FFXIV 1.0 Local

One of my favorite movies when I was a kid was the Mel Brooks film "Spaceballs". Today, if I ever feel like watching it, I pop it in and enjoy it (that's what she said).

If I ever feel like revisiting Tolkein's Middle Earth novels, or Neruomancer, Jurrasic Park, Snow Crash, etc. for the zillionth time, I can always pick them up and read 'em again.

If I want to play my favorite video game of all time, Chrono Trigger, I have multiple ways to do it.

Once ARR goes live, I can no longer play through the content of the current FFXIV. By the same token, on the inevitable day the servers of FFXI are shut down for good, that game will no longer be playable.

My question for the development team is, could you consider one last update for FFXIV version 1? This would be an update that allowed the game to be played offline, and would adjust player and/or monster strength as such so all the content of the game can be completed solo.

Yes, this would mean there would probably be zero challenge involved in winning the fights, but I would want it not for the challenge as much as the ability to re-experience the story and world that we've been running around in for the past couple years, and which will soon be gone forever.

It wouldn't be hard to do, right?

I'd rather see this done with FFXI. That'd make a good solo player game to eat up vast amounts of time. Too bad they're still making content for it.

I'm 100% up for this, but I doubt It'll ever happen.

You want to be able to solo Ifrit? I don't understand this at all.

Without party content, what would you really be doing? Leves? Mining? Without the economy of the MW, where would you get other gear? XIV just wouldn't work as a standalone; the game would have to be completely different.

It would have to be completely rebuilt in the form of a console-type, where your "party" would be similar to those of any console FF game. Perhaps it could be the Midlander's pt that joins you.

But still the real difficulty lies in rebuilding the game...which I just dont see happening from a business standpoint.

The same can be said for XI: the game is ten years old and they still won't go back and redo things.

I think the most we can hope for in this scenario is private/fan servers like Ragnarok.

There's another aspect to it: unless I'm mistaken, the game is largely server-side, monster AI, zoning, even things like buying/selling. This would mean they would have to give us the server software and... I really doubt that is going to happen...

I understand the sentiment behind the request but I think this is asking too much of SE.

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Originally Posted by AzuraSin

You want to be able to solo Ifrit? I don't understand this at all.

Without party content, what would you really be doing? Leves? Mining? Without the economy of the MW, where would you get other gear? XIV just wouldn't work as a standalone; the game would have to be completely different.

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If all you care about is gear, then yes. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the main scenario, seventh umbral era/grand company quests, and being able to explore the landmarks of the world.

Watching that stuff on YouTube videos isn't the same.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

There's another aspect to it: unless I'm mistaken, the game is largely server-side, monster AI, zoning, even things like buying/selling. This would mean they would have to give us the server software and... I really doubt that is going to happen...

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Good point.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I understand the sentiment behind the request but I think this is asking too much of SE.

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No it isn't. I gave them a lot of money for this game. And I don't even want to think about how much of my money they got for FFXI. As Joe Dirt once said, "It's not about what you want. It's the consumer."

Why am I getting a feeling of deja vu? Have we had a similar discussion before? :D

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Watching that stuff on YouTube videos isn't the same.

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Well, what I did was record all the cutscenes, so I have my char in all of them. I even have my LS mates in the Darnus CS... that's enough for me.

All you need is MSI afterburner, which is free, and lots of HDD space. Though in the end I converted them to mp4 with meGui, so they don't take that much space in the end.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

No it isn't. I gave them a lot of money for this game. And I don't even want to think about how much of my money they got for FFXI. As Joe Dirt once said, "It's not about what you want. It's the consumer."

Why am I getting a feeling of deja vu? Have we had a similar discussion before? :D

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If you really don't understand why it would be asking too much of SE to basically go back into development on what is essentially a dead game to make it into a stand alone single player game, there is little point in having a conversation with you about the subject. So good luck on your request.

I was about to suggest that. Recording your cutscenes with your character in them. Cause yes, watching other people's characters in the cutscenes on youtube doesn't really hold the same importance or magic :/ Burn them to a playable DVD so that you can watch them; maybe even hire a few friends to do the voice acting for some of the text based cutscenes lol

And quite frankly, it IS asking too much of them to make an offline version. They'd have to convert everything (again) into an offline format, and then integrate how the monsters behave and whatnot into it..something that could take them longer than it took to rebuild ARR.

