Arcanist Lore

I know that Arcanist won't be implemented until launch, so I'm sure most of the lore surrounding the class will be input then.. But did any of you Lore Geniuses find any lore during beta 3.1 about the arrival of Arcanists? I know the Job quests will elaborate on the lost arts of summoning and the scholars of Nym, but my hope is there is some kind of lore explaining the presence of Arcanists in Eorzea. Sure the guild was always in Limsa, but I'm hoping they don't just throw the class in with no explanation. I didn't spend much time in Limsa, so I'm hoping maybe some of you read something that would indicate an explanation :) Thanks in advance!!

<3 Jojo

Do you know what the Arcanists are, jojober?
The same thing they were in 1.0, the port authority, the customs house. Yes, carbuncles are magical sniffing dogs, there are pictures to prove it! I just don't have them with me right now

I will, however, try to find out more next change I get

Yep I'm a little familiar with them^ ^ I was more interested if there will be lore or story explaining why players are now able to train as Arcanists or if they will just be tossed in as if we always could be ACN.

I wouldn't mind a lore explanation as for why they ditched those snazzy looking steampunk staff things. I know why SE did it design-wise, but there must be an in-game reason for it other than the retcon stamp.

I didn't talk to many NPCs in Phase 3 since I'm trying to keep things somewhat fresh, but there is a structure in Iron Lake named after Nym. Wonder if that will have any significance.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

I wouldn't mind a lore explanation as for why they ditched those snazzy looking steampunk staff things. I know why SE did it design-wise, but there must be an in-game reason for it other than the retcon stamp.

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They're custom agents who write down names and belongings into a ledger. I think it's pretty easy to explain, the book will always be on hand for them to write things down. Easier to explain that than why they had the staves in 1.0 lol. I'd like to see the explanation as to why they can summon Carbuncle myself, course that won't be told till launch I'm sure.

The practices of the Arcanists -- or at least the ones we have now -- came to Limsa from across the Southern Seas (according to the main site). It's possible that the title of Arcanist existed in Limsa since before Bahamut appeared, but the discipline as we know it did not. These new practices, including the ability to summon Carbuncle, could have come to the city after the Sixth Umbral Era and been adopted specifically by the already existing Arcanists' Guild in the city.

Alternatively, just the geometric patterns used for spells could have been known and used prior to now by the existing Arcanists. Summoning Carbuncle (again according to the main site) requires special crystals, so perhaps the import of these crystals wasn't established until after the game went down. Though that wouldn't explain why the Arcanists would have been using staves before when books are definitely the more logical choice given how the class conjures its magic.

At least, that's how I'm going to justify the sudden change unless/until we get an official explanation for it.

Urianger was an arcanist in 1.0. There was another one in the ALC quest, too. They have that steampunk staff that looks a bit like a teapot on a stick.

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Originally Posted by Yrusama

Urianger was an arcanist in 1.0.

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I'd prefer to think of him as a summoner and am praying to the Twelve that he serves as our "mentor" for the job in question.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I'd prefer to think of him as a summoner and am praying to the Twelve that he serves as our "mentor" for the job in question.

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That would be great!

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I didn't talk to many NPCs in Phase 3 since I'm trying to keep things somewhat fresh, but there is a structure in Iron Lake named after Nym. Wonder if that will have any significance.

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If you're referring to the Floating City of Nym which is in Upper La Noscea..something will happen there. Especially since one of the landmarks is 'The hermits hovel' and is a little house with no npc's in it at the moment.

But the floating city itself is just..amazing. Think.. Avatar (blue alien one)

From 1.0:

Dodoroba - "Not a day goes by without at least one vessel attempting to smuggle in some sort of contraband, whether it be illegal herbs, outlawed weapons, or forbidden tomes. It is the duty of the custom-house not only to locate and confiscate those items, but to see to their proper disposal as well. Once the internal assessors have completed their inspection and identified an item as hazardous, the rest is left up to my team to clean up the mess."

Haldberk - "Welcome to Mealvaan's Gate. Hundreds of ships arrive at our docks every year, and to prevent the unlawful import of hazardous materials, we inspect all cargo, crew, and passengers before granting them entry into our fine city. If you arrived via a sea route, then you will have already met one of our upstanding assessors.
Our biggest problem at the moment happens to be accomodating all the frightened smallfolk seeking passage from Eorzea to...well, anywhere."

P'tahjha - "We are always searching for new employees, though we only accept those who exhibit a natural grasp of the arcane arts--a skill essential to the efficient examination of the many ships that frequent Limsa Lominsa.
Though it takes many years of training to become a master arcanist, those who are recognized as possessing the Gift will be accepted into our ranks and trained by the finest mages in Eorzea. Upon completion of the training, the adepts will be accepted into our ranks, and given a position within the custom-house."

From the P'tahjha dialogue you can see it was planned from the beginning to make arcanist playable. Only it came some things in the way, like a re-boot.

I wonder, in that case, if Arcanist will employ Libra as a skill. Being that examining the contents of cargo with magic is their area of expertise. It would suit them, using Libra to identify and distinguish something through magic.

If so, I wonder how that would work in game, if a screen would pop up on your UI to only yourself giving a sneak peak into the vitals of the mob in question, or if every party member would get that same pop up so everyone knows what their looking at.

They don't actually USE Libra as a magic to inspect, they actually use their Carbuncles as sniffing dogs. If you make your way down Maelvaan's Gate you can even see (interrupt, to his great distress) one Arcanist being tested on exactly that task, as well as three others struggling to get the hang of controlling their pets.

Also so you know, which is a thing that comes up in the ALC questline, the arcanist books are important because of the diagrams in them, they're the source of the Arcanist magic. And it can't be ANY book, it needs to be written in magical ink, hence why it's made by alchemists.

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Originally Posted by Akujin

I wonder, in that case, if Arcanist will employ Libra as a skill. Being that examining the contents of cargo with magic is their area of expertise. It would suit them, using Libra to identify and distinguish something through magic.

If so, I wonder how that would work in game, if a screen would pop up on your UI to only yourself giving a sneak peak into the vitals of the mob in question, or if every party member would get that same pop up so everyone knows what their looking at.

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It is plausible that Arcanist could have access to a buff called libra that reveals extra information about the enemy to the caster in question, much like in FFXII.