AFK timers, where is the queue

With currently restricted server populations to apparently very low levels to avoid server crashes due to high traffic, there should be implemented mandatory AFK timer removal from the server that cannot be turned off until you people get your hardware issues situated. I FINALLY logged in yesterday and I like many many others said to myself, no way am I logging off and going through that torture again. So I was on a good chunk of the day even though I wasn't active for probably half of it. I saw one guy at the Gridania Aetheryte Plaza in the same spot all freaking day long. Implement it, if you're AFK longer than 20 minutes, boot.

Why can I not be put into a queue rather than having to painfully attempt to reconnect manually making multiple clicks and making me have to sit at the PC hoping to get in at every click. The queues have been there in the past, I don't care if I am 1500th in the queue, at least I'm not continually clicking over and over again. Please fix it.

no way... i pay, i should be able to stay on no matter how long i'm afk.

Duty Finder takes 45+ minutes. So what if I afk to make some lunch while waiting? Game gonna kick me? no thanks. people don't think things through.

How about a better solution : Be patient , wait until servers get fixed and stop creating Threads about people being AFK.

When you say you don't care if you are 1500th in the queue and if you go afk while waiting for your turn to get in but when you finally get in while you are still afk and you don't know that. You will see the main menu when you are back wondering if you got kicked out for being afk after you got in.

Bad idea.

We all paid, if you are inactive on the server you are taking up a slot for an active player, if you are waiting for a queue while you make lunch, chances are you are gonna be checking back in at your monitor/tv now and you can jump or something to avoid the kick. Easy enough, some people just don't think things through. It is better for everyone in the short term.

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Originally Posted by Zehira

When you say you don't care if you are 1500th in the queue and if you go afk while waiting for your turn to get in but when you finally get in while you are still afk and you don't know that. You will see the main menu when you are back wondering if you got kicked out for being afk after you got in.

Bad idea.

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I just don't see how people who are eager to get in are going to be away long enough to miss a 1500 queue, plus 20 minutes on top of that to be removed from the world. Its so ridiculous. Half the population is AFK.

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Originally Posted by norrain13

I just don't see how people who are eager to get in are going to be away long enough to miss a 1500 queue, plus 20 minutes on top of that to be removed from the world. Its so ridiculous. Half the population is AFK.

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Honestly, the queue system is bugged, I got in after I was 41st when I first was 44th. It needs to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by norrain13

We all paid, if you are inactive on the server you are taking up a slot for an active player, if you are waiting for a queue while you make lunch, chances are you are gonna be checking back in at your monitor/tv now and you can jump or something to avoid the kick. Easy enough, some people just don't think things through. It is better for everyone in the short term.

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someone will DC eventally and you can get in :)... no reason for this is be implemented

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Originally Posted by Austin

no way... i pay, i should be able to stay on no matter how long i'm afk.

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Screw this guy.

It's called being selfish. When you afk for 12 hours you're wasting space and denying other paying customers the opportunity to play. What do you lose during your afk activity? Nothing. Because you were never on.

I imagine if there weren't so many AFKers the log in issues wouldn't be so extreme to begin with. I got on for an hour today and saw so many lifeless bodies it really pissed me off.

I've been trying to log in for approximately 1 hour and 12 minutes as of right now. Thats reason enough to me. :P

Funny that nobody is seeing the real problem in this.

The fact that it is so under prepared for a population that Yoshi was aiming for.


I don't have a problem with a que, what I DO have a problem with is not being able to fucking log in at all.

Its bullshit

Characters on 5 different worlds, 2 above the 20's and I cant log in with any of them.

How nice that some of you guys paid to play. You know what, I payed to play too ... 3 months ago, and all I have been able to see for early access is a screen that says world is full. try again later. Besides the obvious fact these issues should have been worked out in the betas, there does need to be a queue, and the game should kick all the afk people who are stealing space and game time from others who have paid to play but can't while they are sitting there doing nothing and SE is hording slots.

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Originally Posted by Ninja-Mage

Screw this guy.

It's called being selfish. When you afk for 12 hours you're wasting space and denying other paying customers the opportunity to play. What do you lose during your afk activity? Nothing. Because you were never on.

I imagine if there weren't so many AFKers the log in issues wouldn't be so extreme to begin with. I got on for an hour today and saw so many lifeless bodies it really pissed me off.

