Tower Defense? MOBA? In my XIV?

After the game is all polished and looking spiffy, I think a great way to attract some players and a great way to have fun would be a Tower Defense (PVE) and Moba (PVP) style games in FFXIV.


It'd be easy to do the maps.


For Tower Defense? You use a menu to go around hiring Mercenaries (Goblins, Sell swords) and whatever who stay in a small area and attack anything nearby. While waves of monsters run through trying to get to the end, and you and your party can even join the fray and attack along side your mercenaries, Standard Tower Defense mechanics would be easy to introduce also (Immune to physical, Weak to Magical) Winning would give you an ingame currency you pile up to buy some unique PVE items.



For Moba?
Have a map designed in the standard three lane structure, have monsters for buffs hidden throughout the woodland (Jungle) areas, and some areas (Like Grass but not grass maybe little pads where you turn invisible or something) that act as the standard hide in the Moba grass so no one sees you. Have creeps running down the lanes to turrets (I'm sure the XIV team would give everything a cool name XD)

Honestly it could be done just about any way, They could do it where you use your normal characters and you get stat increases ontop of your usual when you get EXP and level up. Or they could make it like a traditional moba and everyone starts out at level 1. They could even have an item shop to buy item builds like a normal moba or not. I think it'd be a fun PVP game to play inside XIV. :3


Come on you know that'd get players those Moba games are all the rage right now, and tower defense, who hasn't played one in the last two years?

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Originally Posted by Endigiont

After the game is all polished and looking spiffy, I think a great way to attract some players and a great way to have fun would be a Tower Defense (PVE) and Moba (PVP) style games in FFXIV.


It'd be easy to do the maps.


For Tower Defense? You use a menu to go around hiring Mercenaries (Goblins, Sell swords) and whatever who stay in a small area and attack anything nearby. While waves of monsters run through trying to get to the end, and you and your party can even join the fray and attack along side your mercenaries, Standard Tower Defense mechanics would be easy to introduce also (Immune to physical, Weak to Magical) Winning would give you an ingame currency you pile up to buy some unique PVE items.



For Moba?
Have a map designed in the standard three lane structure, have monsters for buffs hidden throughout the woodland (Jungle) areas, and some areas (Like Grass but not grass maybe little pads where you turn invisible or something) that act as the standard hide in the Moba grass so no one sees you. Have creeps running down the lanes to turrets (I'm sure the XIV team would give everything a cool name XD)

Honestly it could be done just about any way, They could do it where you use your normal characters and you get stat increases ontop of your usual when you get EXP and level up. Or they could make it like a traditional moba and everyone starts out at level 1. They could even have an item shop to buy item builds like a normal moba or not. I think it'd be a fun PVP game to play inside XIV. :3


Come on you know that'd get players those Moba games are all the rage right now, and tower defense, who hasn't played one in the last two years?

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did my joke response in another thread spark this? oO lol. hell id be for it down the road i love MOBA's and TD games

It did, but I've been thinking about it for awhile, it'd be relatively easy to implement, and give players alot of fun. As long as they learned to give rewards for such things, Something they didn't learn from Brenner, Ballista, or that monster battling thing Pankration.

Hamlet Defense.

DRG = Deeps Top
ARC = AD carry
BLM = AP middle
WAR = Jungle
WHM = Support

Doable but no XD.

I forgot why I gave up with these forums, thanks for reminding me :)

Or they could just buy Crystal Defenders and play on the PSP or something while waiting for partyfinder to kick in.

V And that's why you don't suggest tower defense for XIV... since SE has never made a good Tower Defense minigame. :\

I have crystal defenders it sucks.

Having a tower defense as a feature in a game usually turns out as shit. However, a tower defense game alone like LoL can actually get it right, even though some of the characters in that game are just op. :P

Why stop there?

Let's get SC2 in FFXIV too. And some Blops2.

I like the idea and think it could definitely be done. It's just, you have people who have never actually played these games bashing the idea because, well...I guess it's a cool thing to do.

But it definitely would induce teamwork.

In Smite, you have to attack a Minotaur to win the game, in XIV, you could be defending a primal or maybe some lesser summon to prevent yourself from losing.

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

I like the idea and think it could definitely be done. It's just, you have people who have never actually played these games bashing the idea because, well...I guess it's a cool thing to do.

But it definitely would induce teamwork.

In Smite, you have to attack a Minotaur to win the game, in XIV, you could be defending a primal or maybe some lesser summon to prevent yourself from losing.

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No, I've certainly played tower defense games, and even the feature in WoW. There is a big difference in having this as a game itself, and just a feature added into an MMORPG.

WHAT'S THAT?

MINIGAMES?

NOT IN MY FINAL FANTASY!

Someone already said it, but

Hamlet Defense

While we're add it, let's add Tetra Master too. Why does every mini game have to be about fighting! Viva la TCGs!

a dota-type PvP area would be kinda cool. Would probably have to be adapted to full parties instead of 5s though.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

WHAT'S THAT?

MINIGAMES?

NOT IN MY FINAL FANTASY!

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HAHAHAHAHAAA Right?

I like to see more of that yea be nice to add stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

No, I've certainly played tower defense games, and even the feature in WoW. There is a big difference in having this as a game itself, and just a feature added into an MMORPG.

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Pretty sure SE devs are capable.

Guild Wars 2 pvp is actually pretty fun too, which is what our PVP is probably going to be like. But the more pvp options, the better.

I'd rather just have Capture the Flag. :(


(and then the other options)

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

Pretty sure SE devs are capable.

Guild Wars 2 pvp is actually pretty fun too, which is what our PVP is probably going to be like. But the more pvp options, the better.

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Oh I know they are capable of adding in a feature like this, and I urge them to.

I never said it wouldn't be fun or a neat feature to have in FFXIV. All I am saying is that tower defense games by themselves are more in-depth and balanced than one in an MMORPG could be. Then again, we will never know unless they actually add it in, so I would love this feature to be added in.

I actually really hate tower defense games.
Not my cup of tea.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I actually really hate tower defense games.
Not my cup of tea.

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What is it that you hate about them?

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Oh I know they are capable of adding in a feature like this, and I urge them to.

I never said it wouldn't be fun or a neat feature to have in FFXIV. All I am saying is that tower defense games by themselves are more in-depth and balanced than one in an MMORPG could be. Then again, we will never know unless they actually add it in, so I would love this feature to be added in.

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True true. I'll probably try out whatever it ends up being, but I know i'll enjoy it if they manage to encompass the strategy and teamwork of these type of game if it turns out to be styled after tower defense.

I like these ideas, but if they implemented them I'd want them to do it right. These sound like they would take a lot of time to really get it at a good level so it'd probably have to wait until an expansion or something.

Basically didn't read the entire thread.

But I remember when Assassin's Creed added in a tower defense feature in Revelations.

And everyone hated it.

Just Saiyan~!

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Basically didn't read the entire thread.

But I remember when Assassin's Creed added in a tower defense feature in Revelations.

And everyone hated it.

Just Saiyan~!

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I mean...it was Assassin's Creed. Everyone wants to just assassinate.

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

What is it that you hate about them?

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Whatever it is, I just get really really bored with them. I just don't get the drive to continue past the first few levels of any given one. Guess I just get bored with em.

Yea if they put something like this at best be on the back burner for later expansions or something.

I just bought Dungeon Defenders, I guess that's sorta a way they could do it.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Why stop there?

Let's get SC2 in FFXIV too. And some Blops2.

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And some Halo?