Old 1.0 music and dungeon/zones music

It's rare for me create a thread. But I had this question that only popped up when my friend suddenly said. "Do you happen to know if the music in the Black shroud will be taken over? Also what about those open dungeons where no music played. I sure hope that doesn't come back in ARR."

We know for a fact that some/most if not all zones will receive a new tune. And I remember Soken saying that each zone will have like one large track but that changes as you progress through a zone. (What we've seen during the alpha gridania tour)

So here are my questions.
- Will all previous musics be abolished? Me and my friend really like the Coerthas music and the new Black shroud track that got implemented later on and replaced the old ambient one (in most areas of the black shroud)

- Will we see the return once again of dungeons without music?(Which I doubt considering they'll all become instanced)
But more importantly will there be just zones/areas without music. Like in FFXI(think La Theine plateau and other areas) I certainly hope it won't because this has bugged me as well with FFXIV 1.0.

I am sure they will keep some of the tracks.
For example the primal battle music or chocobo and so on. But then I think they are working on many new tracks for different zones.

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Originally Posted by nibelunc

I like the dungeon music :)
I am sure they will keep some of the tracks.

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I don't dislike the current "instanced" dungeon music. But I was referring to those open dungeons around Eorzea like Tam-tara deepcroft and the likes. Probably should have called them caves instead. And also not including the battle music. I'm really talking about the "no music" playing in the background.

It's honestly one of those things I never understood why they avoided to place any form of music.

Yeah I am sorry, I misunderstood and I agree with you :)
Sorry bout that.

I hope 1.0 dungeon music goes away, or at least is only used for ONE of the dungeons, and not all of them.

I suspect that they're going to be replacing the music they released on itunes with new stuff. But I could be wrong :x

As for those "caves" aka dungeons, I think they said they were doing away with those and any type of dungeon would be instanced from now on. So they may inherit the music that plays in TotoRak...or new music altogether.

It's too soon to tell. Imo I wish they wouldn't mess with the music, but it seems they're going that route. :/

I wouldn't worry. If we look at the music that was not part of the game originally such as the grand company themes I would say there was an increase in quality. I expect there to be plenty of excellent new music in ARR with the best of the original music remaining. As much as I love Nobuo FF XIV is not his best work.

I just hope there are very few or no areas devoid of music. Was kind of annoying that some of the open world areas and most of the indoor dungeon areas of FFXI had no music.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I just hope there are very few or no areas devoid of music. Was kind of annoying that some of the open world areas and most of the indoor dungeon areas of FFXI had no music.

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Exactly. I originally wasn't even expecting to see those non-music areas in FFXIV until I went inside Tam-Tara deepcroft for the first time. And was left dissapointed because they didn't add any form of music.

I hope the chocobo/goobou and battle bgm dosnt replace my area bgm. I can never really enjoy the tune when other things interrupts the theme with another and then restarts it from the beginning once the battle is finished/dismounted.

I'm loving all of the new music but I also like a lot of the 1.0 music so I hope it makes it back in some form or another. For example, it would be awesome if Gridania's original theme played during key parts in the main storyline cutscenes while you're in Gridania (as with all the city-states/zones.) Much of Uematsu's original soundtrack simply needed to be used elsewhere for it to feel like it fit after all, while other's were perfect IMO from day one and I would really hate for it to be gone (twilight over thanalan and over windy meadows <3). So while I'm all for the new music, please keep our favorite ones! (and PLEASE keep the boss theme, but don't overuse it like in 1.0)

Hello everyone!

I wanted to pass along what Soken's responses were to some of the questions that were brought up in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Masayoshi Soken

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Will the music in version 1.0 be completely removed?

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More than likely you will be able to hear it somewhere.

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Will we see the return of dungeons and/or open areas without music? (Just ambiance.)

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We basically set it up so that music is not playing all the time and in every location in ARR, so there will be dungeons and areas without music.

There are many occasions where we will play a bit of ominous music at the entrance, and then it will change to just ambient sounds. During battle the music will play, but this is a feature of Alpha and will most likely change in the future. There are of course times that content-type dungeons will have music playing the whole time.

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Can you toggle the chocobo/goobbue music on and off?

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In Alpha, after the riding music loops about 1 and a half times, it will no longer continue to play. We are planning to have a toggle option at launch as well!

Also, for mounts, though it will be after the launch, we are thinking of a variety of gimmicks, so look forward to it!

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Long as it works like XI's loopin all is well.

Btw, tell Soken to remix Garden of Ru`Hmet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSt8vifJG38

This is ambiance and dungeon music all in one!

Like the bit about the chocobo music, but I wonder why they don't want music in every area. Wonder if it's just a design cost issue or whatnot. I guess I don't mind if some areas don't have music, but I don't want it to be as bad as FFXI/FFXIV 1.0 was. In FFXI all the crag areas and their next immediate areas, along with "dungeons" (Korroloka, SSG, etc.) didn't have music. Hell, even the beastmen strongholds didn't have music; I was glad for that change in 1.0. (and it was great music too, especially Natalan)

I would love a Jukebox mode, including all purchased/unlocked music, perhaps even the old OST music, be added to our Houses....