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lol you don't understand the negative affects of putting an afk kick in.. it wouldn't solve a damn thing. Ask for a better que server; not some dumb boot me if im afk

Click Play
Select Character
Gridania Load Screen Starts
"World is currently full, Please wait until and opening is available and try again"
Curse loudly at the screen after doing this over and hour
Do this about 30 times, get frustrated check the forum for a second
Rinse Repeat.

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Originally Posted by Austin

no way... i pay, i should be able to stay on no matter how long i'm afk.

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So is everyone else. Ironic.

the dumb boot me afk would suffice until they got the servers taken care of.

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Originally Posted by norrain13

Click Play
Select Character
Gridania Load Screen Starts
"World is currently full, Please wait until and opening is available and try again"
Curse loudly at the screen after doing this over and hour
Do this about 30 times, get frustrated check the forum for a second
Rinse Repeat.

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norrain you got skype?

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Originally Posted by norrain13

Click Play
Select Character
Gridania Load Screen Starts
"World is currently full, Please wait until and opening is available and try again"
Curse loudly at the screen after doing this over and hour
Do this about 30 times, get frustrated check the forum for a second
Rinse Repeat.

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Or I can go to any city and edit my search info to turn on "Away from Keyboard" and filter the chatlog to /tell only before go to bed. When I wake up, take a screenshot of /tell messages from rage people telling me to get out.

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Originally Posted by Austin

lol you don't understand the negative affects of putting an afk kick in.. it wouldn't solve a damn thing. Ask for a better que server; not some dumb boot me if im afk

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Could you please elaborate on why it wouldn't solve anything? The only thing i can think of is macroing running into a wall repeatedly as to not get afk'ed if they were to implement it. There are videos all over the place of hours of afkers not to mention people on this very forum admitting to as much. Implementing an afk system would boot people that do this and allow a fair shot at others, like myself, that have been waiting about 14 hours today alon to get in. That doesn't count the 12 i waited yesterday. Anything at this point regarding an afk boot timer would be greatly appreciated by many of us.

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Originally Posted by Dreyda

Could you please elaborate on why it wouldn't solve anything? The only thing i can think of is macroing running into a wall repeatedly as to not get afk'ed if they were to implement it. .

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-- so everyone gets booted after lets just say 20 mins.... then you have to log back in clogging up the log in server (not guaranteed but there would be a hell of a lot more people trying to log in when the server is still full casuing a backlash -- again not saying 100% would happen but its def a possibility

-- ruins immersion, its cool to be able to just come back and still be there check my messages, crafting, AH etc etc.. most won't understand this but for people who play socially and for hardcore, an afk boot would suck

what if someone wants to message me online and i got booted because i was afk. It takes away that life of in-game

plus there is a workaround for the situation thats going on, if you're smart you'll figure it out and why less and less people are complaining about it ;)

"-- ruins immersion, its cool to be able to just come back and still be there check my messages, crafting, AH etc etc.. most won't understand this but for people who play socially and for hardcore, an afk boot would suck

what if someone wants to message me online and i got booted because i was afk. It takes that away that life of in-game

plus there is a workaround for the situation that going on, if you're smart you'll figure it out and why less and less people are complaining about it ;)"

I'm sorry, but none of what you stated, in my opinion, is anywhere remotely a good enough reason to lock out THOUSANDS of players if not a whole lot more than that. The workaround of macroing the 0 key and spamming is considered automation and i will not risk a ban. I refuse to roll on JP servers. There should be no need to.

this game need in-game AFK player kick feature

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Originally Posted by Dreyda

"-- ruins immersion, its cool to be able to just come back and still be there check my messages, crafting, AH etc etc.. most won't understand this but for people who play socially and for hardcore, an afk boot would suck

what if someone wants to message me online and i got booted because i was afk. It takes that away that life of in-game

plus there is a workaround for the situation that going on, if you're smart you'll figure it out and why less and less people are complaining about it ;)"

I'm sorry, but none of what you stated, in my opinion, is anywhere remotely a good enough reason to lock out THOUSANDS of players if not a whole lot more than that. The workaround of macroing the 0 key and spamming is considered automation and i will not risk a ban. I refuse to roll on JP servers. There should be no need to.

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what the hell does the 0 key do lol?

I agree with an AFK timer being put in place, 90% of the paid and free games I have played kick you after 15 min, if your legitimately waiting for an instance go work on your DoH, DoL or your Jobs required secondary class while you wait there is so much to do in this game while you wait for something. But these people sitting there taking up space is ruining what could be a good game, sure SE needs to move beyond a max queue of 250 and needs to lift these login limits if they truly want to test and fix the servers but for the time being people should be considerate to their fellow gamer and log off when not active and SE should introduce an AFK Kick policy

AFK timers are a good idea, however they should not apply if the player is in duty finder.

