Grinding GSM 40-50 in 12 hours

Just wanted to throw it out there that I went from Lv40 to Lv50 on my goldsmith today. It took 12 hours, and these hours include mining for all the materials to do so.

At 48, I put on my felt gear and spent 30 minutes mining amber then crafting it into HQ gems. After that I spent another 15 minutes making enough HQ amber electrum circlets to turn in tradecraft leves (100,000xp per turn-in) to 50. The entire experience was pretty gratifying, going from 48 to 50 in under 5 minutes.

The point? How do all of you feel about this? I will admit there is a twinge of sadness in the back of my head that it took me 2 months from 1-40 in 1.0 then 12 hours in 2.0 to reach the end. The accomplishment feels a bit shallow. But hey, I still did it! =P

Your thoughts?

Game is much more geared toward casual players and easy. Nothing will feel like an accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by Spanky

Game is much more geared toward casual players and easy. Nothing will feel like an accomplishment.

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I mined an HQ Basilisk Egg and HQ'd an Electrum Needle. I felt quit accomplished.

To each their own.


To the topic: As someone who did a lot of DoH/L grinding in 1.0, I'm glad to see this. As crafting is a supplement, it shouldn't be an obnoxious chore.

For me I don't have the time to spend my life on the game however I have to admit that I don't care what anyone says. This game is way to easy. Maybe some of these dungeons aren't but wtf. If that is all that is difficult then even without the time to grind I probably won't stay to long. I do love the world and the stories. Just find it ridiculous that I have gone 20 lvls without dying once.

Congratulations! That's a great achievement.
I'm at 30 GSM and its good to know I can achieve 50 in a timely manner :)

It means im gonna go finish off weaver if it is that ez to lvl crafts so I can finally have them all 50, but it will make my others feel a little tainted

Congrats... Im gonna marathon exp WVR 47-50 asap...

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Originally Posted by Issac

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That I will lvl all my jobs (land/fight) in 1 month before they starts to bill me, in worst case 2 months. Time to think what others mmo are there that I need to complete and move on.

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Originally Posted by Qamaqi

That I will lvl all my jobs (land/fight) in 1 month before they starts to bill me, in worst case 2 months. Time to think what others mmo are there that I need to complete and move on.

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If the only thing you want to do in an MMO is level the classes, you will be disappointed in every current MMO on the market. The goal is end game, that is where the new and dynamic content they create ends up. Or, novel idea, you could take your time instead of rushing through things.

To me, the accomplishment in crafting comes from getting the Luminary tools.

An issue comes to mind when leveling is quick and short, which is the issue of equipment.
When the time it takes to level from 1 to 50 is shorter than the effort it takes to HQ+ and meld all the materia for said low and mid range gears, it devalues the crafter's purpose.

I remember in another mmo, where I've invested in an expensive level 1 item with major enhancements for it, because it would shave time off leveling up for multiple classes.
However, in FFXIV:ARR I wouldn't spend a gil on any level 1-40 top line equipment at all, because the time it saves for leveling up is negligible.

The time it takes for the market to collapse for low and mid range gear will be in aspect to how fast leveling becomes. Simply because there isn't going to be a demand for it.
The current minor work around to that is level-cap content along with gimps on scaled down equipments. Although, I don't think the scaled down is high enough to discourage players from using high level gears yet.

This makes me sad for all the time I spent in levelling my crafts to 50. I could have skipped it and waited till now, and do it all in hours instead of months. But c'est la vie.

Looking at today, the sad part now is that being a level 50 crafter is no longer something special. Almost anyone can easily obtain it, therefore there is no distinction. With only a modicum of effort, all can be level 50 in almost everything. What is there to set us out above the rest? Where is the need for a community to reach crafters, if one can easily be self-sufficient?

But level 50 is not the end. Perhaps the first 50 are meant to be easy, and it is the next 25 or 50 that will be hard. Perhaps there will be specializations, and xp curves that make doing all impossible or terribly challenging.

Until we know the future plans, it is hard to justify the present system. In the mean time: I find the new crafting interface much better, and I hope others find happyness and enjoyment in using it.

