Hi im a linux fan i wanting put ubuntu on my main system but ARR is windows only, i cant see it ever getting ported linux. So i thought i ask did anyone try to run 1.0 on windows though vmware.
vmware has anyone tryed
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11-14-2012, 07:33 PMCaptaindownsyndromevmware has anyone tryed
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11-14-2012, 08:38 PMDuuude007
Vmware... im pretty sure I tried on a virtual insance of xp, and it crashed horribly. Not sure of newer OS's however.
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11-14-2012, 08:50 PMRalliare
Just duel boot your main machine and don;t waste it;s power then. If you're a gamer you should have foreseen this.
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11-14-2012, 10:55 PMDelsus
The game will never run under VMWare, because in the virtual OS it uses an emulated graphics adapter which cannot run heavy 3d games.
If you want run ARR under Linux you should try Wine, it apparently worked very well on 1.00, so hopefully it will run well in ARR. Whist Wine is essentially an emulated environment unlike VMWare it recognizes and uses the hardware graphics adapter which allows it to run heavy 3d applications.
Source: I use VMWare all the time and I know it extremely well, and a Linux geek, hell just a geek all over :p -
11-14-2012, 11:23 PMFranzisca
With wine you can expect 20-30% of native windows performance, FFXIV has always been running terrible with it. Don't believe what people rate it at winehq.org, they play at lowest settings, low resolution whereas the same hardware would run the game at max settings on windows.
If you want native performance on Linux via Virtualisation use XEN direct hardware passthrough but you need 2 graphic cards for that:
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...-the-way-to-go!!!
http://gro.solexiv.de/2012/08/pci-passthrough-howto/
Its complicated to get it running properly but performance is superior to wine or vmware's non-existing 3D capabilities.
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11-14-2012, 11:23 PMEnyyxYou didn't mention that you've actually tried this with the latest versions of Fusion/Workstation/etc which advertise better 3d support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
Here's someone who has (at least with Player): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yOEwqhniSE Granted, it's not FFXIV, but this at least shows that 3d gaming is possible.
I'm going to try this with Workstation 9 for fun in a couple months, but need to finish building the actual box first. -
11-15-2012, 12:00 AMDelsusLemme check what workstation 9 says downloading now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enyyx
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11-15-2012, 01:18 AMDelsus
Sorry for the double, I have Workstation 9 installed and tools updated, obviously I can't check FFXIV, but I'll try something else and report back.
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11-15-2012, 03:36 AMDelsus
Tried to install Batman Arkham Asylum and I get this when it checks the system.
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...Batmanfail.jpg
That's running a Windows Vista Business VM in VMWare Workstation 9 with updated tools and the VM upgraded to run under Workstation 9 hardware compatibility. -
11-15-2012, 05:21 AMEnyyx
Booo...
Do you still have the FFXIV benchmark software? If not, go grab it from fileplanet before SE reads this! XD
http://www.fileplanet.com/213527/210...-XIV-Benchmark -
11-15-2012, 05:27 AMAvraamii
vmware tools are good, but not that good :P
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11-15-2012, 07:28 AMDelsusDownloading it now, and I'll post the results but really I'm not expecting it to even run lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enyyx
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11-15-2012, 08:09 AMindira
virtualbox is better then vmware and its free.
virtualbox seamless mode is win.
virtual box has more support for other OS's then vmware also. -
11-15-2012, 08:17 AMDelsus
I tried the benchmark (after some dx issues) and the Square Enix logo lagged like mad when it came up, and into the CS all I was getting was a black screen with the performance graph on and then a white screen nothing more (on the black screen it was at 50) so yeah looks like it will not run in VMware.
Also Indira it's basically what you need, VMware Workstation has more features than Virtual Box, things like Unity mode and VMware tools to enhance the virtualisation, but there are places virtualbox is better than VMware.
And who needs to pay for Workstation....... that's all I'll say on how I um... acquired it /innocentwhistle. -
11-15-2012, 08:22 AMindiraif your just running a VM to play FFXIV, cant hurt to see how it works on your system. you can always hit delete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
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11-15-2012, 08:25 AMDelsusI know, just decided to test it for the OP, btw it's been awhile since I used virtualbox, does that recognise the physical network adaptor or is it emulated as well? If it shows the physical one in dxdiag it may work, and for the OP I think there is a Linux version of virtualbox as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by indira
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11-15-2012, 09:08 AMindiradefault settings it runs off your nic without issues. VB works on windows, linux, macQuote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
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11-15-2012, 09:37 AMIrana
Thats odd...FFXIV SHOULD run on an emulated windows 7 ...
I use that thing to test programs every day -
11-15-2012, 09:52 AMLegado
Dual boot is your friend. Google it.
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11-15-2012, 10:17 AMDelsusMost virtualization software has to emulate the graphics adapter to render graphics, and this is severely limited for high end graphics, it cannot use the physical adapter for guest operating systems. Most programs work perfectly well, just nothing that requires a physical graphics adapter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irana
I use it to test programs, to experiment and to teach myself new skills (I really don't wanna mess up my host Windows 7 too much) Its brilliant for things like small scale testing of programs, and to make a little network to learn server technologies or troubleshooting, but it's not designed to be used for gaming.