If you're AFK, you're not playing, just wasting a slot. There is no point in being AFK as far as the games structure or function are concerned. You can't sell stuff directly from your character, there's no achievements for not doing anything, and no one really cares what you look like.
There's no practical use beyond the fear of 1017 when they try to get back in, which is ironically fueled by the very people who AFK.

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Originally Posted by Austin

no way... i pay, i should be able to stay on no matter how long i'm afk.

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People like you are a huge part of the problem. You know who else pays? People that can't play the game because you're logged in all night while you sleep, or all day while at work.

Seriously, if you afk so long that the game logs you out, oh I dunno... log back in? I know, mind blowing. It shouldn't be an issue without people taking up space while not even playing.

I do not see why those waiting on the duty finder should be allowed to be afk, if you're going for an instance make sure your available, not keeping everyone waiting, there's plenty to do while waiting.

I fully support an afk kick, 30 mins should do and is reasonable.

Stop treating NA/EU players like high school students. You know you can go afk in JP servers whenever you want, right?

if you're not playing the game, log out in your inn room. someone can message you via moogle mail when you're away.

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Originally Posted by Zehira

Stop treating NA/EU players like high school students. You know you can go afk in JP servers whenever you want, right?

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sadly we (NA/EU) ARE school students for how we behaive
You don't play? Log out. You don't need that server space if you are AFK for long

But ppl don't do this cuz they have the education you can expect from elementary school students

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Originally Posted by LetBloodline

sadly we (NA/EU) ARE school students for how we behaive
You don't play? Log out. You don't need that server space if you are AFK for long

But ppl don't do this cuz they have the education you can expect from elementary school students

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Hmm true... My computer is in sleep mode right now. The game is now out in stores in Japan I will see how it's going as I am stuck in JP server. If it's full Japanese will complain but hey it's SE's fault for not providing more servers. The queue system is broken for some reason I happened to get in after about 40th or so in the waiting line. It's something how people are spamming to get the servers to response. You see why Blizzard has more than 200 servers for WoW in NA alone and EU have that same amount as well.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

If you're AFK, you're not playing, just wasting a slot. There is no point in being AFK as far as the games structure or function are concerned. You can't sell stuff directly from your character, there's no achievements for not doing anything, and no one really cares what you look like.
There's no practical use beyond the fear of 1017 when they try to get back in, which is ironically fueled by the very people who AFK.

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^ Grammy, this is why I love you. Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by Zehira

Hmm true... My computer is in sleep mode right now. The game is now out in stores in Japan I will see how it's going as I am stuck in JP server. If it's full Japanese will complain but hey it's SE's fault for not providing more servers. The queue system is broken for some reason I happened to get in after about 40th or so in the waiting line. It's something how people are spamming to get the servers to response. You see why Blizzard has more than 200 servers for WoW in NA alone and EU have that same amount as well.

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it's true that WoW have a lil bit larger comunity compared to the one expected here. You can't compare number of server

Is also true that some games that opened many servers, after few months had those same servers deserted. Open new server is not wrong or right, it's something to consider very carefully

I seriously have no problem with the people who are squatting on login slots while AFK. Well, I have a slight problem with it, but I understand it. After three straight days of getting booted and losing the ability to play for the rest of the day, or not being able to log at all, the frustration mounts to the levels where nearby valuable inanimate get destroyed. Sometimes, instead of cracking, people cheat the system. I really can't blame them.

Institute an inactive timer, and that issue ends. The problem doesn't lie with the people hoarding their spots on the system, it lies with Square and their maddeningly slow response to this pervasive problem. I can't fault a person for doing whatever they can to try to actually play this game they payed for and waited to experience for so long.

Nearly every other MMO I've ever played has an auto-afk kick mechanism. Frankly, trying to argue against one is just pure selfishness. Everyone is paying the same fee so quite simply somebody who actually wants to play should always take preference over selfish individuals who are taking up server resoures while they work / sleep etc.

Make it an hour rather than 20 minutes perhaps, but trying to defend the practice of taking up an active slot while you are deliberately afk for an extended period is simply childish and illogical when the practice of auto-afk disconnection is so commonplace in other games.

If this game had only come out during the days of AOL, this problem would be solved.

How are you going to stop people like me who put a rubber band around their RS in order for the camera to move while away?