Black Market - Discarded items.

Even though accidental discards arent as much of a problem as they were in the early stages of 1.0, with the addition of a check box confirmation and putting the discard option away from the commonly used repair option, I think it would be cool if discarded items didn't simply vanish from all exsistence.

Instead, they should somehow find their way into the hands of a black market merchant. This special merchant would deal in nothing but items you could have swore you threw away, and sells them at 5 times their vendor price, or really high if it were an un-vendorable item.

Pretty much, this merchant would act as a temporary storage for things you discard and have to pay out the @$$ to get back.

I don't know about this one!!!!

Well it would have been better than being denied by a GM when you accidently discard your Aeolian Scimitar +1 instead of repairing it!!!!



/sadface

The chances or accidental discard instead of repair in 2.0 are slim to none due the the improved UI.

A Qiqirn would totally do this. Exactly as described (charge ridiculous amounts).

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

The chances or accidental discard instead of repair in 2.0 are slim to none due the the improved UI.

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I know the chances of accidental discards are slim, thats why i meantioned it first. But its still good for normal intentional discards. Who knows, you might want to be able to get those items back someday.

If I were a Qiqirn, I would tour Natalan and pick up all the teeth and hides.

Slightly off topic but this functionality could be handled by the same NPC. I would like to see a, perhaps Quiqirn, pawn shop where you could go and hand in any valuable item (including rare and untradeable) and get perhaps 10% of the value as a loan for X amount of days. If you come back to repay the loan in time and with interest you get the item back but if not, the pawn broker will sell it for the full value or perhaps a bit more.

I'm neither for nor against this idea from a gameplay standpoint, but let's be realistic. The reality of this is that the game would now have to remember not only every item we have in our inventories, but every item we've ever dropped from it. That's a crazy amount of unnecessary strain for the actual benefit such a system would have. I'm sorry, guys, but it comes down to: Make sure you no longer want it before you drop it. And as for accidental discards, as everyone has said that's almost a non-issue now.

To be fair it wouldn't have to remember every discard to solve some player woes.... just 5 or 10 would be a good number. The most precious items that you could possibly ever drop would probbably motivate people to go pick them up before dropping that many more items. Possibly also filter out any non Rare/ex items from hitting that discard pool so dropping trash drops you didn't/couldn't take dont push the item out of the pool. All this would have to be clearly explained in the game though to avoid any upset.

It wouldn't have to remember anything a player has in their inventory. All that would change is the discard confirmation (Do you really want to discard it - yes) command wouldn't simply discard it, it would send the item somewhere, to that sneaky black market NPC. That should be the only point data is sent anywhere until you actually go buy it back.

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Originally Posted by Reika

It wouldn't have to remember anything a player has in their inventory. All that would change is the discard confirmation (Do you really want to discard it - yes) command wouldn't simply discard it, it would send the item somewhere, to that sneaky black market NPC. That should be the only point data is sent anywhere until you actually go buy it back.

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I didn't say this black market system would have to remember the contents of our inventories, I said the game would. That is not a change. Of course it knows what's in our inventories, or those things would no longer be in our inventories.

My opinion remains unchanged, however. This feature is totally superfluous, and is not something we'd really benefit from the development team wasting resources on. I'm sorry guys, but just pay attention to what you're throwing away, and don't toss it if you think you might want it later. The latter half should just be common sense, and with confirmation boxes we now have before discard the former half shouldn't be that hard either.

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Originally Posted by Xeia

I didn't say this black market system would have to remember the contents of our inventories, I said the game would. That is not a change. Of course it knows what's in our inventories, or those things would no longer be in our inventories.

My opinion remains unchanged, however. This feature is totally superfluous, and is not something we'd really benefit from the development team wasting resources on. I'm sorry guys, but just pay attention to what you're throwing away, and don't toss it if you think you might want it later. The latter half should just be common sense, and with confirmation boxes we now have before discard the former half shouldn't be that hard either.

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There's that useless 'waste of resources' excuse again....

overruled.

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Originally Posted by Reika

There's that useless 'waste of resources' excuse again....

overruled.

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I've been trying to say this as nicely as possible, but let's try again since you'd rather be catty:

Yes. It is a waste of resources. It's not a useless argument, it's a useless feature, designed to protect people who are stupid enough to throw out items they want. You might get some sympathy if we didn't have a confirmation message when we tossed an item -- but we do. You want protection from losing items that are important to you? Try common sense. Most players have been implementing it for years now with great success in keeping hold of items they want to keep hold of.

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Originally Posted by Xeia

I've been trying to say this as nicely as possible, but let's try again since you'd rather be catty:

Yes. It is a waste of resources. It's not a useless argument, it's a useless feature, designed to protect people who are stupid enough to throw out items they want. You might get some sympathy if we didn't have a confirmation message when we tossed an item -- but we do. You want protection from losing items that are important to you? Try common sense. Most players have been implementing it for years now with great success in keeping hold of items they want to keep hold of.

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I mentioned -at the beginning- that this is not simply about accidental discards.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I mentioned -at the beginning- that this is not simply about accidental discards.

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Right, I forgot to address the side where you really just want a convoluted method of getting more inventory slots.

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Originally Posted by Xeia

Right, I forgot to address the side where you really just want a convoluted method of getting more inventory slots.

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Right, one where you have to pay a high price to withdraw items. I'm sure people will use that as a primary form of storage :/