Nothing brings people together then fair trading. something that this game truely lacks. resource we use mostly to trade "gil" is easily exploted. many mmos face same thing battle they can never win. but fight they must.
However there is a different way. away together.
Let's say I find a minion however do not want this minion cause already have this minion. so instead of selling it on market board for "gil" I request a trade with another player who also has a minion they do want.
thats how this concept works. now not blind enough to know that people can explote this too. reallife money. however unless that minion is extremely rare chances someone buying that minion off 3rd party website is extremely low compared to gil.
this directly hurt gil market. the gil value will drop drastically.. better explaination is this
I have iron ore or iron ingots but i dont need them someone else does. so instead of gil I wish to make a fair trader exhange for items like goat leather.
so suggestion is this we have a 2nd opinions where plays can offer items and request items. then instead automanticly getting the item like market place does. you actually have met this person in your data center. and discuss business. have no issue with market board being automantic and all. but wish bring people together as social expertiment. so maybe we do trading queue. on duty finder where you can exchange your wares for someone elses. discuss business deals and trade. this could be alot better then what we have now. and having more opinions for trade is never bad thing for a good ecomany
why is this good for tanks. <3
this really good for tanks cause no one needs gear more then tanks do. this improves the system getting excess to craftables quicker means that armor and items can be more ready for them instead having blank market board. or items that cost too much. for a tank itemization is everything or should be everything. never should there be sitaution where your wearing same gear at 30 that you are at 50 so on cause simply cant afford new . now you have ways contact crafters and trade leathers and what not for armor you need
Ideal of this is bring people together all shapes and sizes
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06-26-2026, 05:18 AMSakuraMidnightFair Trade System
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06-26-2026, 06:30 AMCarighan
This is a tank issue because you might be trading a tank (like, the vehicle) for something? Or why exactly?
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06-26-2026, 06:45 AMSakuraMidnightQuote:
Originally Posted by Carighan
what if the tank needed new set of armor. however didnt have gil spend on said armor. but does have items he got from slaying beast. those items could be used trade for crafters services? no
or tank gets minion at end of 4 man dungeon but they already have that minion desires some new items. he can trade that minion to a crafter for new set of armor. instead just gil what i mean
what am hoping this will achieve new friendships formed players who like to tank and players who like to craft. and at same time trying harm Real-Money-Trading Businesses by offering more ways do deals and trade with players outside just doing gil
its apart of tank fantasy/roleplay be able to have a buddy that can repair there gear. or craft them new gear allowing meeting new people and being able met ppl that want to trade crafting mats for actually gear instead just gil
alot new spronts who play this game cannot afford the prices people ask for gear. new gear is extremely important to any player specially for tanks. not all tanks wish to become crafter themselfs watch is understandable they just want to quest do dungeons maybe grind few mobs
alot of mobs fighting jobs in the game drop items really important to the crafting role. market place is only direct place to trade in the game. making gil most dominate source of trade. watch nothing wrong with that. however purest form of trade or doing business is offering something and getting something in return.
it could be anything like - join me in few dungeons and ill gladly craft you new set of armor of your choice this creates position interaction within player base. watch should be encouraged. also it directly harms real money trading cause now "gil" not so dominate. prices of items will drop cause of it maybe little. most importantly server.
thing is making new ways for players to trade bringing people together is main purpose of this outside of dungeons and raids. increasing social aspect of ff14 is very important not saying that social aspect is bad just saying never bad to improve it -
06-26-2026, 08:05 AMMikey_R
For tanks, you can use what the MSQ and job quests give you and it will be perfectly fine, even up to level 50 where gear from the MSQ is more sparce.
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06-26-2026, 08:08 AMSakuraMidnightthat doesnt really encourage player socializm most of the time people dont even talk even communicate communities very closed. its kinda sadQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey_R
if players somehow give players tasks and rewards wouldnt that be cool too.
oh my server specially on my server everything is too expansive. so for progression was forced by leveling boost for warrior and level crafting so i had gear for my tanks. cause everything on auction house was unreasonably priced. no way to fix this either way to many people. am the type person hates accepting freebes without giving something back in return. however items i collect could be useful to someone. however finding that something extremely hard cause communities are extremely closed and tight.
I do not want same thing they did in 11 where you could just get all your gear for free by spending secondry resource. get all gear for free at start of the game. even sell high level gear for free gil. there has to be away to encourage more players try to trade items to each other
is there anything wrong with wanting experence trade with players? in game?
thats what this post is about. trying repair this broken ecomany but having new ways to trade with other players with different play styles -
06-26-2026, 04:17 PMCarighanOkaaaay...Quote:
Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight
And how about we discuss FFXIV, the actual game at hand these forums are here? Not some make-believe world with issues that aren't happening here.
Now you want to encourage socialism? I mean I'm not one to argue, but what would this entail? The equivalent to the means of production would be for players (as a whole) to "own" dungeons and raids and so on, I suppose? As we already own crafting/gathering it cannot be that, right? How would dungeons owned by the masses look? You got times you act as the enemy in a dungeon?Quote:
Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight
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06-26-2026, 04:48 PMAbsurdityObviously this would entail that nobody can get buff food anymore, lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carighan
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06-26-2026, 04:56 PMCarighanNo no you can, but before the raid you gotta wait in line 4 hours at the buff food store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absurdity
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06-26-2026, 08:20 PMBurmeciathis isnt how this game works. or rather, how this game's whole economy works.Quote:
what if the tank needed new set of armor. however didnt have gil spend on said armor. but does have items he got from slaying beast. those items could be used trade for crafters services?
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06-27-2026, 03:02 AMCarighanIf anything, we already got socialism. The players do own the means of production!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burmecia
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06-27-2026, 03:50 PMAbsurdityAnd it's been a really good argument for why they probably shouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carighan
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06-27-2026, 05:26 PMCarighanxDQuote:
Originally Posted by Absurdity
At the same time we're a good argument against free markets with no oversight, just look at the market boards. -
06-27-2026, 06:33 PMSakuraMidnightnever said anything about free markets. thats words your putting in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carighan
I said basically - it would be nice if we had more ways to trade stuff other just with "gil" -
06-27-2026, 07:26 PMCarighanNo you advocated for socializm [sic]. It's right there. You wrote that. I am not putting anything into your mouth, I'm looking at what you put there. Hence the posts making fun of how to apply such concepts to FFXIV's gaming world.Quote:
Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight
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06-28-2026, 12:15 AMBubert
As a gil maker I’d hate this system. There’s a lot of activities in the game that lets you socialise with people anyway.
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06-28-2026, 08:59 AMCanadane
Sounds like Pokemon's GTS.
I wouldn't be against it, but it seems kinda pointless since gil is just as good. -
06-28-2026, 10:29 PMSakuraMidnightobjective is not harm people making legatimently gil but to harm people who are trying sell gil reallife money. and pokemon GTS system was really nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
in itself its kinda does this. even thought on service does seem kinda pointless. does have some key points
one brings people together. more socialism. and also its a choice. not meant to replace gil. meant to have other opinions players to have. am all four players having more activitives then just raiding. dungeons. most content you do solo. so open world very little socialism.
if your a crafter always looking for ways get more mats. It will not completely destroy gil selling market but it slow it down. for most part it shouldnt harm peoples legatiment gil making. just rmt -
06-29-2026, 11:36 PMCarighanAgain. /pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight