ACN/SCH/SMN Macros & Cross-bar Setup

For the aspiring ACN/SMN/SCH's out there, post macros you are looking to create when EA starts, or have created during OB that you would think would be useful during dungeons, raids and anything else.

I know during OB when I was doing Sastasha, I was dealing with Emerald Carbuncle running after mobs that ran away during fight and with my Sic/Heal/Stay/etc. macros on my cross-bar set 2, he'd already run well off before I could even swap sets.

Now if I recall correctly my cross-bar setup for actions look something like this, and this is what I can remember from memory.

(crap... I'll just have to edit this when EA starts.... just had a total brain dump)

But anyway... share how you handle this class of jobs.

I pulled other DoTs like Aero onto the hot bar and pretty much would drop Miasma, Bio, Aero, Thunder, and then energy drain and ruin or help heal depending on what party needed. I also heard the Topaz Carbuncle did more damage than the emerald one, not sure if that is true or not.

How I had mine set up in OB was on the left side starting with the dpad up was limit break, right was open for potions down was topaz, left was emerald, the buttons i left alone. The right side starting with the dpad up was sustain, right was aether flow, down was energy drain, left was virus. triangle/y was physick, circle/b was ruin, x/a was bio and square/x was miasma. The one thing I do wish with the cross bar is when the pet bar is active i want to be able to switch my bars like normal instead of going back between the currently active bar and the pet bar. I still have a lot to mess around with to make the best setup for me. I might just end up putting sic on the left side on one of the buttons.

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Originally Posted by TheOfficialLou

I pulled other DoTs like Aero onto the hot bar and pretty much would drop Miasma, Bio, Aero, Thunder, and then energy drain and ruin or help heal depending on what party needed. I also heard the Topaz Carbuncle did more damage than the emerald one, not sure if that is true or not.

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Actually in my experience Emerald does more damage. You can even check the potency on Emerald's skills; they're higher. Some people may be confusing Topaz taking hate more readily for being stronger, idk. It has more HP and solid enmity multipliers, but the DPS Carbuncle is Emerald.

No marcos but what i did for dd was use emerald Carbuncle for dpsing, had sic ,stay, place and follow on LT d-pad of 8th cross bar(hit R1 once and hold LT to use them then R1 again to go back to skills). Other than that was using Aetherflow and Energy drain after I used Bio so i could weave those in at a point where i would otherwise be standing still for 2.5s. Skills with cast time were on RT Buttons and Instant cast on RT d-pad. Cant remember what i had on LT, pots and summons probably.

Did anybody figure out how to make macros for the pets? Like in ffxi you would make /pet "Predator Claws" <t> or is using the pet attacks simply adding the action on the hot bar? would be nice to make macro that has multiple actions to save hot bar space

I set my pet hotbar to alt+1 - alt+= keybinds. DoTs and heals in my main hot-bar, abilities which I don't use as frequently (summons, protect, sustain) in the ctrl+ one. I also noticed that it seemed as though cycling through all my DoTs on all the monsters in a group yielded greater DPS than landing them on only one and spamming Ruin until it died. As a result I didn't use Ruin as much as other ACNs I observed.

i will definately go both SMN and SCH and will seperate my bars accordingly... SMN will have all DoT based spells plus ruin while SCH will have all healing spells... im a caster only player so i have WHM and BLM maxed (currently) and geared so i can always switch up if necessary

I as well am interested in any Pet Macro's and how exactly they work. anyone have idea's???

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Originally Posted by IMAGNDAT

Did anybody figure out how to make macros for the pets? Like in ffxi you would make /pet "Predator Claws" <t> or is using the pet attacks simply adding the action on the hot bar? would be nice to make macro that has multiple actions to save hot bar space

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I'd imagine it would be:
/ac "Gust" <t>
Which would only work when Emerald was summoned. However I think it's pretty pointless, since the Gust command itself does exactly that.

What about healing the pet can you target the pet and use a normal heal spell or can you only use the spell that regens 8% of the health Overtime? and what would be an example of a Macro you would use to target the pet???? I assume /ac "physick" <pet name>

pretty close, just use <pet> instead of pet name

Thanks!!!! is there going to be an easy macro to have the pet target adds?

Question about the pet command Obey. Does it cause carbuncle to only use auto-attack? Or will it still use the basic single target ability (Gust for emerald carby, and Gouge for topaz carby).

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Originally Posted by aivedoir

Question about the pet command Obey. Does it cause carbuncle to only use auto-attack? Or will it still use the basic single target ability (Gust for emerald carby, and Gouge for topaz carby).

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I'm pretty certain it just uses its AA.

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Originally Posted by Gnc1234

What about healing the pet can you target the pet and use a normal heal spell or can you only use the spell that regens 8% of the health Overtime?

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Normal healing spells work on the pet too.

So far this is what I was able to set
/ac "Summon" <me>
/chotbar change 2 -Change to chotbar set 2-
/chotbar remove 2 RAL R2 + □ = RAL(RA1)
/chotbar remove 2 RAU R2 + △ = RAU(RA2)
/chotbar remove 2 RAR R2 + 〇 = RAR(RA3)
/chotbar remove 2 RAD R2 + Ｘ = RAD(RA4)
-Erases Set 2 so I can replace the skills from the summon-
/wait 0.5 (You know... just in case)
*None of the macros below work, set subcommand macros for pet are broke ATM*
/chotbar set "Shining Emerald" 2 RAL
/chotbar set "Downburst" 2 RAU
/chotbar set "Gust" 2 RAR
/chotbar set "Backdraft" 2 RAD
-These are the skills I want to set to my crosshotbar for any designated pet, the point is not having to switch between 5 different bars for each summon skill, it's just not effective-

I haven't found any macro commands on the internet nor have I recieved a response from SE to confirm if pet macros are available since the (PET) tab is different from (SKILLS) tab and maybe that's why we're having this problem.

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Originally Posted by Epherion

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I seriously don't understand this. You know that if you just tap R1 whilst having a pet summoned it'll load a hotbar unique to that pet, right? To me it sounds like you're recreating the same hotbar over and over whenever you summon a different pet >< Sorry if I missed the point.

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

I seriously don't understand this. You know that if you just tap R1 whilst having a pet summoned it'll load a hotbar unique to that pet, right? To me it sounds like you're recreating the same hotbar over and over whenever you summon a different pet >< Sorry if I missed the point.

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I totally disliked the pre-set pet hotbar... And I don't like having to tap or hold R1 to change a hotbar set from 8 different ones.
I had to turn it off because it's not my gameplay style... We all have one you know, and this macro fits mine.

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Originally Posted by Epherion

I totally disliked the pre-set pet hotbar... And I don't like having to tap or hold R1 to change a hotbar set from 8 different ones.
I had to turn it off because it's not my gameplay style... We all have one you know, and this macro fits mine.

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That's fair enough; didn't mean to sound condescending or anything, I seriously didn't understand what your macros did (all of the gamepad macro lines confused me!).
It took me a little while to get used to, too. For my other jobs I just tap R1 to switch between the two "active" hotbars that I have... the pet one keeps tripping me up, but I'll get used to it!

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

That's fair enough; didn't mean to sound condescending or anything, I seriously didn't understand what your macros did (all of the gamepad macro lines confused me!).
It took me a little while to get used to, too. For my other jobs I just tap R1 to switch between the two "active" hotbars that I have... the pet one keeps tripping me up, but I'll get used to it!

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Sorry about the heat, I was not intending to be rude.

Indeed the pet active hotbar is a problem since I also have my buff hotbar and my summon/items hotbar and I tried the macros:

Buff set #3 (Icon number 3 for macro)
/chotbar change 3 (Any buffs so my main set consists of attack/defense skills only)

Summon/Item set #4
/chotbar change 4 (All summons and a variety of consumables)

But none worked while I had the Pet Hotbar option ON.

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Originally Posted by Gnc1234

What about healing the pet can you target the pet and use a normal heal spell or can you only use the spell that regens 8% of the health Overtime? and what would be an example of a Macro you would use to target the pet???? I assume /ac "physick" <pet name>

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Thank you dude xD i have been looking for this. does any one if you can make a macro like i WOW with alt and ctrl ? for when you press 1 it cast cure on your self and if you press alt and 1 down it class on a tank?

You guys could just use controllers and skip all these macros >_>

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Originally Posted by Epherion

macros and stuff

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Good stuff here Epherion.

