Hello everyone!
We just started a new contest for our Europeans players, "What if Dalamud Contest". Participations prizes are up for grab! Be quick while stocks last!
As for some contests we held in the past involving physical rewards, we had to restrict this contest to four countries (UK, Germany, Spain and France) for Legal reasons. I would to apologise once again to all players who aren't eligible to enter this contest.
Thank you for your understanding.
What if Dalamud Contest
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10-29-2012, 08:49 PMYoumukonWhat if Dalamud Contest
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10-30-2012, 12:09 AMReika
Americans arent allowed to have 'What if' contests by law!
jk, gl to all who participate ^^ -
10-30-2012, 02:28 AMVydos
I'm dissapointed that Belgium is not listed... *feels left out and excluded*
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10-30-2012, 02:33 AMjackffTell me why you never turn Russia! It is discrimination in its purest form! Not on the official site can not buy games, all competitions passed me! I hate you SE. Enough to bypass Russia!Quote:
Originally Posted by Youmukon
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10-30-2012, 02:35 AMNixThere are many countries that get passed over, a lot of it has to do with legal reasons. It's not discrimination D:Quote:
Originally Posted by jackff
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10-30-2012, 02:36 AMNixAwww Ronbooo ; ;, but you have access to amazing belgian chocolate>< I would take that over a competition anyday! (What can I say, I love good chocolate! lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vydos
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10-30-2012, 03:12 AMjackffNo, this is discrimination! If this is for legal reasons, I want to know how it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
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10-30-2012, 03:38 AMShougun
My entry:
:D , Hope everyone has played Chrono Trigger XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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10-30-2012, 04:02 AMBowenCalm your panties.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackff
They've explained it numerious times, and they really don't have to do anything to include you. A lot of countries don't get to participate, but that doesn't mean SE is discriminating against them. -
10-30-2012, 06:12 AMVydosHaha, thanks Rin. Some comfort at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
So I guess this means that S-E is discriminating, Belgium, The Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Italy, (and I could go on and on...)Quote:
Originally Posted by jackff
Man they must really be a discriminating bunch those people at S-E /endsarcasm XD -
10-30-2012, 06:37 AMjackff
These countries participated in other competitions! I think it is discrimination, I want to see the competitions for all, not just for the elite!
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10-30-2012, 07:37 AMReikaPeople of those countries actually are not allowed to participate in 'What if' contests by law.......Quote:
Originally Posted by jackff
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10-30-2012, 08:34 AMRekko
Its probably because its cheaper and easier to send something to these 4 countries. You also have the language barrier to deal with; Jokes that are funny in Russia for example, may not be funny in Spain or France when translated.
Here's a good example: Two Ronnies - Fork Handles. My friends ex wife is American and could never understand this joke. -
10-30-2012, 08:53 AMValmonteand i would totally be cool with that if that really happens. well.....except for maybe Magus, ill have a little green frog kill him again or something :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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10-30-2012, 11:24 AMNix<3 The Two Ronnies haha, my husband is American and doesn't understand half of their jokes either haha XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Rekko
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10-30-2012, 12:44 PMStarlord
What if Dalamud was actually… a big giant Meatball in which Hildibrand went there to hog it all for himself!
This was my entry! :P -
10-30-2012, 02:39 PMdeathstix
Hello. I'm from Singapore. To the folks from SE, if you don't already know where we are, please Google this tiny red dot who happens to have about 9 million internet subscriptions in a country of almost 6 million (go figure). We have been progressively excluded from every single competition that has been organised for the FF XIV community since DAY ONE.
I would really like an official explanation from SE as to why they have decided to consistently exclude certain territories from their official forum-based competitions. We are just like any other paying customer. Will this be rectified in 2.0 or will we continue to be left out? -
10-30-2012, 07:16 PMAntipikaThere was an official post explaining that country exclusion was done due to legal reasons for every single contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathstix
Also, Singapore isn't even on the supported country list for the SQEX Account services, meaning that you shouldn't even be playing XIV right now, neither accessing these forums. You had to enter fake information to be able to create an account (since Singapore isn't selectable in the country list), making you break the ToS as soon as you signed up for the service. You shouldn't really expect anything when it comes to forum contests :| Be glad SE don't ban you already I'd say.
