Lodestone: Chocobos Rule The World!!!

I'm gonna put a costume on a chicken and ride it round the garden

GrumbleGrumbleAustraliaGrumbleGrumble

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/59846

No really, they do....the only animal in Final Fantasy that's fun both alive and fried :D

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Originally Posted by Catapult

GrumbleGrumbleAustraliaGrumbleGrumble

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Yeah, what the hell O_O. Seems as usual we just don't exist as far as game makers are concerned.

HEY! SE THERE ARE SOME LOYAL AUSTRALIANS! How about remembering us from time to time.

Have fun France, Spain, Germany & UK.
--The rest of the world.

Seriously, this needs to be changed, it can't be that complicated to add more countries to the contests (bla bla bla legal issues, I know, I don't care about that answer anymore, it's been 2 years+).

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Originally Posted by XyonicS

Yeah, what the hell O_O. Seems as usual we just don't exist as far as game makers are concerned.

HEY! SE THERE ARE SOME LOYAL AUSTRALIANS! How about remembering us from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

GrumbleGrumbleAustraliaGrumbleGrumble

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Happy Australia day tomorrow :)

I'm Aussie too. Wish we could figure out specifically which law(s) is/are getting in SE's way so that we could try to do something about them. Just writing to our politicians saying "rewrite all your competition laws so SE can do their thing!" won't get us very far. And, as usual, all the legalese goes over my head so I can't read the laws myself. Any lawyers playing this game who wouldn't mind doing some research for the excluded countries? It would really help!

Fun contest :D Shame EU doesn't get to participate but looking forward to see what people come up with ^ ^

This is a chance to mix the cosplay contests with this other one... pity I totally lack any artistic skill.

Can I take a picture of a stuffed chocobo that I got as a gift (but obviously they bought it from the SE store) in an odd situation and submit it ?

Indeed they do! Until you roast them. . . .

Pre-congrats to that lady who made that wonderful sculpture. I doubt anyone can trump that.

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Originally Posted by tymora

Pre-congrats to that lady who made that wonderful sculpture. I doubt anyone can trump that.

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!!! That's right! I completely forgot about that thread :eek: She really did a beyond awesome job @_@ Let's just hope she's in NA or Canada (EXCLUDING Quebec :p)

i feel like dressing up one of my alpacas like a chocobo...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MX1yprE_ub...600/alpaca.jpg

That guy who's girlfriend was making that clay chocobo statue should enter (and probably win)!

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Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla

i feel like dressing up one of my alpacas like a chocobo...

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You have actual alpacas?

Like, in your backyard?

Will you marry me?

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Originally Posted by Colino

That guy who's girlfriend was making that clay chocobo statue should enter (and probably win)!



You have actual alpacas?

Like, in your backyard?

Will you marry me?

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While I understand you asked first, bro I want to marry her too.

Soon to be Choco-pacas!

I have my own little project. ^^ Hopefully I'll finish it in time!

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Originally Posted by Colino

That guy who's girlfriend was making that clay chocobo statue should enter (and probably win)!



You have actual alpacas?

Like, in your backyard?

Will you marry me?

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sorry I'm taken but yeh I live on a ranch and we raise Alpacas and miscellaneous critters and our Alpacas are going to be in a super bowl commercial this year =3 our alpacas are the ones in the video x3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqewbxTrBM

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Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla

sorry I'm taken but yeh I live on a ranch and we raise Alpacas and miscellaneous critters and our Alpacas are going to be in a super bowl commercial this year =3 our alpacas are the ones in the video x3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqewbxTrBM

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So floofy. :O

If that chick who made the Chocobo Model is in one of the 'Lucky Countries' she is sure to win.

And +1 to the Aussie angst

I just like when they say "from around the world" and then fine print "Oh but not were you are!"

Lol :D

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

Fun contest :D Shame EU doesn't get to participate but looking forward to see what people come up with ^ ^

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Originally Posted by Gildrein

Prizes:

• 10 winners: FFXIV A Realm Reborn postcard set
  *Prizes will be sent to the address used when registering your Square Enix Account
  *Winners will be selected globally, and there is a chance that entries from North America are not chosen.

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Actually this is a joint competition with the EU contest. So 10 winners between America, Canada (minus Quebec), France, Spain, Germany and the UK.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

GrumbleGrumbleAustraliaGrumbleGrumble

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Anything else in the world and we would be grouped in with the UK... but nooooo.

Oh well... if it were a really nice prize I'd be climbing the wall with upset-ness... but I am not about to blow a fuse about a few postcards

Nophica help them if the in game contests don't include everyone though.

Alpacas, disgusting creatures that spit their own poo at you.

Hey! pretty sure we posted in > Forum Top > English Forums > Community Events > Current Events > “Chocobos Rule the World” Contest! “Chocobos Rule the World” Contest! (EU)

Tricksy Mods...

