Battle Regiments Vs SkillChain and Magic Burst

What do you think is better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD4wDvdT58&feature=related

This shows 2 skillchains Fusion to light and also shows a magic burst at the end of the SC
(A skillchain is when you stack weaponskills to make an extra element attack done solo or as a group just had to use your weaponskill and someone else or if you had the TP could solo mulit weaponskills to make the SC , A magic burst was when a spell caster would time the same elemental nuke on the mob at the right time for extra damage or longer enfeeble depending on spell)

Or Battle Regiment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JClEFLLXleY

Witch one do you think is better/more fluid

Hmm... I swear I've seen this topic before... DEJA VU!!!

Skill chains look better, they are funner to do, but if you're saying this game should have a SC system, I'd have to say no.

Combat was a lot slower in XI, and the SC/MB system worked well with that. It doesn't take as long to get TP and spam WS in this game so I don't believe SC/MB is a good alternative.

I believe regimens have the potential to be more liked than even FFXI's SC/MB. The debuffs and increase in damage through chains is actually pretty awesome. I think people would like it a lot more, if when they put in auto-attack your character can still do normal attacks even while your queued for regimen. With that people would feel like they are actually doing something while waiting, and it wouldn't be much different than XI's SC system in terms of waiting. In fact it would be more superior because everyone could join in instead of just 2 melees. Visual effects would also make it more appealing, although many may complain about the lag it may cause.

honestly battle regime. skill chains are hard to set up since you gotta wait till someone has tp. It was also limited in combos. And i thought effects in ffxi was over compensating. BR are a tad easyer to set up. someone start it ppl input any attack they want as part of the chain. and the starter presses the g aka go button. sure there are a few comboes like lancer ws + lancer ws. but thats it. its not like where in ffxi you had use 2 spesific ws. in a certain order. Also add the fact that you had to wait on tp.

Also fyi no one does skill chains and mbs in ffxi anymore. Not because it was useless but just to annoying to set up.

Battle Regimens by far. I like that they add enfeeble/enhancing effects as opposed to just additional damage to mobs. They're also much easier to set up currently, although all of this could change depending on the direction they take the battle system.

Skill chains are nice, but they work with the slower pace of FFXI, which auto-attack or no, is not what they're aiming for with FFXIV.

The problem with SC is that they were intended to be continuous to a degree, but players discovered that anything more complicated than a two-step skillchain was a total pain to set up and easily botched by latency. Cast times and Magic bursts in the end didn't play nice with each other, either.

i agree with everyone here . I really like the BR's , what i dont like is when your idol waiting for people to link up . If thay let you attack wile its qued that would be better by far allowing more people to get what thay want set up

We just need those awesome spell animations lol

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

We just need those awesome spell animations lol

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not really those wre gaudy and caused needless lag.

Battle regimens can be done very quickly so i'mg gonna side with them

I prefer Regimens since you don't need to tell other DDs to hold off on their WSs like you had to in XI.

The only issue with regimens are the lack of animations/status icons to help show if they sticked since you should have more than just the chat log, and the poor keyboard settings for them.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I prefer Regimens since you don't need to tell other DDs to hold off on their WSs like you had to in XI.

The only issue with regimens are the lack of animations/status icons to help show if they sticked since you should have more than just the chat log, and the poor keyboard settings for them.

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I do think there is an icon that shows up. That is according to a few guides on youtube. If you miss obviousely it misses.

I think BR are easier to understand and perform.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

I do think there is an icon that shows up. That is according to a few guides on youtube. If you miss obviousely it misses.

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If you're thinking of what I am that's the pink circle above the target saying a regimen is happened, however I never seen a debuff icon for when a regimen lands unlike other debuffs/DoTs/etc.

There is definitely a debuff icon that shows on the target, just where the other icons like poison, bio, concussive blow, etc. are.

If you're not seeing an icon after a BR, either someone missed, or the combo you're running doesn't create one. I'm not sure if mobs are able to resist BR debuffs, like they can spells, but that's also a possibility.

I'll have to take a look into that later then.

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Originally Posted by Nephera

Battle regimens can be done very quickly so i'mg gonna side with them

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I see this post in practically every BR thread and its a horrible arguement. Yes they CAN be done quickly, and yes doing brs with the same people you group with every day will be easier and more organized. However that doesnt make the system any less flawed. Unless you already know the BR is coming and have people with tp ready and no cooldowns then its horribly slow and akward. I feel brs to be pretty horible currently and the fact that im practically incapable of even attempting one due to being a healer is quite disheartening.

Luckily yoshi realizes the current BR is crap and hopefully will tune it up and create something that isnt so clunky, hopefully having something similar to queueing up a skill and useing skills while you are waiting.

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Originally Posted by Choc

Luckily yoshi realizes the current BR is crap and hopefully will tune it up and create something that isnt so clunky, hopefully having something similar to queueing up a skill and useing skills while you are waiting.

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This. Thank goodness this man (Yoshi) didn't receive his rose-tinted glasses like so many others playing the game.

use can br as a healee just you your normal attack br do not require weapon skills.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

use can br as a healee just you your normal attack br do not require weapon skills.

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The main reason to use Battle regimen would be on nm. Most times im the only mage in the group and on something like the great buffalo I have maybe 1-2 second breaks between heals. I cant afford to be locked into br while my party is dying...thus its just sacrifice III over and over and over with no other skills/spells used.

On other nms I can throw a spirit dart or debuff here and there, but BR is out of the question.

"Battle regiment"?

choc tactfully as a healer you would beed to be the last to lock in so wait time is min. I see no issue with that.