How the series should be referenced in ARR.

How would you like old FF's to be referenced? Personally I'm hugely against in your face references to characters or places that have no logical place on Hydalen.

One reference I really like is:

The Onion Doublet Set [FFIII counterpart]

Notice how this set references the original armour heavily? (here's a more recent iteration if you're not convinced)

This is how I want all armour to be referenced in ARR. It's not OTT, it has a logical place in the XIV lore and it's been made to fit into the aesthetic views of XIV, making it feel like it's supposed to be there.

If a player who has never experienced the series can't see that a certain set of armour is looking significantly weird, compared to rest then I think that SE has done a good job.

There's a couple of other references I enjoy like the whole Sephiroth/mocking name reference. too.

There's already a number of other references to VII.

So how do you think XIV should reference the older games?

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

There's a couple of other references I enjoy like the whole Sephiroth/mocking name reference. too.

There's already a number of other references to VII.

So how do you think XIV should reference the older games?

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Wait...what is that NPC talking about in the sepiroth reference? Is he actually referencing player names? It's weird that he'd include those x's in there. Unless this is just an easter egg from Square that's poking fun at all of the versions of the name "Sephiroth" people make so they can just have that name.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Wait...what is that NPC talking about in the sepiroth reference? Is he actually referencing player names? It's weird that he'd include those x's in there. Unless this is just an easter egg from Square that's poking fun at all of the versions of the name "Sephiroth" people make so they can just have that name.

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He's referencing the fact that there were so many variations of Sephiroth and other FF names in XI and XIV I believe.

Adding the XxX was a pretty solid clue to that, and the fact that he says that "So many adventurers have similar names"

I like how the called back the Rydia look as I call it with the draping sleeves in games like X, would love to see a more elegant Rydia-esk smn in xiv than the rediculous xmas elf version in xi

http://i.imgur.com/t5ZK6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rex

Wait...what is that NPC talking about in the sepiroth reference? Is he actually referencing player names? It's weird that he'd include those x's in there. Unless this is just an easter egg from Square that's poking fun at all of the versions of the name "Sephiroth" people make so they can just have that name.

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The NPC was a one of the ones that you meet during faction levequests. It was always funny to hear.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

How would you like old FF's to be referenced? Personally I'm hugely against in your face references to characters or places that have no logical place on Hydalen.

One reference I really like is:

The Onion Doublet Set [FFIII counterpart]

Notice how this set references the original armour heavily? (here's a more recent iteration if you're not convinced)

This is how I want all armour to be referenced in ARR. It's not OTT, it has a logical place in the XIV lore and it's been made to fit into the aesthetic views of XIV, making it feel like it's supposed to be there.

If a player who has never experienced the series can't see that a certain set of armour is looking significantly weird, compared to rest then I think that SE has done a good job.

There's a couple of other references I enjoy like the whole Sephiroth/mocking name reference. too.

There's already a number of other references to VII.

So how do you think XIV should reference the older games?

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that isnt the full onion set. here, googled it up http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...1290438638.jpg

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Originally Posted by Majidah

that isnt the full onion set. here, googled it up http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...1290438638.jpg

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It upsets me that I didn't get my Union helm because my code went to my discontinued Beta account. As did my Asuran arm guards.

I share the same beliefs as you Ingolf. I like indirect references to the previous games, like the Sephiroth thing you mentioned. I don't want to see characters like Cloud and Sephiroth and other main characters from the former games appear though. They really have no place in this game. Locations like the Gold Saucer I'm ok with if they choose to use that name as long as it fits the lore of this game.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

that isnt the full onion set. here, googled it up http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...1290438638.jpg

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Well the problem is that the helmet isn't at all within the aesthetic scope of XIV. That's why I chose to omit it.

It's just a reference for the sake of it.

I mean it fits more now I guess, but at the beginning of XIV we had very drab colours of brown and black, cream and grey. And then suddenly LOL HUGE BLUE HELMET WITH MASSIVE FEATHERS

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I share the same beliefs as you Ingolf. I like indirect references to the previous games, like the Sephiroth thing you mentioned. I don't want to see characters like Cloud and Sephiroth and other main characters from the former games appear though. They really have no place in this game. Locations like the Gold Saucer I'm ok with if they choose to use that name as long as it fits the lore of this game.

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Yeah, the name "Golden saucer" is cool. I'd like it to actually be similar, and maybe be in Garlemald to suit a more technologically advanced area.

I'll be upset if Cloud appears, but I won't be upset if someone references a "Spiky haired fella' with a huge sword"

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I'll be upset if Cloud appears, but I won't be upset if someone references a "Spiky haired fella' with a huge sword"

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Yep, exactly. If they want to bring old characters into the game, it should only be references in passing such as that.

I agree, I don't want NPCs with the names of antagonists and protagonists from old FF games, some bosses are ok, like the elemental archfiends because they can fit in the lore, and aren't a huge part of the story of the old games.

Also bring in the recurring themes of the old games, Cid, boats, crystals, airships etc are already there, but slip a Biggs and Wedge in somewhere discreet (not a main character in the story) perhaps a vendor NPC, or in a new town, have them behind the guildleve counter (one of them local and one regional)

Also any I have forgotten, I would love a random Sandworm popping out of the ground anywhere in Thanalan (possible oneshot on lower levels for lulz)

They could take a great many lessons from FFIX.

That game was chock-full of Allusions to the previous FF's, but it felt like an individual FF with a strong story and its own flavour.

FFIX was really good in that regard. "No cloud nor squall shall hinder us".