Well for one why are we going back to nuggets? Nuggets were post to be gone since they had dated-gear. Rose Gold Nugget/Darksteel Nugget etc.
Also why are we getting "Parts" coming back and why are the NQ parts completely useless...? Flawless Rampager Axehead etc.
Whats purpose of this useless item... why is it in the game? Just give Alchemist a decraft recipe so we can least get some sorta materials back.
Why is NQ Darksteel/Gold Ores completely useless... please make crafts that support the NQ ores and isn't based around HQ only required mats.
Crafting Dark & Gold... GAHHH
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08-23-2012, 07:25 PMVenatCrafting Dark & Gold... GAHHH
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08-23-2012, 07:28 PMSkies
Thing is, Venat, they actually added parts for those recipes and require the Flawless pieces in order to make them harder to HQ, harder and more annoying to craft and to REQUIRE you to HQ at least one part of the equation.
Essentially, different from the random jumble of parts before, those are a precise application in order to increase the difficulty of this craft since it's the most powerful crafted gear of the game.
That said, you do know that every Darksteel Weapon NQ component can be broken back down with the DoH used to craft it, right?
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08-23-2012, 07:32 PMVenat
Broken Back down how exactly?
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08-23-2012, 07:45 PMCatapultSynthesize it, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Venat
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08-23-2012, 08:00 PMrina_inverselmao, weve entered an endless recursion of craftQuote:
Originally Posted by Skies
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08-23-2012, 09:36 PMGriss
The thing is they wanted to make it so low end stuff was easy to make, while making high end stuff more difficult to craft.
The high end things requiring a ore>nugget>ingot transition is part of that difficulty bump. -
08-24-2012, 12:15 AMReiterpallasch
Wait, you mean I can't just crank out any number of items with an ingot + a stick?! :mad:
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08-24-2012, 02:48 AMcloverkittyIn general these items were high quality well detailed (visually) with decent functions or stats. I appreciate that SE did this (crafters challenge) and enjoy putting it together. I just feel that the HQ drops of the mats should have remained at the same rate as most other items instead of being almost primal like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Venat
All of the failed Flawless items can be crafted back into a piece of the use materials.
Example: the Rampager Head can be crafted back into a darksteel nugget.
The parts that bother me was that one of the parts requires an over priced purchased item from an npc (based on the status of hamlet) and the insanely low drop rate of the +1 materials needed to make the flawless part.
Nice idea for the occasional items and good start (I would like to see more) just don't make the materials so impossible to get. -
08-24-2012, 05:15 AMPunainen
Need nuggets because there's no such thing as a rosegold ore. But then again, there's no such thing as electrum ore either, but that didn't stop them. Hmm...
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08-24-2012, 07:46 AMFelisNo electrum ore?Quote:
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08-24-2012, 05:09 PMEruantienI think she meant in real life, it's an alloy not an ore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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08-24-2012, 08:27 PMdragorian
i hope they chane the class requirement on vena robe/darksteel armor/gryphon armor if we cant play it on pld whm/blm/war then whey even add them in the first place
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08-24-2012, 09:53 PMSkiesWhat has been said. Electrum is actually a gold-and-silver alloy, it does not exists in ore form. That is probalby what punainen is metioning. Same with rosegold being an alloy as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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08-26-2012, 06:55 PMCatapultThis being said, many gold, silver and copper mines produce the other metals as byproducts since they form in simmilar geological conditions, so you CAN technically get gold and silver in the same fist-sized chunk of rock and plausibly call it electrum ore if you wanted. It is just exceedingly rare to the point it is not practical to say you are mining for electrum ore. You are mining a gold/silver deposit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skies