Just hearing that Battle theme that someone recently posted Just gets me pumped up for the game. Of course there are the little things to a person Like for me from Greatest to least it's:
1) Music
2) Storyline
3) Graphics (styled Preferred)
4) Gameplay
Music my eye catcher to get hooked onto a game the most, of course the whole game itself needs to be at least average, but the thing that catches your eye the most needs to be at the top of it's game in order for a person to be "truly" hooked onto a game. Music is my eye catcher. What's yours?
First Impressions are always key into anything in order for that something to succeed.
Do you think SE Videos make a good impression?
First Impressions are key!
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12-09-2012, 04:36 AMStarlordFirst Impressions are key!
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12-09-2012, 05:16 AMRadacci
i think graphics and gameplay is close. an ugly game is usually a boring game. then comes story, then music. cause games without any fun story is also boring. If music is bad, you need to turn it off, which is boring. Music is what can make a scene really epic, or ruin it, so it's important.
But i guess gameplay is most important, if it doesn't look like any fun action, or to generic, i probably wont even bother playing.
Like earlier i saw some cool armor designs for Atlantica Online. and i was like...wanna check the game out...Checked YT char creator video...ugly. checked ICON of gameplay...ugly and boring -.-
FFXIV graphics are nice, music is nice, lancer fight looked more fun than 1.0. story gonna be good i suppose. so i'm looking forward to it :)
But well...no. the alpha videos doesn't make a good impression yet. but it doesn't matter. it's obviously gonna be more fun to play, than to watch someone walking around randomly, doing annoying things :) -
12-09-2012, 05:24 AMRalosI'm gonna be "that guy" for a moment and point out that music can't actually catch your eye =P (unless your eyes have ears or some weird crap like that)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
But seriously, I personally look for balance from the 4 main criteria you posted: Music, Storyline, Graphics, Gameplay
In a regular game I have a high preference for story line but in an MMO it shifts a bit because the story line only lasts until you beat it, so the content and gameplay has to keep me interested in order to keep playing. Graphics are usually the lowest on my list, I can get by with playing something that isn't pretty as long as it's fun.
Music tends to be in a department on it's own separate from the other categories for me because I judge it differently. I can't really explain it but music is definitely a factor in how much I enjoy a game because it adds to the immersion of being in another "world" so-to-speak more than most other aspects of the game.
As for the SE videos released so far, I've remained very open minded about them because, as we've said it's alpha right now, and because it's hard to really get a feeling for it without experiencing it myself. That said, I've enjoyed the videos so far and I think they're doing a great job with the game, so the "first impression" as it were, has been a good one. -
12-09-2012, 05:33 AMStarlordI agree with everything you posted! To me whatever ranks top is usually a League on it's own. When you go look for a game You look for key points in what interests you. Of Course it will vary between person to person. What one person my like, another person can hate it. As long as the game's key points are Average people will at least look into it. But out of those Averages, the one that stands out the most to you, will be the mostly likely game you will get for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralos
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12-09-2012, 05:38 AMRudyFails
I have samezies... Wasn't totally blown away at all, but at the same time I wasn't really expecting to be. But that's probably because of playing 1.0 and following it this far. I did show one of my friends who didn't really play 1.0 at all and he thought it looked pretty cool and sounds pretty interested. Depends on the person I guess.
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12-09-2012, 05:55 AMRadacciI'm gonna be "that guy" for a moment and point out there's cameras that translate pictures to sounds, that blind people can "See"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralos
Or a chip on the tongue that has many small points, that pinch the tongue, to create a mental image.
So you can "crosswire" senses.
And theoretically speaking hearing sounds can make you see things ;) -
12-09-2012, 06:19 AMNayto
For me main priority would be Graphics... or more specifically: setting/layout design. One thing I really missed in XIV is the sort of lack of uniqueness of each area. When I first went to shopshea I thought it was a pretty cool dungeon with mysterious flame embers looming about. Then I went to that other one near bald knoli and found out it pretty much copypasted it. :\ It looks like that most of the zones so far seem pretty unique and eye catching. For an MMO you'd want to make the journey to discover the fast travel point at least memorable.
Second would be gameplay because people on kotaku and what not got bored of CGI trailers and wants to see how games active. So far they're not making a good impression in this criteria (You can see it everywhere on these boards :\). But it's unfortunate because, well, 'it's alpha'. The battlesystems are probably still in development seperately behind the scenes and people really want to see that/make sure it gets done right.
And number 3 is just community/friends that play. :P
Sometimes i like to imagine cutscenes/montages/etc. following the music, so yeah you can see/imagine some things when you listen to music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radacci
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12-09-2012, 06:32 AMTicks
If I hear good music that appeals to me at the very start of the game - I will have a positive outlook going into it. I've watched tv shows and movies just because the opening music was cool. That's what gets my foot in the door.
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12-09-2012, 06:47 AMNuru
Some crappy games have great music. If that is the case, there's always the OST that stands alone, and you dont really have to play through the game :P
Gameplay comes first for me. If it's playable, and urges me to want to play everyday, then the game itself has pretty well on its own. Story would come next. Now, I'm all for playability, but when you also have a great story, you get people like me that wont want to stop playing because the story is just so damn great. A good story reminds me that I hate sleeping, and if I can be reminded that Games > Sleep, then good job!
