Arcadian Characters in Trust

Title says it all.

I think it would be cool to start including characters outside the Scions or who actually appear in the MSQ as Trust Members.

All the Arcadian Fighters clearly have jobs that match each role ... and maybe it would make Trusts more interesting if you could level them up that way.

And... Maybe this can be a place where you can unlock a thing I call "Job Glamours"

I would like for the Arcadian Fighters to have their own special effects for the jobs they play, and I'd like to infuse that glamour onto my Jobstone.

So like instead of the usual Pictomancer effects you could have Sugar Riots.
Instead of having Dark Knight effects you could have a "Wind Knight" like Howling Blade and so on.

(Yes this is inspired by Mods - which I don't use but think be cool as a ingame item, specially for the effort of leveling NPCs)

Definitely a curious idea and would be interesting to see where they'd place the fighters whom we didn't see with a defined job (Brute Bomber and Wicked Thunder for example).

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Originally Posted by Nadda

Title says it all.

I think it would be cool to start including characters outside the Scions or who actually appear in the MSQ as Trust Members.

All the Arcadian Fighters clearly have jobs that match each role ... and maybe it would make Trusts more interesting if you could level them up that way.

And... Maybe this can be a place where you can unlock a thing I call "Job Glamours"

I would like for the Arcadian Fighters to have their own special effects for the jobs they play, and I'd like to infuse that glamour onto my Jobstone.

So like instead of the usual Pictomancer effects you could have Sugar Riots.
Instead of having Dark Knight effects you could have a "Wind Knight" like Howling Blade and so on.

(Yes this is inspired by Mods - which I don't use but think be cool as a ingame item, specially for the effort of leveling NPCs)

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They actually already do. For example in Shadow Bringers and Endwalker certain (spoiler) characters are part of your trust whom are not scions.

Considering Solution Nine is kind of part the Source now, it wouldn't be unreasonable for the people there at some point going out to explore the world. And with their fighting experience, the arcadion fighters could handle adventuring after they fully recover from their psychonekrosis, it would also make sense for them to do so as training.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Considering Solution Nine is kind of part the Source now, it wouldn't be unreasonable for the people there at some point going out to explore the world. And with their fighting experience, the arcadion fighters could handle adventuring after they fully recover from their psychonekrosis, it would also make sense for them to do so as training.

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That was my line of thinking.

(I also think it's high time they meld together our Squadrons with the trust system)

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Definitely a curious idea and would be interesting to see where they'd place the fighters whom we didn't see with a defined job (Brute Bomber and Wicked Thunder for example).

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I'd say Brute Bomber be a Warrior.
I think Wicked Thunder be a Machinist since a lot of her attacks are like guns and lasers.

Arcadian characters as the new scions!

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Originally Posted by Nadda

I'd say Brute Bomber be a Warrior.
I think Wicked Thunder be a Machinist since a lot of her attacks are like guns and lasers.

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Agree r.e Brute Bomber, and that would make sense with Wicked Thunder too....

But one thing to keep in mind is that there is no obvious Healer, which means at least one of them would need to be an 'All-Rounder' (the role G'raha fills in trusts) to cover that.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Agree r.e Brute Bomber, and that would make sense with Wicked Thunder too....

But one thing to keep in mind is that there is no obvious Healer, which means at least one of them would need to be an 'All-Rounder' (the role G'raha fills in trusts) to cover that.

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Given how HBL works, I wonder if she could be treated as a pherohealer, using pheromones to heal the player essentially. Or possibly Vamp Fatale could dish out aether to heal players. I think those 2 could work.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

But one thing to keep in mind is that there is no obvious Healer

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Wicked Thunder. Lasers. Sage.

If I could take Brute with me everywhere, I so would.

do you mean actual trust as in the trust you level up or the scenario trust where we got to play with emet?

Zero and Ryne were added to actual trust but you dont level zero nor can you play her in any part other than after EW main story.
Ryne you could level (weirdly) - i thought maybe they were going to bring her to the story again which is why she was added to leveling trust but they never did.

