Hoods?

Did they say at all at launch they were going to implement hoods, and be able to turn them on or off? I know they already had a toggle head gear on/off function, but for example the WHM AF, I think they said they were going to make the hood optional as well as other armor/clothing etc. Anyone know?

All I recall about this is that they mentioned that with armor that has hoods, we'll be able to put them up or down (and also we'll actually see our hair under the hood iirc). Haven't heard about a /display hood off or whatnot

think it might be an offshoot of /display head off, no need for two commands that do the same thing. But then some might like hoods but not headgear or visa versa. Other then that, I really haven't heard much about hoods yet. Be nice to see as I'm one the generally avoids hooded cloaks cause I find the hood unappealing.

Ok thanks for the replies ^^ I love the hoods and feel the WHM AF for example looks 10x's better with the hood on, very traditional ;) But hopefully this will be implemented at the start of ARR., since I wouldn't think it would be TOO difficult to create.

They need to make cowls, better.

In terms of playing black mage, why would you ever wear a cowl. You can put Intelligence materia into a hat and make it really damn good. With a cowl you lose the hat slot. You can't make the cowl as good as a hat.

So I think cowls should not be attached to the robe. It should be it's own item that can be attached to the robe, this way using a cowl is more plausible.

Cause sometime I do want to wear a hooded robe, but stats keep me from doing so.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

They need to make cowls, better.

In terms of playing black mage, why would you ever wear a cowl. You can put Intelligence materia into a hat and make it really damn good. With a cowl you lose the hat slot. You can't make the cowl as good as a hat.

So I think cowls should not be attached to the robe. It should be it's own item that can be attached to the robe, this way using a cowl is more plausible.

Cause sometime I do want to wear a hooded robe, but stats keep me from doing so.

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I agree. They could make the cowl that drapes over the shoulders and robe, yet separate from the robe and removable. They have this fancy tech for doing this very thing with gear so why didn't they do just that? The mind boggles.

Aren't all the cowl robe designs actually not attached to the robe visually? It looks like it's own piece.

The cowl+materia balancing issue is a bit tricky, and it does need to be reworked for ARR.

I could see several paths here:

• Allow at least 2 materia to be melded to the item at 100% - might be less intuitive for beginners though
• Split cowl and hood into two items - this would cause problems with existing cowls that are melded.
• Give Cowls a strong default stat boos to compensate for lack of headgear - Easiest and least disruptive fix, but long term balancing issues may arise
• Change Cowls to be 'hooded robes' - Allow players with cowls to wear other headgear (see WHM AF)
• Discontinue cowl recipes in ARR - Existing cowls follow same path as dated items, become untradable.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

They need to make cowls, better.

In terms of playing black mage, why would you ever wear a cowl. You can put Intelligence materia into a hat and make it really damn good. With a cowl you lose the hat slot. You can't make the cowl as good as a hat.

So I think cowls should not be attached to the robe. It should be it's own item that can be attached to the robe, this way using a cowl is more plausible.

Cause sometime I do want to wear a hooded robe, but stats keep me from doing so.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I agree. They could make the cowl that drapes over the shoulders and robe, yet separate from the robe and removable. They have this fancy tech for doing this very thing with gear so why didn't they do just that? The mind boggles.

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O_O... I would love to see cloaks/cowls over armor... thats so sexy and realistic (half my brain hears realism and faps.. lol)

Perhaps make a cape / armor accessory slot. That way its not like everyone needs to wear one. Can wear other things in that slot instead, like capes or chest harnesses (a sling across the chest) and similar 'armor' accessories.

(Suppose they could have an on/off for self accessory slot option.. - not my favorite path.. but w.e they already said they will be adding a sort of vanity system so the fight for me is lost lol)

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Ok thanks for the replies ^^ I love the hoods and feel the WHM AF for example looks 10x's better with the hood on, very traditional ;) But hopefully this will be implemented at the start of ARR., since I wouldn't think it would be TOO difficult to create.

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I liked the way the whm AF hoods were in XI, and I'm hoping they will do something with hoods in the future, but to be honest with all the work SE has ahead of them (finishing up alpha, starting pc beta, then ps3 beta, while still transferring data over from 1.0) I dont think they will have any options at launch. Maybe somewhere after release.

Yoshi said in an early interview that he would try to make hoods raisable/lowerable when it was first asked.. and later on when the question surfaced again he said that it was too technically difficult to make hoods able to be raised and lowered. When players pointed out the WHM concept art with hoods up and down he said that it was just to show the modellers how it looked, and not representative of actual gameplay.

So no, I wouldn't expect this to happen. Hoods will be static.

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

Yoshi said in an early interview that he would try to make hoods raisable/lowerable when it was first asked.. and later on when the question surfaced again he said that it was too technically difficult to make hoods able to be raised and lowered. When players pointed out the WHM concept art with hoods up and down he said that it was just to show the modellers how it looked, and not representative of actual gameplay.

So no, I wouldn't expect this to happen. Hoods will be static.

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How is it technically difficult? If it is too difficult then the default should always be hood down NOT hood up.
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Originally Posted by Kerwin

I liked the way the whm AF hoods were in XI, and I'm hoping they will do something with hoods in the future, but to be honest with all the work SE has ahead of them (finishing up alpha, starting pc beta, then ps3 beta, while still transferring data over from 1.0) I dont think they will have any options at launch. Maybe somewhere after release.

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Originally Posted by Thebard

How is it technically difficult? If it is too difficult then the default should always be hood down NOT hood up.

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Probably because it would require two different models of everything with a hood (a hood up version and a hood down version). I don't know much about the technical specifics but that might have something to do with it.