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Long as it works like XI's loopin all is well.

Btw, tell Soken to remix Garden of Ru`Hmet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSt8vifJG38

This is ambiance and dungeon music all in one!

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You really love XI don't you?

Is what he explained about the loop the same way it works in XI? Never played that thing.

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

You really love XI don't you?

Is what he explained about the loop the same way it works in XI? Never played that thing.

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yep, it's the same. After a bit, chocobo music stop playing

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

You really love XI don't you?

Is what he explained about the loop the same way it works in XI? Never played that thing.

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After a few loops on a choco in XI the music fades out to the zone BGM, but it depends on how they're doing the bgm in general since he said in may change from Alpha apparently.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

After a few loops on a choco in XI the music fades out to the zone BGM, but it depends on how they're doing the bgm in general since he said in may change from Alpha apparently.

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Oh okay, that sounds really convenient. I just don't see why it would change unless the loop count is what he's talkin about.

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

Oh okay, that sounds really convenient. I just don't see why it would change unless the loop count is what he's talkin about.

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Probably the way the music fades in and out is what may change, since in 1.0 they changed it from a fade to an immediate thing.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hello everyone!

I wanted to pass along what Soken's responses were to some of the questions that were brought up in this thread.

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I feel special now lol. One of my threads and questions got answered by a dev \o/.

But not so happy to hear about the return of zones without music. Never understood that part but at least it got answered.

Coerthas needs this as its tune.

The shroud needs this in one of their zones.

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Originally Posted by NinjaPanda

The shroud needs this in one of their zones.

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On Windy Meadows is XIV's response to Ronfaure.

From what it sounds like, there will be almost no 1.0 music left in ARR. That makes me pretty sad. The music was fine. It just needed better zones to be attached to.

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Originally Posted by alexhatesmil

On Windy Meadows is XIV's response to Ronfaure.

From what it sounds like, there will be almost no 1.0 music left in ARR. That makes me pretty sad. The music was fine. It just needed better zones to be attached to.

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It's good, but it's no Ronfaure. It's more tribal than Celtic.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hello everyone!

I wanted to pass along what Soken's responses were to some of the questions that were brought up in this thread.

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Thanks for the info, Rukkirii. I really like the direction they're heading in with sound/music in ARR. And Soken is just amazing. I love the stuff he's composed so far. :D

I have a feeling they're really going to create some magic in terms of environment and ambiance in 2.0.

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Originally Posted by NinjaPanda

Coerthas needs this as its tune.

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I have to disagree with this assessment. I really think the FFXI soundtrack as a whole whoops FFXIV's soundtrack's behind, but the Coerthas music is one of the few tracks from FFXIV that I absolutely adore.

can finally play ffxiv with music on now that we can toggle off that damn chocobo music.....

Thanalan needs to keep Twighlight over Thanalan. D:

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Originally Posted by Molic

can finally play ffxiv with music on now that we can toggle off that damn chocobo music.....

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It isn't so bad lol makes you feel like Indiana Jones :D

I'm glad they making loops in the music was something I posted about a long time ago ambient sound/music exclamation points can bring life to area greatly if done right. :D I'm chuffed to bits

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Originally Posted by Kiki_Tsakiki

I have to disagree with this assessment. I really think the FFXI soundtrack as a whole whoops FFXIV's soundtrack's behind, but the Coerthas music is one of the few tracks from FFXIV that I absolutely adore.

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I also think the coerthas theme is the best track from 1.0, hoping that it stays around for 2.0 in some capacity

Oh no.... so that means... no more "On Windy Meadows" anymore??? ; ;

I absolutely adore that BGM!!!!! ; ;

This is just my opinion and my personal taste but I preferred Nobuo Uematsu's compositions over those of Soken. I understand that this does not match the tastes of the younger generation but to me Uematsu's scores had more of a Final Fantasy feel to them. I also understand that the music composed by Soken will be tailored to the new world that is Eorzea but I will miss a number of the tracks that were in 1.0. I would still be grateful to SE if they made these tracks available to us before they are lost forever.

I'm sure much more music than we think will be reused in 2.0 than we think. Only time will tell tho. I will say, for the record, the music made the FFXIV that I know and love and it truly would just suck if all/most/some of that music didn't survive into 2.0.

I only hope the INN track will remain because is PERFECT. But also other Uematsu tracks should remain in ARR somewhere.. it would be a real pity.

^I agree, most specifically with the INN music. It was truly awesome to log on and hear that music as I was waiting for the game to load on my first login of the day. Was truly something I don't think any other game will ever be able to recreate for me.

So long as the older music isn't getting completely nixed, I'm fine with them arranging or placing the music in it's proper setting. I'm all for the music to match certain parts of a zone, like what Soken has planned. There's just no reason to get rid of stuff like Twilight over Thanalan or the Coerthas theme. Also keep Coertha's and La Noscea's battle themes. Maybe as NM songs or something, but they should stay.