Questing for spells

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02-15-2013, 12:11 PM
Carzilla

Questing for spells

Can we quest for spells instead of just handing them over. after all it is an mmrpg isnt it ?
02-15-2013, 12:15 PM
Seirra_Lanzce

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

Can we quest for spells instead of just handing them over. after all it is an mmrpg isnt it ?

didnt job skills are quest based? :P
02-15-2013, 12:16 PM
Niqote

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

didnt job skills are quest based? :P

^ this

But I see what the OP means, earning things instead of just having you magically know them is more rewarding (not to mention prolongs content)
02-15-2013, 12:17 PM
Rau

Most MMOs have you buying spells, or unlocking them through skill points.
XI is the only instance I've seen where you have to quest for spells.

That being said, I liked that aspect of it.
02-15-2013, 12:19 PM
Laume

To be fair, the mm part of the "mmrpg" has nothing to do with questing for spells. And technically, the rpg doesn't have anything to do with it either. I can quote other mmo's and other ff games to back this up, but it'd just be a waste of time. I wouldn't mind as long as they don't make certain spells as cut-throat to get like utsusemi:ni is/was in ffxi. I do appreciate that we don't have to farm the same mobs for hours to get a spell though.

On second thought... don't we already have that? Blm's and Whm's need to quest to get regen and flare and stuff.
02-15-2013, 12:22 PM
Carzilla

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Originally Posted by Rau

Most MMOs have you buying spells, or unlocking them through skill points.
XI is the only instance I've seen where you have to quest for spells.

That being said, I liked that aspect of it.

that was kind of fun to do.

travelling Far and wide across forrests & deserts in a 3 person group running into WTF mobs. its like going on a treasure hunt and actually finding it. !!
02-15-2013, 12:23 PM
Quesse

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Originally Posted by Rau

Most MMOs have you buying spells, or unlocking them through skill points.
XI is the only instance I've seen where you have to quest for spells.

I don't remember HAVING to quest for spells in XI.

I remember making a tidy profit on farming Blizzaga III with my BST. @200-300k per it was a nice way to get merits.
02-15-2013, 12:24 PM
Carzilla

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Originally Posted by Laume

To be fair, the mm part of the "mmrpg" has nothing to do with questing for spells. And technically, the rpg doesn't have anything to do with it either. I can quote other mmo's and other ff games to back this up, but it'd just be a waste of time. I wouldn't mind as long as they don't make certain spells as cut-throat to get like utsusemi:ni is/was in ffxi. I do appreciate that we don't have to farm the same mobs for hours to get a spell though.

On second thought... don't we already have that? Blm's and Whm's need to quest to get regen and flare and stuff.

nah man those quest were weak sauce & very linear
02-15-2013, 12:25 PM
Rau

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Originally Posted by Quesse

I don't remember HAVING to quest for spells in XI.

I remember making a tidy profit on farming Blizzaga III with my BST. @200-300k per it was a nice way to get merits.

Well you HAD to if you didn't want to pay 300k because you were poor ._.
Aspir/Drain come to mind.
02-15-2013, 12:28 PM
debola

Oooor, we could do it ffx or ffxiii style where you kinda allocate points to stuff on a grid, eventually reaching up to a new spell. Considering its an mmo we could make the points needed to get certain spells or go on certain skill paths really tough so people dont get everything and "customizing" your skill path becomes a thing. Also considering its an mmo and most pple would eventually end up going the "preferred" skill path, we could make the different ways to go have their own exclusive merits, making it very situational and debatable which to choose.
02-15-2013, 12:34 PM
Zenaku

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Originally Posted by Rau

Well you HAD to if you didn't want to pay 300k because you were poor ._.
Aspir/Drain come to mind.

or 1-2mil for ninja shadows -.-
02-15-2013, 12:38 PM
TrystWildkey

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Originally Posted by debola

Oooor, we could do it ffx or ffxiii style where you kinda allocate points to stuff on a grid, eventually reaching up to a new spell. Considering its an mmo we could make the points needed to get certain spells or go on certain skill paths really tough so people dont get everything and "customizing" your skill path becomes a thing. Also considering its an mmo and most pple would eventually end up going the "preferred" skill path, we could make the different ways to go have their own exclusive merits, making it very situational and debatable which to choose.

This idea has been popping up a lot in the forums. I have to say that personally, I support this, or something similar that allows for individual customization.

However, I also have to say that I'm afraid that this kind of system will not be used as it should be. I'm afraid that pressure from end game fanatics/mechanics will cause everyone to 'customize' their character the same way. I just see players not getting party invites unless they have a specific skill set, or specific gear.

Anyway, on to the main topic, I do like the idea of questing for spells. With all the changes they've made to the leveling path, battle system, and pretty much the entire game, I think that we'll have a good mix of different options. Some quested spells/abilities, some that are granted automatically, some given to us in ways we haven't thought of yet :)
02-15-2013, 01:03 PM
Laume

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

nah man those quest were weak sauce & very linear

Ahh, you mean questing for the sake of questing and getting something equally rewarding out of it. Not necessarily questing for skills that are necessary to the job. That's not a bad idea. Maybe like a relic spell? Well, on the other hand, that'd make people segregate each other due to lack of said spell... Maybe not make it as hard as relics? Hmm... this requires more thought.
02-15-2013, 01:12 PM
Carzilla

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Originally Posted by Laume

Ahh, you mean questing for the sake of questing and getting something equally rewarding out of it. Not necessarily questing for skills that are necessary to the job. That's not a bad idea. Maybe like a relic spell? Well, on the other hand, that'd make people segregate each other due to lack of said spell... Maybe not make it as hard as relics? Hmm... this requires more thought.

yeah man we gotta get in there and get lost in eorzea