This scenario for rebuilding has happened once before too: when making XI for the ps3? "We'd rather just make something new." That "new" was XIV.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

If you really don't understand why it would be asking too much of SE to basically go back into development on what is essentially a dead game to make it into a stand alone single player game, there is little point in having a conversation with you about the subject. So good luck on your request.

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So sorry to offend your good senses, sir. >_>

What about opening it up to free server play, like they do with Ragnarok Online or World of Warcraft. The on,y reason they could not do it with Final Fantasy XI was because of Playonline and you neededto atuakky pay for it still.... However, Square Enix did give ProjectXI a cease and desist....

making it free server pretty much giving all of your trade secret to the public
will you do that?

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Originally Posted by rina_inverse

making it free server pretty much giving all of your trade secret to the public
will you do that?

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That's true. But at that point, with the servers down, they will no longer be making any money off the game. So why would they care?

It's like what id has done with Wolfenstein 3D. The game no longer generates revenue for them, so they made it open source. You can download the source code for the game and do whatever you want with it now.

Its not that simple to just throw away something that you spent years to develop, event if its no longer generate incomes to them

anyway, I will just pity you because you miss the oppotunities SE give us and not record the event while you can

It probably wont happen, but making 1.0 open source would be preety dang sweet. That is all.

Also, why is everyone so belittling on these forums?

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Originally Posted by Zoloe

Also, why is everyone so belittling on these forums?

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Bitter from lack of Alpha invites/no XIV to play during the holiday break.

Also I agree, 1.0 being open source would be pretty sweet. Prob never happen though Lol

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Originally Posted by Zoloe

Also, why is everyone so belittling on these forums?

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pretty much this

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

No it isn't. I gave them a lot of money for this game. And I don't even want to think about how much of my money they got for FFXI.

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Turn out that the server is still online up till December 31st
there, you still have your chance to start recording

I have been recording a lot of cutscenes with my char equiped with the free relics just for fun and nostalgia. With all of its problems version 1.0 still looks great graphicaly. Only problem is fraps records game content in gigabites.

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Originally Posted by Allesasi

I have been recording a lot of cutscenes with my char equiped with the free relics just for fun and nostalgia. With all of its problems version 1.0 still looks great graphicaly. Only problem is fraps records game content in gigabites.

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nothing meGUI can't handle... you just need time. x264 gets you to about 1/4th of the original size without noticeable loss in quality and even if you have no idea about encoding, there are presets for everything.

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Originally Posted by rina_inverse

Turn out that the server is still online up till December 31st
there, you still have your chance to start recording

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Except I don't, because I logged on just now and I'm the only one around. That makes it impossible for me to do pretty much anything.

So, you server admins, lemme ask you this.

1.X is shut down for good in two weeks? Where's the harm in turning on GM mode for all players until then? Give us free reign to go wherever we please and do whatever we want.

Because honestly, if you aren't gonna do that, you might as well shut them down now and save yourself some cash, because there's no reason for the servers to be available currently.

I'd be content with just being able to walk around single player, just simply for nostalgia. I highly doubt that would take much work. There are other games that do this simply for playing single player that aren't MMOs. They run the server application in a separate process that's built into the launcher and therefore transparent. The 1.0 servers already unload areas that have no people in them to reduce server load (this is why you can die to something and come back like 10 mins later and its hp hasn't regenned if you didn't get near it) so it should be able to manage running in the background.

I think anything beyond what I'm suggesting would probably be an extreme amount of work load for the developers so I don't see it happening. They are already highly overworked. It could be something they could implement after 2.0 settles in, but it's most likely not going to happen, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

1.X is shut down for good in two weeks? Where's the harm in turning on GM mode for all players until then? Give us free reign to go wherever we please and do whatever we want.

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I do 100% agree with this though, they should have done this when the servers came back up after the save, or after Dalamud "landed."

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Originally Posted by Velera

I'd be content with just being able to walk around single player, just simply for nostalgia.

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That's what I'm talkin' about. Let us, as they say, enjoy our "last chance at adventure before the realm is reborn".

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Except I don't, because I logged on just now and I'm the only one around. That makes it impossible for me to do pretty much anything.