I was thinking after Phase 4 ended about how I'd change the way i set up my ACN bars and turn the pet bar off. As much as I like the idea of a pet bar appearing only when I have a pet out - as it is very convenient - I just can't stand how the actions on it are set up on gamepad. The least useful actions in battle are on the most optimal buttons.

I was thinking of a way to set up my bars so that I can have commands for both topaz and emerald, but never thought to have use of a specific Summon Macro that not only summons the pet in question, be prepares the hotbar for them.

Consider me inspired.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the GCD timer coming from your own spells seems to put your pet's skills on cooldown as well. This means that only you or your pet can perform skills as soon as the GCD is refreshed. Manually casting your pet's skills doesn't seem worthwhile because it forces one of you to do nothing for a short time.

Personally, I think you can do well enough by using only the "Heel" and "Sic" commands. Let the AI take care of spamming Gust every 2.5 sec. I can also see "Place" being very useful in fights where positioning matters or for kiting. The less you have to focus on your pet, the more time you can spend focusing on your own spell rotation and positioning.

The default Pet Hotbar is terrible on a controller. You can't customize it and it overrides your other cross hotbar sets. I'd recommend disabling it and customizing your own set with fewer commands like Sic, Heel, Place, and a couple mode changers like Obey and Guard.

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Thank you dude xD i have been looking for this. does any one if you can make a macro like i WOW with alt and ctrl ? for when you press 1 it cast cure on your self and if you press alt and 1 down it class on a tank?

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Don't have macros for specific roles but its easy enough to hit f1-4 then your cure button. f1-8 if you're in a full party. f9 is the default to target your pet for your pet.

The macros I use on ACN/SCH/SMN are:

/ac swiftcast <me>
/wait 1
/ac "summon #" <me>
/hotbar change #

The hotbar change is for summon micro so I don't have Selene or Eos doing stuff when they aren't in the right position and such. Having them decide to use the Skill Speed or Regen buffs right after I summon them isn't the best.

And both have a
/hotbar change #
that switches to a hotbar with with DD spells and they have one in the same slot that switches back.

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Originally Posted by kro

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the GCD timer coming from your own spells seems to put your pet's skills on cooldown as well. This means that only you or your pet can perform skills as soon as the GCD is refreshed. Manually casting your pet's skills doesn't seem worthwhile because it forces one of you to do nothing for a short time.

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You just can't use pet commands while casting. You can do say Bio -> Embrace no problem because Bio is instant cast. As for manually casting them, you just have to hit it once and then you can do w/e don't have to wait for anything, just can't issue another pet command that would cancel the first one.

Best I could come up with is this, timing them for more than one rotation would be frustrating and potentially worthless if target moved out of range. I put fester for boss' or solo enemies, you can replace it with Bane for multiple targets. You have to have aether up before the chain Also you could add raging strikes at the beginning of the chain or just do it manually (haven't bothered unlocking it yet). Had to add a few extra delays for animation. If you have any better ones please share

/ac "Bio II" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Miasma" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Bio" <t>
/wait 1.5
/ac "Fester" <t>
/wait 1
/ac "Thunder"

interesting. never really considered doing this to create a list. But by your macro list your unable to move for about 8-10 seconds. Do you ever get that time? On fodder dungeons i can see it but in end game ones, might cause a problem. This does however give me PLENTY of ideas to fix certain restrictions i have so thanks!

1/ DoTs rotation:
/ac "Thunder" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Miasma" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Bio" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Bio II" <t>
/echo "Rotation End"

I use Bio as third command because it is instant, give me time to cast Aetherflow in between, before it starts casting Bio II, get ready for my Bane/Fester at the end of the rotation. When the macro finish casting, it will let me know by echo back "Rotation ends" to me. I like to make it simple, so I can be more mobility. I cast Aether and Bane/Fester manually, so I don't waste them and be more control of what to use and when to use.

2/ Heal :
/ac "Physik" <t>
/ac "Physik" <mo>
/ac "Physik" <me>
/say "Heal is coming"

It checks for the target I selected and process to heal. If target is not available (out of range, no target select,target dead,...), it then checks my mouse where it is pointing to (not select) and heal accordingly on allies. If none of the above is fulfilled,it will heal me instead. Upon completion, a message will pop up, as the same as I listed,to let me and my allies know I am doing healing.