright!" and give them a pat on the back and a A for effort. I mean yeah good job SE on the game, but following through on delivery is no easy task. I'm upset that this is happening like everyone else, but i'm cheering for SE to make a good
and quicker decision on implementing their solutions. I pray they find the strength to carry through their work that is ahead of them and not loose sight on doing us justice because some people are actually hoping that they fail and the dev team's hard works goes to shambles because they couldn't play a game at launch.
I understand the frustrations, but IMO there is a limit to how much hate and rage you can express to the point where it does nobody any good including the victim.
Exactly... imperfect people make imperfect products and due to that shit happens... Unfortunately for them a lot of shit happened however we all can sleep well knowing they actually are fixing it
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Originally Posted by
Mrzappa
If they give us that week back im ok, but i payed for a game witch 30 days free play time, not 23 days.
I'm sure they'll compensate
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More cheese to string us along. They also said that they fixed the issues from Beta 4 so the game would be playable by all in EA and we know that wasn't true. I'm not believing anything until I see it and I probably won't be around to see it if something isn't done within the next day or two to offer some relief to this horrid launch.
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Wings of war, you said " I believe that JP servers actually have it slightly worse with most people seeing long que times because the servers are actually full unlike N/A servers."
Not true, since early access, I have Balmung(legacy) constantly full, have not gotten to play my beta character in it. Created another character in another NA server, no go, its full, try again later.
Created one in Ultima JP, in right away, not a single issue.
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how is this legit that they are gonna take a week to fix something that should have been done in the first place lol. Love these fan idiots
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Originally Posted by
bladeyama
how is this legit that they are gonna take a week to fix something that should have been done in the first place lol. Love these fan idiots
so you're not a fan but decided to buy the game anyway? who's the idiot now...
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Originally Posted by
bladeyama
how is this legit that they are gonna take a week to fix something that should have been done in the first place lol. Love these fan idiots
they had a bad 1.0 launch, they decided to listen to the fans and remake the game entirely and we supported them, they underestimated the amount of people that would be returning to the game. the game does better then expected and they need to increase server capacities. so we are fan idiots?
sure dude
sorry yoshi, i know you spent 2 1/2 years making this game but some of these guys cant wait a week, your games gonna sink. sorry bro, you tried.
love these impatient idiots
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Originally Posted by
IveraIvalice
love these impatient idiots
And some of you act like they got all the time in the world to fix their game. The window for success for an MMO is very small and they have very little time to fix this or the reputation this game will get will be unrepairable. The launch sets the standards now a days and it's sink or swim and this game is going down like the Titanic atm.
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Originally Posted by
IveraIvalice
they had a bad 1.0 launch, they decided to listen to the fans and remake the game entirely and we supported them, they underestimated the amount of people that would be returning to the game. the game does better then expected and they need to increase server capacities. so we are fan idiots?
sure dude
sorry yoshi, i know you spent 2 1/2 years making this game but some of these guys cant wait a week, your games gonna sink. sorry bro, you tried.
love these impatient idiots
I'm sorry i'm a fan and I still think It's stupid. ANY COMPANY nowadays can follow their own sells better than SE. Aion had a Terrible launch and was years better than FFXIV. Hey i'm a Fan too, but i'm not blind, and I actually PLAY MMORPG's not only 1 IP.
I'm not gonna forgive them because they spend 2 and 1/2 year trying not to go broke from one (or two, or three...) bad product. It's their decision, it was their mess to begin with.
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Well, best solution until next week; A controller with a turbo button.
Seriously, it works!
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Originally Posted by
IveraIvalice
they had a bad 1.0 launch, they decided to listen to the fans and remake the game entirely and we supported them, they underestimated the amount of people that would be returning to the game. the game does better then expected and they need to increase server capacities. so we are fan idiots?
sure dude
sorry yoshi, i know you spent 2 1/2 years making this game but some of these guys cant wait a week, your games gonna sink. sorry bro, you tried.
love these impatient idiots
It doesn't matter if he took those 2 and a half years and make the first Virtual Reality MMO.... If players can't get in to see and experience it.. then what's the use? They have been touting this launch since they announced the project.. massive ad campaigns at every Con on the planet ect.. they had to suspect the popularity from feedback.
If you paid 100$ to go to an amusement park but was stopped at the gate and told to wait.. and wait and try again later.. and wait some more .. and try again later.. Oh.. we are going to limit the number of visitors to even less numbers.. please keep trying.. Oh next week we will let more folks in.. but for now.. wait.. then you would probably be as upset as the folks you are "Trolling".
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Patchy
Wings of war, you said " I believe that JP servers actually have it slightly worse with most people seeing long que times because the servers are actually full unlike N/A servers."
Not true, since early access, I have Balmung(legacy) constantly full, have not gotten to play my beta character in it. Created another character in another NA server, no go, its full, try again later.
Created one in Ultima JP, in right away, not a single issue.
From what i gathered the JP servers got full to the point of 9000 error, meaning the entire server crashed forcing the entire player population to log out. NA/EU 1017 "Full servers" are just defaulted messages not pertaining to your server actually being full. Do you really believe the population of legacy player to legacy servers are actually maxing out the server capacity? no...the login restrictions are making you believe the server is full, when your client hits the restriction your not even qued in giving you the a default alert 1017.
The login restriction placed on JP servers are the same as NA however the population of actual players trying to access the server at any given time is also smaller because of how small the player base is compared to NA. You will likely never see the 1017 login restriction in JP servers unless its peak hours on a popular server, then its N/A servers all over again.