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Can I take a picture of a stuffed chocobo that I got as a gift (but obviously they bought it from the SE store) in an odd situation and submit it ?

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You could only enter that into the contest if you have hand sewn the chocobo yourself.

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Originally Posted by tymora

Pre-congrats to that lady who made that wonderful sculpture. I doubt anyone can trump that.

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The contest rules were that they would only be able to enter in works if they were created specifically for this contest, so that means they wouldn't be able to enter it.

HA! this thread is linked from the official contest thread as the "discussion" thread.

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Originally Posted by Sasunaich

Greetings, adventurers or Eorzea !

We understand that this contest is exciting news and you would love to discuss about it. However, we would like to ask you to kindly keep this thread for contest entries only and instead discuss about it in this thread.
Thank you very much for your cooperation, understanding and please enjoy the contest :)

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Hmm should I go to KFC and take a pic of a Bargain Bucket?

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

Actually this is a joint competition with the EU contest. So 10 winners between America, Canada (minus Quebec), France, Spain, Germany and the UK.

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It's posted on the JP version as well ^^ though they do not specify how many winners are on that version...
入賞された方には特製ポストカードセットを贈呈します。

So... is it technically 2 prize pools? ...I am really surprised Australia is not included with so many countries in.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

Actually this is a joint competition with the EU contest. So 10 winners between America, Canada (minus Quebec), France, Spain, Germany and the UK.

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My country still not in that list >.<!

Indeed, our posts were moved to General Discussion, it seems.

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Originally Posted by 3Jane

Happy Australia day tomorrow :)

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Some of us call it Invasion Day, since it marks the landing of the first British fleet rather than anything specifically patriotic, such as the date we got our independence, but I digress...

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Originally Posted by mbncd

I'm Aussie too. Wish we could figure out specifically which law(s) is/are getting in SE's way so that we could try to do something about them. Just writing to our politicians saying "rewrite all your competition laws so SE can do their thing!" won't get us very far. And, as usual, all the legalese goes over my head so I can't read the laws myself. Any lawyers playing this game who wouldn't mind doing some research for the excluded countries? It would really help!

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In Australia, lottery and competition law varies by state. However one thing is consistent: if a competition involves a selection by skill, and chance plays no part in the outcome (which is the case in all of SE's competitions to date), no state or territory requires you to get a permit. All that is left is to make sure that you're complying with with ACCC's guidelines on fair trade. For competitions, this involves not misleading the consumer - ie: if you say you're going to issue a prize, you actually issue it.

So then we get to competition terms and conditions, on which my knowledge is... admittedly not complete, but I'll take a stab.

If you're running a competition in Australia, you need to have a business in Australia. Most competitions include in their T&C the entity running the competition, complete with address.
While the company "Square Enix Limited" exists on the Australian Business Register (ABN: 93 464 047 509) they do not have a main business location listed, suggesting that the ABN exists solely for the purpose of business interaction with Australia from a remote location. Personally, I can't see why this would be an issue - just list the UK, JP or US office as the address of the Australian company - but there may be rules on either side of the trade boundary I'm not familiar with here.

Then we get down to the real problem. Is it worth spending the time to nut all this out including paying for legal advice to appease the minority that is Australians? If they're only going to get half a dozen entries... well, you can see where I'm going, as much as it pains me to say it. For many international video game companies, we are more of a pain to be appeased for reputation purposes than a market worth exploiting.

/sigh

One thing to SE's credit - they are letting us enter competitions when there are only digital (no physical) prizes. That is the sort of competition I'd like to see more of.

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•10 winners: FFXIV A Realm Reborn postcard set

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...okay then.
Not sure why this could prevent Australia or Europe from having fun. I mean what's 10 picture sets going to do to them?

Oh good. I misread again.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Invasion Day.

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Well aren't we a negative Nancy? Course we don't have an independence day...the Queen is on our coins isn't she?
At least the rest of your post was on topic and super helpful.

I would have to agree that we should have an increased amount of in game contests versus physical ones. Frankly they are more fun anyway. I'd rather see time spent on improving the in game events also, FFXI had mini games so it would be nice to get some in 2.0 as well.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Indeed, our posts were moved to General Discussion, it seems.


Some of us call it Invasion Day, since it marks the landing of the first British fleet rather than anything specifically patriotic, such as the date we got our independence, but I digress...



In Australia, lottery and competition law varies by state. However one thing is consistent: if a competition involves a selection by skill, and chance plays no part in the outcome (which is the case in all of SE's competitions to date), no state or territory requires you to get a permit. All that is left is to make sure that you're complying with with ACCC's guidelines on fair trade. For competitions, this involves not misleading the consumer - ie: if you say you're going to issue a prize, you actually issue it.