So, you server admins, lemme ask you this.

1.X is shut down for good in two weeks? Where's the harm in turning on GM mode for all players until then? Give us free reign to go wherever we please and do whatever we want.

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Let see, if Im the server admin, I will pass this request to system admin (cause server admin have no privilage in this) while muttering myself "what the hell is GM mode???"
The system admin himself will reply "What the hell is GM Mode???"
Because really, theres no such a thing as GM mode. GM privilage is limited to walk through wall
So theres no such a thing as GM mode, will they make one for you?
Considering 1.0 no longer generate income, why should they?

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Because honestly, if you aren't gonna do that, you might as well shut them down now and save yourself some cash, because there's no reason for the servers to be available currently.

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The reason the server still up is because some player ask SE to keep it up. Im not gonna say "I told you so" to you because I dont know whether you request this or not

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Originally Posted by rina_inverse

...the usual poorly written, condescending dreck from Rina...

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I'm talking about "god mode", "invincibility"...call it what you will. Since the servers are now for all intents and purposes deserted, the meaningful content is inaccessible. If we aren't able to do everything in the game by ourselves right now, there's no reason for the servers to remain online for the next two weeks, unless you're really into running around an empty Ul'dah shouting at no one.

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Originally Posted by rina_inverse

Let see, if Im the server admin, I will pass this request to system admin (cause server admin have no privilage in this) while muttering myself "what the hell is GM mode???"

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I don't mean to burst your bubble but anyone with any sort of common (uncommon?) sense in relation to online games would know what the vaguely described "GM Mode" would be; temporarily max stats, a permanent invulnerability, etc. They're Japanese, that doesn't make them any less intelligent than you are, and the fact that you are insinuating thus is actually kind of insulting.

Relax and stop the RAGE. These are just suggestions, not commands, orders or directives. Make a cup of tea or something and add some constructive criticism to the conversation instead of incessant bashing and negative retort to the OP.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

1.X is shut down for good in two weeks? Where's the harm in turning on GM mode for all players until then? Give us free reign to go wherever we please and do whatever we want.

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Some people can't handle GM power, it may end up like this:
Warning SAO spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-_WoAFlB0

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I'm talking about "god mode", "invincibility"...call it what you will. Since the servers are now for all intents and purposes deserted, the meaningful content is inaccessible. If we aren't able to do everything in the game by ourselves right now, there's no reason for the servers to remain online for the next two weeks, unless you're really into running around an empty Ul'dah shouting at no one.

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how rude.. you can always tldr my post...
anyway, have we ever witnessed this so called "god mode"? has there any GM suddenly jump from no where to an almost wipe Ifrit party and suddenly pull it? because all I know, GM only action is to retrieve character that stuck in some weird zone
Yes, we once have GM-played Urianger, coming to town and camp spamming buff. but none of those buff act as "Invincibility". In fact, those buff is an in game buff (like regen, increase max HP and all)
So you want SE to create something that doesnt exist, only to be use for another 2 weeks, for nothing?
That from skill/character aspect
We still have dungeon/battle aspect
Dungeons and battle spefically designed for party. there is no solo content for dungeons and battle. Again SE need to create something that doesnt exist, only to be use for another 2 weeks, for nothing?

Last, why did SE keep the server up even with ZERO player? IMO, they have a promise, and they try to keep that promise. My hat off for you, SE management

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Originally Posted by Velera

I don't mean to burst your bubble but anyone with any sort of common (uncommon?) sense in relation to online games would know what the vaguely described "GM Mode" would be; temporarily max stats, a permanent invulnerability, etc. They're Japanese, that doesn't make them any less intelligent than you are, and the fact that you are insinuating thus is actually kind of insulting.

Relax and stop the RAGE. These are just suggestions, not commands, orders or directives. Make a cup of tea or something and add some constructive criticism to the conversation instead of incessant bashing and negative retort to the OP.

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People really need to upgrade their sarcasm meter, because all my post filled with them

aaand this is why my post count is <10, farewell thread ('-')/

Would be neat to see it done, but I don't expect SE to ever assign resources to do this. It's probably more work than you think.

lol go create your own server then.

I'm hosting a 1.0 event in Balmung in about 30 mins, anyone want to come?