1.0 relived

Well looks like its a complete successful launch for 2.0, that is if your Japanese. Good job again for doing the exact same thing as 1.0 mix EA with NA. If I remember right from 1.0 this was like for a whole month till then people decided that it wasn't worth it and then it leveled out. Then we got a message from you all stating we fixed the servers for our EU and NA customers. Starting to get that Dejavu thing all over again.

Well I hope thats not the case, or I could be one of those people, why pay a monthly sub for a game you even log into, and if you do get in you cant advance your quests because the duty server is overloaded

where to I get a refund?

If that really happened, just wow. They seriously didn't put 2 and 2 together? For it to happen again being apart of it this time, really makes me wonder what type of people they have hired over there. Even on a standalone point for 2.0, they can optimize all they want, I doubt its gonna change jack. I don't claim to be an armchair expert here, but kind of the same theory of "square peg won't fit in round hole" type deal. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Comes down to the point of if SE is willing to spend extra to keep its customer base full on the NA & EU sides (I say sides since they seriously should have been separate from the start.) Though with its track record and recent attempts, I guess history will repeat itself. Sad to see FF go down like these.

2013/08/25 08:00 Several Worlds Emergency Maintenance (Aug. 25)
At the following time, we will be performing emergency maintenance. During this period, the Worlds listed below will be unavailable.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.

[Date & Time]
Aug. 25, 2013 from 8:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. (PDT)

* The completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Worlds]
North American/European Data Center Worlds
- Adamantoise
- Balmung
- Behemoth
- Cactuar
- Cerberus
- Coeurl
- Diabolos
- Excalibur
- Exodus
- Faerie
- Gilgamesh
- Goblin
- Hyperion
- Lamia
- Leviathan
- Malboro
- Midgardsormr
- Moogle
- Odin
- Phoenix
- Ragnarok
- Sargatanas
- Shiva
- Siren
- Ultros

Here it goes, now watch when launch happens. It will go 2 ways people get fed up and quit which will be 30% or SE "we will be delaying launch do to many server issues please be patient and we will resolve it. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding. New date for launch will be given Later on"

I need to know about refunds well, I was a 1.0 CE player. I just wanted early access but its unplayable. I need to know this and the SE site is very vague on the topic.

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Originally Posted by Daventry23

I need to know about refunds well, I was a 1.0 CE player. I just wanted early access but its unplayable. I need to know this and the SE site is very vague on the topic.

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It's not broke yet hun, you can go to the JP Servers and play just turn off all chat and play solo. And nope no refunds, Do not pass go, Do not collect 200$.

Don't overreact so much. This is only the second full day of being able to play the game. This game is in no way shape or form in the same boat as it was in 1.0. That game was riddled with many other issues than this current oversaturation of players.

I don't remember there being many server issues with the 1.0 launch, but perhaps that's more a social commentary on our lack of attention spans as a population. People are freaking out about this now, but in a few weeks, when they're enjoying the game (if they haven't quit over these issues...), we won't even be talking about it. If we do, it'll be along the lines of, "Well, that wasn't fun."

I would argue that this isn't the same problems as 1.0. Actually, quite the opposite. 1.0 was not a good game. We knew it from open beta, and we knew it at launch. 2.0, on the other hand, is a great game and very enjoyable... if you could actually just ENJOY it. By the time the 90000 error was permanently fixed for me and I was ready to progress, the duty finder was almost constantly down. It was frustrating but instead of sitting around and venting ingame or offgame, I just logged out and went about my own business. "I'll just go to sleep. It'll be fixed by tomorrow..."

Now I'm awake. I see no point in raging (what good does that do?) but I am a bit worried. This game is having so many issues because of a server overload... which is funny (in a sad way) because it's the success of the game that is causing these issues. I don't want people to quit, but if SE doesn't get these issues under control soon, they're going to be labeled as having another 'bad' launch. It's sad... because 2.0 is a game I feel comfortable standing behind. They worked so hard to remake this game and now the server issues are making it almost unplayable for some (well, if you want to do anything instanced... which is a lot of solo quests).