It was an exaggeration, but really if lvling 1-50 in every class could be done in 1-2 months do you really think that grinding raids at 50 would last forever? I don't see why SE had to bother wasting time creating 1-50 content. I only had to ran 1 time each dungeon to fulfill hunting log and quest needs, doesn't even need to lot gear if it will only be worthy for next 3-5 levels if I will do it in 2 h. I will play till I feel satisfied and that at this pace will happen in 2 months, may come back later after every patch but that is all

And taking my time? how? I didn't rushed, I just did step by step the way the game lead me and I was already lvl 15 with a mix of gear lvl 5, 8 and 12 (weapon) in 5 hours! ppl that rushed was already lvl 20 by that time. I am not a hardcore player, always played trying to feel the lvl seeking the best gear every 4-5 lvls but this game rushes you to lvl 50, didn't have the time to check AH either (those wards...), I can go on but no point doing so here.

IF this is true, it makes me seriously disappointed as I really enjoy the experience of leveling and putting some real effort into my classes. ESPECIALLY crafting ones. imo not everyone should max out crafting. it should take dedication and hard work to do so. If everyone and their mother is 50 everything, there's really no point in it.
"Why should I have someone else craft this for me when I can just do it myself"

In my opinion having a max level crafting job should be an accomplishment! Damn this instant gratification BS that's such a trend in MMO's nowadays!

I'll admit that at the start of 1.0, when leveling crafting took AGES to get anywhere, that was a bit much... but I'd say that near the end of 1.0 that was a more decent rate of leveling. maybe even a little too fast to be honest.

Ugh.. no... this just makes me upset... "instant" 50's... high level gear crafting being very inferior to most (if not all) "dungeon" drops...
Crafting is losing it's purpose... ._.

/shrug Making it take longer wouldn't exactly make it any more fun. (I realize that some people DO enjoy grinding though so to each their own) It's not like you can hit a button and have it auto-craft you to level cap like in some MMOs (well you can do bulk crafting but that halves your exp), it still requires some effort if you want to level multiple crafting classes and plenty of people won't want to put in the work to get it done so I don't see why there won't be people relying on crafters for melding and at least entry level gear at endgame. Leveling gear might not be all that valuable since you really can get what you need from quests and dungeons but still there are those that just grind hunting logs and FATEs and might want to purchase upgrades on the Market Boards every few levels or so. 40 to 50 in 12 hours (if you add in 1-40 as well) and then do that for every crafting class there is it'll still take you a fair amount of time to get them all up there and that's just for dedicated crafters. Plenty of people like to level crafting along with their battle classes/jobs and it'll take longer if you're not 100% committed to getting it done as soon as possible.

It isn't really a problem, it's nice to know that you'll have a chance to actually craft yourself gear. If it took forever you'd never use any of the gear you crafted, you'll likely have better via dungeons by the time your craft became useful.

It would be cool if they gave you an option to rename the gear/weapons you craft, like in Revenant Wings

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Originally Posted by Issac

Just wanted to throw it out there that I went from Lv40 to Lv50 on my goldsmith today. It took 12 hours, and these hours include mining for all the materials to do so.

At 48, I put on my felt gear and spent 30 minutes mining amber then crafting it into HQ gems. After that I spent another 15 minutes making enough HQ amber electrum circlets to turn in tradecraft leves (100,000xp per turn-in) to 50. The entire experience was pretty gratifying, going from 48 to 50 in under 5 minutes.

The point? How do all of you feel about this? I will admit there is a twinge of sadness in the back of my head that it took me 2 months from 1-40 in 1.0 then 12 hours in 2.0 to reach the end. The accomplishment feels a bit shallow. But hey, I still did it! =P

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no problem here, but 2 months to get a craft from 1 to 40 in 1.0, are you sure ? cos it doesnt take me that long

you level to fast to need to buy equipment and its does not help the quest chains give you equipment.

only relic weapon base will sell & star equipment will sell a bit since you can just queue up for a dungeon and get gear for free thats better.

I don't mind the speed at what you level so much as how easy it is to HQ items now. (I suppose they are related, considering quality increases XP gain)

In a few months the only things on the MW will be HQ items, why would you want a standard version when the HQ is so easy to obtain ?

It won't be long before crafters get a nerf I'm sure.

One thing I will say though is I like the restriction on Control and Craftmanship on high level gear, this should be standard though on all recipes.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I don't mind the speed at what you level so much as how easy it is to HQ items now. (I suppose they are related, considering quality increases XP gain)

In a few months the only things on the MW will be HQ items, why would you want a standard version when the HQ is so easy to obtain ?

It won't be long before crafters get a nerf I'm sure.

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HQ gear has a better chance to spiritbond into better materia. I see no problem with HQ gear being easier to make.