(And I'm not saying that's good or anything, but players whose country isn't even eligible to play the game should first complain about the lack of availability of SQEX Account services in their country rather than being able to enter some random forum contest... Know your priorities.) -
10-30-2012, 10:29 PMdeathstixI seriously can't be bothered with all the legalese (gee does anyone even bother to read the ToC whenever they install a game?). All I want (and I guess I speak for a majority of us who aren't "supported" by SE) is some assurance from SE that we are just as part of the FF XIV community like any other paying customer (so like now it's like we're aliens giving them money because we don't exist in their world!). I do understand there are some limitations with regards to giving prizes, but there has been some contests where the prizes awarded are in-game items - and there can't possibly be any worldly physical limitations with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antipika
Enter fake information to play this game? I think I'm well educated enough to NOT do that. My credit card information, address and other details are as real as any other gamer in here (I hope). I bought the Collectors' Edition of the Europe edition of this game, some of my Singaporean friends have the American ones, but we're all connected online (a whole bunch of us reside on Masamune now). And many of them have been loyal followers since FF XI. Why would SE ban us if we're already legitimately paying for a lot of Yoshi-P's coffee and cigarettes? (ok bad analogy but I hope they get the point).
And that list of countries... I just wonder how they did come up with that. I mean... come on... Timor Leste? Anyone of you from there? Any players from Greenland hands up please?
If SE could give us A REASON why we're excluded (and that includes my friends from Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines), I'm fine with that, whatever that reason might be.
And why would anyone make a game that excludes some people from playing it.... -
10-30-2012, 11:02 PMSeth_Ahriman
Because SE doesnt care XD.
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10-30-2012, 11:04 PMdeathstixAnd this genuinely makes me disappointed. Not enough to make me want to leave the game, but just, disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seth_Ahriman
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10-30-2012, 11:36 PMNiqoteMore likely that they would go broke if they hired multiple lawyers, distributors and translators to cater to each countries different lawsQuote:
Originally Posted by Seth_Ahriman
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10-30-2012, 11:49 PMdeathstixHmm we're getting somewhere here. Well Singapore is quite well known for our rather draconian laws LOL...but there must be some workaround that they can employ that includes all other countries already not in their list. It's not like they have to seek our government's permission to distribute the game here (our local game retailers readily bring the game in for us to purchase at their shops!) I really wish they could at least make it a little bit transparent instead of chucking us aside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niqote
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10-31-2012, 01:01 AMAntipikaYou really have no clue of what you're talking about. In order to distribute a product in most countries, companies must seek approval from local authorities. You do not distribute anything you want freely. And that's only for games, it would be the same for movies etc.Quote:
It's not like they have to seek our government's permission to distribute the game here (our local game retailers readily bring the game in for us to purchase at their shops!)
It's not because a retailer sells something that it means that the publisher did approve for the product to be distributed officially in the country. This is typically not endorsed by the publisher. (i.e. selling imported games or movies in the wrong region/country.)
By selling XIV in Singapore, it's not hard to guess that the distributor does NOT have Square Enix approval of doing so as SQEX Account services are NOT meant to be used there. So SE cannot sell a game in a country where no one can be a customer unless breaking their own ToS.
If SE determined that the cost of extending SQEX Account services in Singapore isn't justified (i.e. not enough potential customers) then deal with it. That's what happen when you want a product that's not originated from your own land. There are many Japanese games I would like to play, yet they aren't published in Europe. Guess what? I deal with it. Editors do what they want. As far as I know, no private company out there is forced to offer their services Worldwide. SE is no exception. Be lucky that you can actually log on and that SE isn't enforcing an IP ban + witch hunt to remove customers with false data out of their database. (Lot of JP companies providing online services do that actually...)
What kind of transparency do you want? No company will tell directly to their potential customers "look we do not offer our services in your country because it would cost us too much to deal with local laws and regulation while the market potential is too small".
And this discussion is unrelated to this contest, your first issue is not even being allowed to be a customer at the first place, without breaking the ToS. Picking a false country during the registration process makes your forfeit all your rights as a customer, keep that in mind.
And sorry if I sound harsh, but you seems to leave in a fairy tale world, where everything is free and can easily be done. You remind me of people asking for the game to be localized in whatever language that's spoke by <0.1% of players. -
10-31-2012, 01:24 AMSeth_Ahriman
Solution: Just post on the EU thread anyways. Then they have to find the one that is the best that is actually from the right region.
On a side note, this game is almost as serious as a children's card game :D -
10-31-2012, 02:22 PMMontijin
What if Dalamund was made of BBQ Spare Ribs, wouldya eat it?
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10-31-2012, 07:09 PMAngelas
I would say they could allow everyone to participate if they offered an in-game gift replacement if the winner isnt able to receive a real gift via their countries laws. Surely giving an in-game item away is a possibility instead of excluding a huge portion of their playerbase