And the default for the WHM robe IS hood down, so I'm not sure I follow on that last part. If you mean that all hoods on all gear should never be worn on the head well...why? A lot of people like the look. Mysterious cloaks, dark robes, etc.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

They need to make cowls, better.

In terms of playing black mage, why would you ever wear a cowl. You can put Intelligence materia into a hat and make it really damn good. With a cowl you lose the hat slot. You can't make the cowl as good as a hat.

So I think cowls should not be attached to the robe. It should be it's own item that can be attached to the robe, this way using a cowl is more plausible.

Cause sometime I do want to wear a hooded robe, but stats keep me from doing so.

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Circlet + Cowl = Problem Solved.
I support you.

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Originally Posted by AzuraSin

Circlet + Cowl = Problem Solved.
I support you.

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Circlet + Hood ;)

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Originally Posted by Thebard

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fixed it for you.

Yea the thing is lot's hate hoods up, lot's hate hoods down, if it's possible they should do it so we have options. Also if people are concerned about cowls not being upgradable with separate hats, then crowns/tiaras/headbands etc. should be allowed to be worn with hoods(either up or down) and there you go, problem solved :D

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Did they say at all at launch they were going to implement hoods, and be able to turn them on or off? I know they already had a toggle head gear on/off function, but for example the WHM AF, I think they said they were going to make the hood optional as well as other armor/clothing etc. Anyone know?

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i heard that sadly hood wont be allow to do this but mask and such would. So whm and such wont be allow to put there hood up and down sadly :(

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

i heard that sadly hood wont be allow to do this but mask and such would. So whm and such wont be allow to put there hood up and down sadly :(

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Yea unfortunately I think I remember reading the same thing :'( WHM just always looked so bad ass with the hood, I can stand it down with that silver crown(made a rhyme :P), its ALWAYS been worn UP...ehhh :\

I will need to go find it, but I recall Yoshi recently saying Visors will go up and down but Hoods will remain static.
I only remember the sad that I felt.

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It was from the live letter VI. So he specifically only said WHM (still sad) ...for others maybe

Q23: During the previous Producer Letter Live, you showed us artwork for the upcoming PvP gear and some of the artwork had the open face. Will we be able lift the visor for the warrior artifact helmet or put on the hood up for the white mage artifact armor?

A23: You will be able to lift the visor for the warrior helmet, but unfortunately, you won’t be able to put on the hood for the white mage armor.

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Yea unfortunately I think I remember reading the same thing :'( WHM just always looked so bad ass with the hood, I can stand it down with that silver crown(made a rhyme :P), its ALWAYS been worn UP...ehhh :\

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Agree :( i unlock full whm just so i can do that one day. I think there reason was due to head gear. If the hood goes up then you can't wear one and w/e. But i mean they could just allow us to put it up without taking off the headgear.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I will need to go find it, but I recall Yoshi recently saying Visors will go up and down but Hoods will remain static.
I only remember the sad that I felt.

edit:
It was from the live letter VI. So he specifically only said WHM (still sad) ...for others maybe

Q23: During the previous Producer Letter Live, you showed us artwork for the upcoming PvP gear and some of the artwork had the open face. Will we be able lift the visor for the warrior artifact helmet or put on the hood up for the white mage artifact armor?

A23: You will be able to lift the visor for the warrior helmet, but unfortunately, you won’t be able to put on the hood for the white mage armor.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Agree :( i unlock full whm just so i can do that one day. I think there reason was due to head gear. If the hood goes up then you can't wear one and w/e. But i mean they could just allow us to put it up without taking off the headgear.

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I can see it happening at some point. Hood goes up, and the hat is no longer displayed. Hood goes back down, and the hat is displayed. Maybe they can get it so things like the White Mage circlet still show up. It's sort of like how Sarouel are poofy until you put on thigh-high boots.

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Did they say at all at launch they were going to implement hoods, and be able to turn them on or off? I know they already had a toggle head gear on/off function, but for example the WHM AF, I think they said they were going to make the hood optional as well as other armor/clothing etc. Anyone know?

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Visors yes, hoods no.

The design of the whm body model prevents it from being pulled over. Visors are much simpler to animate as well.

I read that the WAR helmet face mask could go up and down but the WHM COULD NOT have their hood up. Not sure if that goes for all hooded garments or just WHM AF, but it'd be cool to see some hoods show up for BRD/ARC.

And since Arcanist is coming in 2.0, what do we use to abbreviate the name? ARC is already taken xD

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

I read that the WAR helmet face mask could go up and down but the WHM COULD NOT have their hood up. Not sure if that goes for all hooded garments or just WHM AF, but it'd be cool to see some hoods show up for BRD/ARC.

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Sadly... the reasoning behind it makes it pretty likely that this refers to all hoods. Seems like it'd actually be more work to go the other way with cloaks that take up the head slot as well :(. If you can put the hood down that means it shouldn't take up the headslot and that means reworking the restrictions on the item and then of course rebalancing the stats so it isn't overpowered (since an item like that normally has stats equal to an equivalent body AND head piece together).

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

And since Arcanist is coming in 2.0, what do we use to abbreviate the name? ARC is already taken xD

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ACN! ^^

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

I read that the WAR helmet face mask could go up and down but the WHM COULD NOT have their hood up. Not sure if that goes for all hooded garments or just WHM AF, but it'd be cool to see some hoods show up for BRD/ARC.

And since Arcanist is coming in 2.0, what do we use to abbreviate the name? ARC is already taken xD

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ARN or ACN as far as I know

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Originally Posted by Bowen

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Haha this literally made me Lol :p