I don't think SE anticipated just how many people would be playing this game. They should've had more NA/EU servers, especially Legacy ones. A lot of newer players want to start and play with their friends (who are all 'locked' on a Legacy server), which is causing congestion/fullness in logins. I have my fingers crossed that these issues are worked out soon because I know if they are, the people complaining now will just forget about it and enjoy the game. If they aren't worked out soon, people will continue to get frustrated and end up quitting altogether. In my experience, it's harder to get someone to come back than to keep them in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Don't overreact so much. This is only the second full day of being able to play the game. This game is in no way shape or form in the same boat as it was in 1.0. That game was riddled with many other issues than this current oversaturation of players.

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I would agree with you except the fact that ever since P4, hell probably before then just not as noticeable, they've mainly focused on JP only. Yes they've brought us down multiple times for maintenance, but for what? They keep 'optimizing' a server that doesn't work. All this shows is the only thing they'll do is keep rebooting us (or whatever technical term you'd like to use) every few hours till enough people leave the game so the current servers they have work. Is that how you really want a company to treat its customers outside its country?

Considering we have to think up our own reasons as to why this keeps happening, I'd be happy for some expert to come here and tell us otherwise and break it down in detail why. Although until then it really does just look like a company pinching pennys for a player base they don't want to focus on, only do so since its how generally MMOs work - but with minimal effort. Finally, this isn't just the 'second day'. We had these problems in P4, yet SE continued on as nothing was wrong, claiming it was fixed since JP servers were overall ok.

Not that i'm not p. off by the infinite chain of maints, but comparing 2.0 launch to 1.0's simply means u weren't there. Atm you're angry because you can't play the game, back at 1.0 launch you'd be asking a refund because you wouldn't even want to play said game.

is it because of soooooo many players, if so why arent they opening new worlds or servers up so that on launch day when even more people hop on this game we wont have these problems, its just going to keep getting worse cause they are already maxing out all of these worlds

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Originally Posted by goony

is it because of soooooo many players, if so why arent they opening new worlds or servers up so that on launch day when even more people hop on this game we wont have these problems, its just going to keep getting worse cause they are already maxing out all of these worlds

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Have you checked your Connection to EU/NA servers yet and compared it to JP one's. I bet it will say Excellent connection on JP and Good when EU/NA is up. Why you think that is? My guess: JP either has less people playing on theirs or EU/NA is crappy servers. I hope cause of less people. With that note just get with a group you run with and migrate over to JP servers I found that it runs so flawlessly. 4 of us have our toons on JP an EU/NA when we all can't get into EU/NA we log into our alts and try our servers when it comes up. I will be asking the group if we should just stay on JP tomorrow.

yea i havent even been able to play the game but for a few hours then was booted do to server maintenance and now the servers are up it wont let me choose my world to log into kinda getting upset that i preorderd for nothing i figure they would have these issues resolved seems how there was 4 phases of beta some on SE!!!!

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Originally Posted by Syon

Not that i'm not p. off by the infinite chain of maints, but comparing 2.0 launch to 1.0's simply means u weren't there. Atm you're angry because you can't play the game, back at 1.0 launch you'd be asking a refund because you wouldn't even want to play said game.

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Your comparison of experiences is like comparing horse poop to cow poop and saying that the cow poop is much better. Either way its still shit.

1.0 flopped because of the combat system and pretty much everything except connection issues.

Of course it flopped cause of that when people saw it was crapp and they weren't going to fix they left. It never made to full capacity. I was there when they migrated servers so they wouldn't loose money having so few on.

Yes version 1.0 flopped for very different reasons (it sucked), but a problem is still a problem.
I am trying to be patient and give SqEnix the benefit of the doubt, but they have lost a lot of player confidence and trust due to 1.0 and they should have already and should be doing right now more to maintain what goodwill that the players giving them a second chance have left.
What worries me the most is that with this many problems with "early access", things will be so much worse come Tuesday with the official launch.