Great for you OP! I'm not being sarcastic, but you have a great point. I know people want it easy and now, but I think they are lacking the Foresight of a real MMO world. I'm not going to compare for fear of a "then go play that" thread. Because of the continuous speeding up and soloing accessibility you lose such a fundamental part of an MMO,and that is really taking time to learn your job and working together to do it. I really don't want to start an argument; but OP brings up a really serious point.

I wanna know a fast way to get Weaver from 20-50 so i can craft my BTN gear ;) Think i'ma work on my GSM for now while leveling mining.

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Originally Posted by Kagalli

I wanna know a fast way to get Weaver from 20-50 so i can craft my BTN gear ;) Think i'ma work on my GSM for now while leveling mining.

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There is probably no way to level weaver fast because you would need to make felt gear and felt is annoying to farm the mats for.

You could try making simple wool gear with high quality though. (again though fleece is annoying to farm)

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Originally Posted by Spanky

Game is much more geared toward casual players and easy. Nothing will feel like an accomplishment.

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Not everyone has a need to spend countless hours to feel accomplished. People have other ways to achieve that too.

to be fair it wasn't really 12h what it took to the OP:

You had miner at high level to farm your mats, in 1.0 having a miner leveled wasn't really a must since the marked was flooded with mats and levequests gave you all you needed, aside from the shards/crystals. You used levequests, that require a set ammount of time to recharge after you have spent your charges.

Not saying you didn't do this right or anything, just saying that to someone w/o all your "preparation" it might take quite a bit more of time.

If anything, the fact that leves give 100,000 exp at the high level is a little concerning. Five minutes to get from L48 to L50? No wonder!

From one perspective it's good that we don't need to spend a life time to hit 50, it's kind of soothing that I don't need to grind to much ;) However remember that Yoshi mentioned, that they will raise lvl cap in the near future. I think than the real stairs will start. They need to give a chance for new players to catch up to us ;)

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Originally Posted by Loony_BoB

If anything, the fact that leves give 100,000 exp at the high level is a little concerning. Five minutes to get from L48 to L50? No wonder!

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Yep, when you turn in HQ products, your xp reward is tripled. Base of 33500 reward, plus 67000 (+200%). Do it 10 times and poof! You're 50 from 48.

Even if you don't have a miner up there it's exceedingly easy to do. Buy 10 HQ amber, 30 HQ electrum ingots then HQ the product. For me at 48, it was effortless to HQ them, honestly.

It's pretty lame considering how much effort people had to put in for 1.0. Let's give in to all the babies who can't handle figuring something out that involves turning their heads slightly left or right.

Okay, let's get to the real problem now. Can I actually play this game yet?

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Originally Posted by Yoona

It's pretty lame considering how much effort people had to put in for 1.0. Let's give in to all the babies who can't handle figuring something out that involves turning their heads slightly left or right.

Okay, let's get to the real problem now. Can I actually play this game yet?

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Come to Masamune. Not a single problem since launch and plenty of english-speaking players as well as japanese. It's a healthy mix and I welcome more peers to come.

You sir just opened up a whole new can of worms.

The NA/EU rage will be unstoppable reading that statement.

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Originally Posted by SenKoyo

If the only thing you want to do in an MMO is level the classes, you will be disappointed in every current MMO on the market. The goal is end game, that is where the new and dynamic content they create ends up. Or, novel idea, you could take your time instead of rushing through things.

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More importantly, where the hell do people get the time to do something like that anyway? Do they live in a cave?

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Originally Posted by Yoona

It's pretty lame considering how much effort people had to put in for 1.0. Let's give in to all the babies who can't handle figuring something out that involves turning their heads slightly left or right.

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Considering a majority of players used bots to get their crafts up, I'd hardly call it effort. I'm glad they made craftng less of a pain in the ass to level, now maybe I'll actually bother leveling more than one to cap, because crafts were hella annoying on a level I can't even explain in words. After reaching 50 there was no sense of accomplishment, it was like...fuck, I'm finally done with this bullshit.

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Originally Posted by DezyRavioli

More importantly, where the hell do people get the time to do something like that anyway? Do they live in a cave?

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1.0 was bot heaven. It was just epic seeing them. :D

I'm just leveling ARN because all of my other classes are 50. >.< Go figure.

Also, ignore my forum 'account', as it's just an alt account I used for phase 4 of beta.

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Originally Posted by moizeus

1.0 was bot heaven. It was just epic seeing them. :D

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Hiding in every corner, some out in the open! It was crazy.