So then we get to competition terms and conditions, on which my knowledge is... admittedly not complete, but I'll take a stab.

If you're running a competition in Australia, you need to have a business in Australia. Most competitions include in their T&C the entity running the competition, complete with address.
While the company "Square Enix Limited" exists on the Australian Business Register (ABN: 93 464 047 509) they do not have a main business location listed, suggesting that the ABN exists solely for the purpose of business interaction with Australia from a remote location. Personally, I can't see why this would be an issue - just list the UK, JP or US office as the address of the Australian company - but there may be rules on either side of the trade boundary I'm not familiar with here.

Then we get down to the real problem. Is it worth spending the time to nut all this out including paying for legal advice to appease the minority that is Australians? If they're only going to get half a dozen entries... well, you can see where I'm going, as much as it pains me to say it. For many international video game companies, we are more of a pain to be appeased for reputation purposes than a market worth exploiting.

/sigh

One thing to SE's credit - they are letting us enter competitions when there are only digital (no physical) prizes. That is the sort of competition I'd like to see more of.

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Thank you very much for clearing so much up there!

I suppose you'd have to work for SE to assign a postal address to their ABN so nothing anyone but SE can really do about that.

The expenses of organising things for each country's legal systems would probably only be one off expenses for each country, compared to the ongoing backlash of the masses not covered by the current 7 countries (England, Spain, France, Germany, US of America, Canada and Japan, that's all of them isn't it?) which may not be so easily remedied. Making large (admittedly maybe not THE largest but still large) groups of people feel overlooked/ignored/discarded on a regular basis leads to poor word of mouth within those groups and we all know that complaints are often overstated while compliments are rarely even whispered, making this a bigger PR problem as a whole.

I'm willing to write a letter to any politician SE wants me to. I'm willing to physically sign any petition to aid their provision of any product/service on these shores. When it comes to SE just not doing their own work though, when they decide their fans here aren't worth the effort to record an address and use one of their many lawyers, that's where I just have to sigh and shake my head...

I'm not an artist. I couldn't even draw a straight line to save my life, it would come out all wobbly (probably even more so if my life really did depend on it XD ). I have no sense of style, nor a way with words, nor the wit to win most of the competitions SE offers. I'm not being a sore loser, because I would never have any hope to win such things anyway and would just be happy watching all entrants submit their amazing works and simply bathing in their beauty and magnificence.

I am however more than a little annoyed and frustrated that the many brilliant artists in the world outside of that mere handful of countries are automatically discounted. That all of their skill, ingenuity and flare for the arts that they would wish to pour into the fandom of SE's own Final Fantasy franchise is deemed inconsequential just because they don't live next door to an SE office... It's disheartening to say the least...

Save up money to hire the best lawyers and march to your government to demand change lol i won't participate cuz i can't do art to save my life xD

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Indeed, our posts were moved to General Discussion, it seems.


Some of us call it Invasion Day, since it marks the landing of the first British fleet rather than anything specifically patriotic, such as the date we got our independence, but I digress...



In Australia, lottery and competition law varies by state. However one thing is consistent: if a competition involves a selection by skill, and chance plays no part in the outcome (which is the case in all of SE's competitions to date), no state or territory requires you to get a permit. All that is left is to make sure that you're complying with with ACCC's guidelines on fair trade. For competitions, this involves not misleading the consumer - ie: if you say you're going to issue a prize, you actually issue it.

So then we get to competition terms and conditions, on which my knowledge is... admittedly not complete, but I'll take a stab.

If you're running a competition in Australia, you need to have a business in Australia. Most competitions include in their T&C the entity running the competition, complete with address.
While the company "Square Enix Limited" exists on the Australian Business Register (ABN: 93 464 047 509) they do not have a main business location listed, suggesting that the ABN exists solely for the purpose of business interaction with Australia from a remote location. Personally, I can't see why this would be an issue - just list the UK, JP or US office as the address of the Australian company - but there may be rules on either side of the trade boundary I'm not familiar with here.

Then we get down to the real problem. Is it worth spending the time to nut all this out including paying for legal advice to appease the minority that is Australians? If they're only going to get half a dozen entries... well, you can see where I'm going, as much as it pains me to say it. For many international video game companies, we are more of a pain to be appeased for reputation purposes than a market worth exploiting.

/sigh

One thing to SE's credit - they are letting us enter competitions when there are only digital (no physical) prizes. That is the sort of competition I'd like to see more of.

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Aboriginie?

Shame third world country of Sweden isn't allowed to participate. Glorious head of state will miss out on precious prize tax.

Umm, I can't find the threads on the chocobo sculptures...

Yeah they're gone. ^^ I think they've been gone for a while. >.>

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Umm, I can't find the threads on the chocobo sculptures...

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I've found the moogle one here but yeah, if looks like the chocobo one is long gone :(