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i get that its annoying too not be able to log in. i just think that with the amount of effort they put into making this, people are being alittle impatient. im not saying that your fustration isnt justified, i just understand that they are people too, not machines, they're fixing the problem and i can wait because i like the game and im not just gonna stop playing and tell everyone go forget this game because it will take them a week to increase the server capacity. im not gonna die just because i have to take it easy for a week. they dont deserve to have the game passed off so quick because of unforseen circumstances. and we dont deserve to be called fan idiots because we can look past the stupid short term issue and see a great game waiting to play when this thing blows over in a week.
but i know people will always jump the gun and rage and quit and damn everyone whose not with them so whatever.
people do what their gonna do and ill do the same
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I just hope whatever they're doing helps out the people that are ALREADY on a server. It's bad enough during prime time that if my game crashes for whatever reason I simply won't get back on until people start going to bed.
I realize they need to be able to provide for those that can't create characters now, but something like a queue just to get into the login servers needs to happen for existing servers.
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a week added on to our 30 days free would obviously make allot of poeple happy and 10x more patient then they are now
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Originally Posted by
IveraIvalice
they had a bad 1.0 launch, they decided to listen to the fans and remake the game entirely and we supported them, they underestimated the amount of people that would be returning to the game. the game does better then expected and they need to increase server capacities. so we are fan idiots?
sure dude
sorry yoshi, i know you spent 2 1/2 years making this game but some of these guys cant wait a week, your games gonna sink. sorry bro, you tried.
love these impatient idiots
Wow it took them 2 1/2 years and fuckup the launch good going lol
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Originally Posted by
IveraIvalice
i get that its annoying too not be able to log in. i just think that with the amount of effort they put into making this, people are being alittle impatient. im not saying that your fustration isnt justified, i just understand that they are people too, not machines, they're fixing the problem and i can wait because i like the game and im not just gonna stop playing and tell everyone go forget this game because it will take them a week to increase the server capacity. im not gonna die just because i have to take it easy for a week. they dont deserve to have the game passed off so quick because of unforseen circumstances. and we dont deserve to be called fan idiots because we can look past the stupid short term issue and see a great game waiting to play when this thing blows over in a week.
but i know people will always jump the gun and rage and quit and damn everyone whose not with them so whatever.
people do what their gonna do and ill do the same
Im saying for this many problems they really didn't put that much effort
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Originally Posted by
bladeyama
how is this legit that they are gonna take a week to fix something that should have been done in the first place lol. Love these fan idiots
I was implying the info is legit...to draw attention
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Get over your self entitled "self".
Read the license agreements etc. Just because your "paying" to use this service dose not mean you have the right to demand anything from it.
You do not own or part own anything you are paying for other than a useless game DVD sold to you in a box(if that). You are just paying for the opotunity / chance to play this game as and when SE deem it so.
If you cant understand that then maybe you should not be playing this type of game at all.....
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however in any case All Good MMO games F2P and P2P Have bad starts. I am almost sure that FFXI had these issues and I am willing to bet that WoW Had these Issues Hell even NW Had these Issues and I am sure the new ESO Will have these issues.
Sure we paid for the game however these guys all gave us Free time to start and I am seeing a lot got a Full Month where as some got 2 weeks free. All it takes though folks is a little Patience and some time. I am sure when this game gets everything done they need done this game will be roaring. Sure they shoulda done more voice acting for the quest givers but hey beggers cant be choosers LoL....Hope Everyone has a Fun Day today when the servers come back online :)
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From a post I made, in hopes it reaches more:
Apology from Yoshida Naoki, and translation for those needing it.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf.../395029/page/1
Make of it what you will; I have endured the errors and simply enjoy the game it is fleshing out thus far and am in for the long haul. For those literally not able to log in a single time, though at these hours minus the current maintenance, logging in has been easy if that's of any console, then I lament your loss and wish continued temperance if you seek it.
/salute Yoshida-san and staff
*small note here, where it reads, "Do your best!" is when he pauses to regain his composure momentarily.*
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Yes this could "should" be working and completely... I'm like everyone else.. beyond pissed! Beta 4 I stayed up hours upon hours trying to log in... was a 3102 victim during and only played my main 6 hours...
easily access got maybe 12 hours spent the rest spamming log in and now when I get off work in an hour I'll be trying again. This is ridiculous I payed I should get to play whenever. Did they fuck up? Yes! But I'm still here giving info that I find for others like myself who are waiting in hopes for a game. If you don't like it throw in the towel thats less waiting for me. Try getting a refund.(good luck)
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I am not trying to change the subject here but for one I am glad to see something finally from SE about this issue but to fanboys / white knights or what ever these people call themselves or get call please stop using the obvious marketing play Yoshi used at his press conference as a he cares for us. This site should of been his first place to explain what was going on not wiping out the tears world wide to show he care. If he care he would of been communicating with the community the entire time to keep things on the up and up with us the players and fans of FF.
This section shows it is a marketing ploy to make the disgruntle players feels he is doing everything when he could of wrote us without a big show and ment more:
y; This one is going to be hard to for me, first before my message, we have been doing the Early Access the past 3 days, for those playing on NA/EU server we had to place several maintenance which caused loss of precious play time, and since this event is being broadcasted to worldwide let me apologize, I am really sorry, our long journey will be starting here so I am hoping we will be able to recover this over time.
This to me is marketing ploy so please let us players and fans who can't get in relieve frustration here in the forms and if your ingame enjoy it if not please leave the forums for us to rant and take our frustations out here in peace.
and before I am flamed I have been a FF fan since the original NES game which I still own and it works even still has the nice ocean spot glitch that if you hit it crashed the game. But I still congratulate them on finally learning that we need communication to help our minds about the game and a week ain't to bad of a wait but still this should of been delt with during phase 4 not the release stage or pre-release.