Sooooo...what do you guys think about the story shown so far?

- Great intro cutscene.
- Seems like there's some ties to the 1.0 story, but looks like most of it is nixed. Lolorito is still a pretty big influence in Ul'dah's story.
- The Echo still exists and is relevant to the story.
- References to past FFs

Biggs, Wedge, Tiny Bronco

- Story ties together really well from going from being recognized in your home city to Minfilia's group recruiting you, to the Grand Companies seeking you out.
- Your character has that feeling of importance like it did going through the 7th Umbral Story.
- Definitely has the "FF feel"

I got through the first few quests of the Lominsan storyline, but after testing some of the core features I decided to hold off until I can play as Moose. So far, I love it. But, I think that with this story's revelations, it is time to accept the undeniable truth:

According to Ancient Aethernaut theory, the development of our current society is the result of visitations upon our ancestors by none other than...

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/...id/Ascians.jpg

What is an Ascian?

And I love the story so far. I'm curious to see what's happening next, but I gotta wait until next week xD

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

What is an Ascian?

And I love the story so far. I'm curious to see what's happening next, but I gotta wait until next week xD

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Shot in the dark, but I think the easiest explanation is that the Ascians are beings of the Void. If we're the Warriors of Light, they are the Warriors of Dark.

Well regarding Ascians, this was revealed from the Level 15 quest:

They are also the Paragons that taught the beastmen how to summon their primals. They are also referred to as the "Bringers of Chaos". So there's your opposite of the Warriors of Light.

Perhaps we'll see Chaos in XIV? :P

And I forgot to check if the two masked hooded men had shadows or not.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I got through the first few quests of the Lominsan storyline, but after testing some of the core features I decided to hold off until I can play as Moose. So far, I love it. But, I think that with this story's revelations, it is time to accept the undeniable truth:

According to Ancient Aethernaut theory, the development of our current society is the result of visitations upon our ancestors by none other than...

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/...id/Ascians.jpg

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You may be closer to the target than you know.

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The ascians discuss returning the world to its "true" form just as Dalamud goes pop.

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I'm holding off on drawing conclusions till I can finish getting through the storylines of the three cities. Taveth has made it to just finishing the Copperbell Mines on the Ul'dah line. Thal will run through Gridania to fill the gaps we missed. I'll let Moose handle Limsa.

I have to say they seem to have made an effort to make it more obvious when we're in an echo, with the edges of the screen blurring and going slightly greyscale.

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Originally Posted by Myranda

I have to say they seem to have made an effort to make it more obvious when we're in an echo, with the edges of the screen blurring and going slightly greyscale.

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I thought that was a nice touch. They also play the music from 1.0 when you were in an Echo cutscene as well.

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Originally Posted by Myranda

I have to say they seem to have made an effort to make it more obvious when we're in an echo, with the edges of the screen blurring and going slightly greyscale.

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Yeah; once you knew how it worked in V1, you were like, "Well, that's a neat mechanism!" but at the same time, "How the hell was anybody supposed to know that before the story was an incoherent mess to them?" Having seen it in ARR, I think it was worth it to sacrifice that one mystery for a lot of clarity.

It was only after I found the lore posts that I even had a clue to what was happening in 1.0.

It kinda feel like a dejavu when Raubahn send us as his envoy to the other GC leader

Anyone else find the reunion with Minfilia a little jarring?

Minfilia: "Well met, friend. My name is Minfilia, and I lead the Scions of the Seventh Dawn."
Then she walks towards you and says, I can only presume the next section in an undertone.
"After five long years... you've come back to us, just as Louisoix said you would... Words cannot describe the joy I feel at this moment. Welcome home. Aye, I remember you still, and everything you fought for. Know that you are not entirely forgotten."

After that, she reverts to what I guess is the normal quest text, and carries on as if she and the Circle of Knowing don't remember you.

There's no indication, other than that she approaches you, that she's whispering or talking in an undertone. Maybe could have done with a different text bubble outline, like the linkshell one used in the Echo scenes at the battle, ore something similar.

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Originally Posted by Mieck

Anyone else find the reunion with Minfilia a little jarring?

Minfilia: "Well met, friend. My name is Minfilia, and I lead the Scions of the Seventh Dawn."
Then she walks towards you and says, I can only presume the next section in an undertone.
"After five long years... you've come back to us, just as Louisoix said you would... Words cannot describe the joy I feel at this moment. Welcome home. Aye, I remember you still, and everything you fought for. Know that you are not entirely forgotten."

After that, she reverts to what I guess is the normal quest text, and carries on as if she and the Circle of Knowing don't remember you.

There's no indication, other than that she approaches you, that she's whispering or talking in an undertone. Maybe could have done with a different text bubble outline, like the linkshell one used in the Echo scenes at the battle, ore something similar.

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I did find it jarring, however...

Voice acting is yet to be properly implemented, so the indication may be found then.

She later apologises for having to treat you like a stranger.

Of course, the text flow could have been handled a little more carefully, but there were possibly some compromises to make for the sake of voice recordings.

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Originally Posted by Mieck

Anyone else find the reunion with Minfilia a little jarring?

Minfilia: "Well met, friend. My name is Minfilia, and I lead the Scions of the Seventh Dawn."
Then she walks towards you and says, I can only presume the next section in an undertone.
"After five long years... you've come back to us, just as Louisoix said you would... Words cannot describe the joy I feel at this moment. Welcome home. Aye, I remember you still, and everything you fought for. Know that you are not entirely forgotten."

After that, she reverts to what I guess is the normal quest text, and carries on as if she and the Circle of Knowing don't remember you.

There's no indication, other than that she approaches you, that she's whispering or talking in an undertone. Maybe could have done with a different text bubble outline, like the linkshell one used in the Echo scenes at the battle, ore something similar.

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This is something I've been wondering about since I got to this point yesterday. Does she also give the "I remember you" speech to new characters? I didn't get this far with my new character from the first phase 3 weekend. It would make the most sense if it was only returning characters that see that, but ever since Thancred told my new character that he was familiar I've been wondering how many of the "I vaguely remember you" are 1.0 specific.




After re-watching the final scene of Living on a Prayer and having Louisoix tell me "If I can but see you to a new future, I should want for nothing more" followed by the End of the Era; the most powerful thing for me in what we have seen of the new story wasn't any speech, conversation, or specific scene. The most powerful thing for me was seeing this:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2929/g50.png

I agree, seeing Louisoix's staff was sort of a shocker, I didn't notice it until after I left the CS.

Welp, now I'm looking forward to two explanations which may or may not be addressed in the future..

1) Why 1.0 adventurers being teleported into the future caused this massive amnesia.
2) Why the Echo jump supposedly works differently now. Although Minfilia describes it the same way as her 1.0 text. But this choice of presentation is to make it more obvious that: "Oh hey, you're looking into the past", rather than potentially confusing players as to what they're actually doing. I do love the glitchy VHS effects in these Echo cutscenes now though.

Also, no mention of "wild rose" being used as the password by the Scions?

Although not many have played the real FF2 so yeah. That could happen.

That and the awesome use of the Final Fantasy II battle theme!

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Also, no mention of "wild rose" being used as the password by the Scions?

Although not many have played the real FF2 so yeah. That could happen.

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I sadly only caught that due to Dissidia :<

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Originally Posted by Skies

I sadly only caught that due to Dissidia :<

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That toooo.