I'm wondering.
Servers save for the last time on nov 1.
Servers go down on nov 11.
Alpha 1 begins. Japanese only.
Alpha 2 begins. Closed doors.
Closed beta begins.
Final version releases.
Lets say each phase lasts 1 month. That's at least 3 months without saving data? Maybe even more?
I really don't want to end up waiting half an year to be able to play the game with what I do amounting to something. :/
When will they resume saving content?
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08-31-2012, 07:54 AMMajidahWhen will they resume saving content?
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08-31-2012, 07:58 AMNoir
Expect 2.0 to launch by February or. March.
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08-31-2012, 08:06 AMBreladine
It's an interesting question considering for MOST games, Alpha periods are never carried over to retail content releases, and Beta periods are rarely carried over to retail content releases -- the instances in which some data might transfer it is typically just things like character names and very little else (I've been in a few Beta periods where this has occurred).
Alpha and Beta stages are testing periods and are meant for that purpose primarily. Personally I'm not entirely expectant of a testing period to be designed for furthering character development permanently. You're helping the developers make the game stable for the full release, while at the same time giving yourself a handle on the game dynamics, but you are not really building a permanent character to carry through.
Based on how most testing periods operate, I'd be tempted to say content wouldn't be carried over, but ... FFXIV: ARR (2.0) is a different beast. There hasn't really been a notable "re-release" of an MMO in this manner that I can recall.
That alone may mean exceptions to the standard rule.
Ultimately we'll just have to wait and find out.
To be quite honest, I think this is where your problem lies: with perception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majidah
People keep thinking of 2.0 as an "expansion", but.. it isn't one. This is almost an entirely new game in theory, the changes are just that deep in the development core.
We have to set expectations appropriately, which means going straight back to basics: We're preparing for Alpha and Beta testing of a brand new game, and that's what we need to consider.
I can remember the agonizing months that drawled on before FFXIV was released the first time. It was a long wait, and the first time around it was a disappointing wait considering the results. I'm used to waiting none the less, and I'm hopeful that at least this wait will be worth it. -
08-31-2012, 08:15 AMFelis
The alpha date is still unknow. It can start before 11/1
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08-31-2012, 09:20 AMPunainen
After November 1st, 1.0 will never save data. Progress will be saved after 2.0 official launch.
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08-31-2012, 09:43 AMRelix
I honestly believe that the alpha will be in a matter of weeks. I can't imagine they would have their current subscribers waiting months to play again. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that we would be in 2.0 way before it is released for retail.
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08-31-2012, 10:00 AMTTredMore than likely, though the first stage of alpha is only to insure the stability of the servers before allowing international alpha testing. So, that may day a few days perhaps before the serious alpha testing? (obviously a guesstimate).Quote:
Originally Posted by Relix
"Once we’ve confirmed that the servers are sufficiently stable, we’ll open the alpha test to players outside of Japan."
Personally, I hope that the CB testing doesn't get rushed. The initial problem with the first launch of FFXIV was a lack of recognition and action from the tester's feedback. I really want 2.0 to receive a thorough testing and proper implementation of feedback before being considered ready. I want to see a strong success for 2.0! -
08-31-2012, 11:04 AMDeli
I still think they are sort of following their schedule when they announce 2.0 road map
according to that, November should be the beta not the alpha...but could be end of the Nov too...
and the full version should be jan, 2013 -
08-31-2012, 11:14 AMBabydoll
Didn't Yoshi say the first alpha is at end of september? >.>
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08-31-2012, 11:25 AMJennestiaYes, unless they pushed that back..which is most likely what happened >.> Even the German/French rep said Beta was November or something of the sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babydoll
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08-31-2012, 12:16 PMAlerith
While people are rallying and screaming "We've waited for two years already", I'm to the point a lot of other people seem to be at, where we are of the mind that this process will take exactly as long as it needs to.
Yoshi-P is aware of the vast multitude of reasons XIV 1.0 fell flat on it's face, which includes a rushed release. He's doing his best to make sure things are as stable and polished as he can before re-releasing the game.
The last thing the game needs is a shady gameplay video and a release date earlier than the producer feels is reasonable. -
09-01-2012, 12:30 AMBreladine
Just as a point to all the people discussing the date of Alpha, the OP wasn't asking about the date of Alpha, she was asking "Will our progress be saved during Alpha/Beta". To which I still think the answer is No, but that's just a guess/opinion (which is the only thing we can give at this point I guess)
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09-01-2012, 12:41 AMMeatdawgThis, why is it so hard for people to grasp and understand. 1.0 is dead after November 1st. Maybe the servers will stay up and you can run around chatting and afk in uldah all you want but nothing is going to get saved for 2.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Punainen
Beta will fire up at some point towards the end of the year and you will be playing that until 2.0
It will probably be at least 4 months from November 1st before 2.0 launches at the earliest. -
09-01-2012, 12:45 AMAlerithThere will always be those people. The ones that, either through ignorance or denial, still pursue a goal after the Save Data cutoff date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatdawg
These are the people who will possibly get an Ifrit weapon, or a Garuda kill, or lose a Dodore wing by synthing a doublet after the cutoff, and then demand that SE owes them when 2.0 rolls along and they don't have that stuff anymore. -
09-01-2012, 01:10 AMMajidahThis is quite the simplistic answer for a much more complex matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alerith
FF:ARR isn't a new MMORPG. They specifically decided to continue FF14 instead of creating a new game.
This means it carries a whole playerbase that's being put on wait until they start saving data again.
Do I want a rushed release? No. But the alpha-beta better begin way before they shut down the servers so we can expect them to start saving data by jan 2013; otherwise FFXIV will lose a lot of the members that supported it after its botched release.
It isn't a matter of "they are making a new game". You can't put a game on hold for 6 months when its already been released. It was their choice to make the game the same, and not a new one. -
09-01-2012, 01:13 AMMeatdawgQuote:
Originally Posted by Majidah
But it is a new game, and anyone they lose because there is nothing to do for 6 months they will gain back 5 fold when 2.0 launches. -
09-01-2012, 01:18 AMHiirNoivl
I don't know when they'll resume saving content. I guess it depends on what content we're talking about here. :)
You could be right. :) Of course, I think that's a game of chicken that Yoshi P isn't willing to play after all this hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatdawg
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09-01-2012, 01:18 AMOrophin
Alpha will be running while 1.0 is still going. Once they shut down 1.0, beta will start. I seriously doubt any data from alpha/beta will be carried over. The only things SE allowed to carry over in 1.0 beta was your character name and I think your character creation profile.
In short, nothing you accomplish in alpha or beta will amount to anything. -
09-01-2012, 01:22 AMKioteAlpha begins before 1.0 comes down. They will start saving Data as soon as they let you start using your Character Again. Probably Open Beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majidah