Mob Copy-Paste

Devs,

I understand the need to reuse some mob models for the sake of reducing the load and space required for the game. However, I feel that some mobs should NEVER be reused at higher levels. When you've spent 30 hours leveling a character, realizing that you could still get killed by a Marmot because he is level 55 and you are level 45 is a bit odd. Please try to avoid reusing critter type mobs at high levels. A Marmot is a Marmot, period. And while I will let the fact that at low levels it takes more than 1 slice of my sword to kill them, there should never be a situation where you can die from fighting one, especially at higher levels.

Thanks

because a marmot isn't a critter, but a regular mob

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/badass-killerrabbit.jpg

That's no ordinary rabbit! It's the most foul, cruel, and bad tempered rodent you've ever set eyes on!

I died to a ladybug in FFXI and a GM saw it and laughed at me...

GM "It's hard to believe a mighty dragoon can be felled by a ladybug... hehehe :S"

A Marmot doesn't seem as bad. Atleast it could have rabies and kills you from DoT.

True however, it would be nice if say marmots and other small critters had a lvl 30 cap or something along those lines. I just want to fight things that actually seem like a threat to more things than just our crops lol. I want to fight those iron giant dudes and other things that look like they can tear some shit up.

Enough of the killing of farm animals its time to fight the things that require adventurers instead of simple hunter gatherers lol.

This is one thing that I have watched turned non-FF players off every time I try to show them the game. Their first reaction is always "why would I want to kill a rabbit when I could be killing Sith Lords or slaying giant dragons?". Unfortunately I have no answer for them. Low level grunt work - sure - but after like level 15 we should only see these as harmless little creatures that you can whack in one shot.

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Originally Posted by Tiberious

This is one thing that I have watched turned non-FF players off every time I try to show them the game. Their first reaction is always "why would I want to kill a rabbit when I could be killing Sith Lords or slaying giant dragons?". Unfortunately I have no answer for them. Low level grunt work - sure - but after like level 15 we should only see these as harmless little creatures that you can whack in one shot.

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Wow. They must have some insecurity issues if they need to feel powerful in order to have fun.

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Originally Posted by Keisuna

Wow. They must have some insecurity issues if they need to feel powerful in order to have fun.

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I enjoy the feeling of spending 100 hours leveling a character to know I can still ultimately get killed by a rat

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Originally Posted by Tiberious

I enjoy the feeling of spending 100 hours leveling a character to know I can still ultimately get killed by a rat

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I agree, that isn't fun. What's fun is leveling your character and seeing them grow and progress.

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Originally Posted by Keisuna

I agree, that isn't fun. What's fun is leveling your character and seeing them grow and progress.

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Exactly, I.E. fighting bigger and badder things :)

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Originally Posted by Tiberious

Exactly, I.E. fighting bigger and badder things :)

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In relation to what you were fighting before, yes, I agree. And that's a lot of what was wrong with FFXI, was that lvl 1 mobs and lvl 70 mobs often looked much the same, so there wasn't a clear sense of progression. It wasn't that the crab was small and weak looking, it was the fact that you supposedly progressed a long way and yet it didn't look very different, so it didn't feel any different.

But the fact that anyone can only have fun if they're fighting something awesome looking like a dragon or sith lord is incredibly near sighted.

Well now, in FFXI is was much more tolerable because at least in that online game there was a HUGE diversity in geography (see my other post) that made you not think about the fact that you are fighting the same thing at level 60 as you were at level 2. In FFXIV 1.0 not only are you fighting the same things but the areas are basically all the same with only slight variations.

And I don't think it's near sighted for people to say what is and what is not fun for them. It's a valid question posed by many. And it was Square's (my favorite game maker of the last 12 years, so you know where I stand) decision to ignore the wants and needs of those voicing their opinions that caused 1.0 to fail on an enormous scale. What made offline FF games so awesome (aside from the story, cutsenes, and freedom to roam) you ask? Well, after the first few levels you fought more and more awesome monsters. Would you have enjoyed FFVII, VIII, X, or XII as much if towards the end of the game you were still being randomly attacked by the same mobs that attacked you at level I? Probably not. So, why should an MMO be any different?

In fact, getting rid of all the level 50 marmots and various other critters that should only populate low level areas will free up some memory. Nobody is going to waste time killing them, so remove them and free up the resources for other things. Just saying, if they want this thing to be a success and draw in players of other MMOs little things like this have to change. Someone who has never played it has to sit down in the first 5 minutes and be like "woah, this is awesome," otherwise they won't stick around, and those of us who love square and will play anyways will face having to play on unpopulated servers, potential lack of updates, and a potentially short life-span.