Now for music and graphics.. I would have to say Music is more important to me. Music and graohice will always be something that doesn't really change all of the time, not like the Story or gameplay. Music you can get bored of, and graphics will always be the same. I take a strong interest in music though, and it is something additional I enjoy in my choices of video games. :)
As for Graphics, they don't matter to me all too much. I'd rather have a game that provides me with as much playability and content to last me for a very long time rather than have a pretty game to play for about a week. FFXIII and FFXIII-2 had a great balance with having great graphics and a lot of content. Also, the music for FFXIII and XIII-2 was just great! FFXIII story was awesome! FFXIII-2 i feel the story could have been much better, or at least how the sequence was. Time travel is hard to build a story around, which is why Back to the Future always fascinates me. :P
1.21 GIGWATTS! -
12-09-2012, 07:17 AMAlhanelem
The videos are great. People (mostly NA people) are nitpicking the hell out of everything, but in all actuality, everything has been done pretty well so far.
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12-09-2012, 08:47 AMRalosThat's actually pretty cool. I learn something new every day =DQuote:
Originally Posted by Radacci
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12-09-2012, 09:31 AMAlmalexiaWhat do you mean by gameplay? What does anyone mean by gameplay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
Absent an unambiguous definition, why would anyone put "gameplay" as the least important element of a game? "Gameplay" is the only thing that separates games from other (multi)media. "Gameplay" is paramount.
You could have no music, a nonexistent story and primitive graphics but still have a great and successful game by virtue of "gameplay" alone. In fact, I think that's how this whole games business got started! -
12-09-2012, 10:00 AMStarlordThey are all important, but what catches my eyes (and ears) are music. of Course I want the gameplay to be decent. but if the music isn't there I may not play the game. I need my awesome musicQuote:
Originally Posted by Almalexia
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12-09-2012, 10:35 AMAlmalexia
Well!
I had this big argument ready, but about halfway through I realized I couldn't think of a bad game that had good music. Plenty of the inverse, sure, but... I mean, I can't say you're wrong, even though it sounds like you are on the face of it.
I just can't offer a counterexample. I don't think there is one, so, yeah. Fine. Whatever!
You're not not wrong to hold that position by virtue of not being not right.
Edit: FFXIII. Ha!
Edit2: On the other hand, Jesper Kyd didn't compose for Assassin's Creed 3 and that was a big disappointment. -
12-09-2012, 11:26 AMStarlordSazh: "Whaaaaaaat?" ( Actual line)Quote:
Originally Posted by Almalexia
Don't mess with the fro yo! He's my favorite chara from that game =) -
12-09-2012, 01:21 PMAlexNiculaie
Music is pretty low on my scale, as I can always turn the sound down, or off. So I think I'd switch gameplay and music on that list, for myself. However, good music does enhance the experience, for sure.
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12-09-2012, 01:44 PMJinrya-Geki
Storyline & gameplay rank number one for me. Then Music and Graphics.
This is why I am able to play Xenogears over and over again, because it's story and battle system is awesome. So is the music, and look how dated the graphics are.
Now with FFXIII all it has is graphics, it's story is excessively linear. The battle system is garbage with that terrible teammate AI. It's music, is subaverage, couldn't stand that they repeated the same , song like 8 to 10 times with different instruments. For that reason I can't even beat the game, even though I am apparently at the bridge just before the final boss.
So when it comes to FFXIV, I'd rather them work on story, gameplay, and music. Well before they even touch the graphics. Cause too me they don't matter. -
12-09-2012, 03:48 PMXatsh
I would put it in this order for me:
50% Content
30% Gameplay
15% Graphics
5% Music
If the content is bad it does not matter how good anything else is. The game has to draw you in with a well developed story, the game has to have content for all play styles, and the game has to have enough content that you cannot finish it before they add more.
Gameplay: The controls should make sense, things should be developed for ease of use for the players. If something is cumbersome it becomes the focus instead of the content you are playing through. The battle system should flow, should be engaging. Bad gameplay will ruin a game with awesome content/story.
Graphics: If the game looks like crap I do not feel I should have to pay for it. It is one of my main problem with cartoony or Stylized (which apparently what they call crap graphics in the industry these days) mmos. I just feel like I am playing something from a past era, something that should not be released in this era. Some people do not mind, but a mmo with horrible or cartoony graphics will make me walk the other way unless it is just ungodly good (which non have been in my eyes yet). Graphics does not make a good game, but it does make a subpar one.
Music: Music draws you in the first few times, then you end up muting the game or talking on TS and not paying attention. A crap score can be a negative, but a great score will not make the game. -
12-09-2012, 08:47 PMRadaccigameplay is many things i guess. control, atmosphere, all those big and small things that make the game fun to play; that don't fit into graphics/music/Story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almalexia
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12-09-2012, 09:05 PMNuruMaybe you don't think of FFXIII this way, but there is a crowd that doesn't like FFXIII or FFXIII-2 but still love the music. What it all boils down to is that everyone has their own tastes and their own opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almalexia