They seem to link trust chars to the msq only so its doubtful as raiding is always an additional content. similar to how the alliance raids folk never get added.

tho they could have them as 'unlockable' characters or could link them for an achievement.
complete the raid X times normal mode and get them as a character to choose in Expansion end dungeons. they wouldnt show in alexander for example but maybe kicking heck out of a cactus :p

but thats another addition to something the playerbase is already upset over existing so unsure if anything other than the basic characters will ever be included

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Originally Posted by lievaordiea

do you mean actual trust as in the trust you level up

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Trusts you level up.

That way, they don't need to be main story specific. Also, when you max out a trust character, you get Job Glamours to change how the effects of your abilities/job gauges look.

And it doesn't just have to be Arcadion it's just that those characters fit this idea very well. You could even include Clive or Noctis or Lightning eventually.
As I said before, I'd like it if they incorporated your squadron into the mix so instead of random adventurer NPCs (for at least 15-70) [Although I don't think those would have new unique job animations unless there was like just special Grand Company specific effects you could get to represent your GC if you wanted]

I think the trust system is cool but duty support kinda takes a bit of steam out of it.

If you made leveling up NPCs something with some sort of visual benefit to your character, people would be incentivised to do it.

I suppose arguments against from a development standpoint might be visual clarity? But it won't change your job icon or weapon, so it shouldn't be too drastic.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Agree r.e Brute Bomber, and that would make sense with Wicked Thunder too....

But one thing to keep in mind is that there is no obvious Healer, which means at least one of them would need to be an 'All-Rounder' (the role G'raha fills in trusts) to cover that.

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I'd definitely say Howling Blade could be your Sage. . . I did say he be a Wind Knight instead of a Dark Knight. In this case he'd be a Geo Sage.

And I was thinking that Deep Blue could be a Whitemage but with more water-based attacks, some fire, but his afflatus misery be an assist by Red Hot. And Red Hot could be a black mage, simply fire phase and "Ice" water phase

Not sure. Sugar Riot was set as a Machinist when she is *literally* a pictomancer in practice, only with spray paint, but because her weapon in the fight is an aerosol gun and doesn't fit the PCT's animation set, she was n MCH in cutscene, and she'd either play completely off from the Sugar Riot boss or have a ton of unique stuff built just for her. Seems kind of wasteful to me.

But, just adding more important NPCs to Trusts for us to play with could be fun. I was stunned Wuk Lamat is usable in every base DT dungeon but wasn't a Trust unit, even if only for DT content, like Ryne is for ShB. She even has her headdress as an alt outfit. (Although I'm sure a few are totally fine with keeping Estinien as a slot and just adding Krile, instead.)

So I guess my answer is just that more Trust units is good idea but I don't like the Arcadion characters enough over older MSQ staples like Hien or Aymeric to want the effort.

And we're likely to get a new character or two anyway in 8.0.

And let us use Y'shtola and/or Krile as a healer already since both are established as full capable of it.

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Originally Posted by Doki

Arcadian characters as the new scions!

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I want Honey B Lovely in a bee outfit as a scion it would be peak

I can see why some would want it, but not for me. I'm not a fan of those characters and would prefer them to stay as the Scions. But for those who want that it could be a nice optional choice

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Originally Posted by Garruss

I can see why some would want it, but not for me. I'm not a fan of those characters and would prefer them to stay as the Scions. But for those who want that it could be a nice optional choice

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I think it be nice simply put to expand peoples options. Way I see it the Scions will always be our adventuring companions. Trust system as it is now allows us to mix and match more than you can with duty support.

I think that in line with that this will help Trust stand out more for people who really don't care to level their trusts. More unique NPCs and rewards which change player effects. I think that will be awesome for the game.

One day there will come a time when FF14 kind of becomes ultimately a single player game (this will be a sad day in many ways - but if we make the Trust system robust, then players will have companions no matter what)

I've actually been thinking that if the MSQ ends up moving in the direction of exploring more of the Ninth in the future, it would make sense for the WoL to recruit some of the Arcadion characters to the party for any forays out of the dome (Since most of the Scions + Estinien have gone off to do their own thing for now). They're all pretty strong and experienced fighters, and the WoL doesn't really know a lot of people in the area, so it would make sense to ask around at the Arcadion if they needed to make up numbers.

My main picks to take along would be:
Retsarra/HB (Melee DPS), because he actually tells you that he plans to travel outside the dome next time he's got time off, so he'd be the obvious first person to check with.
The Tyrant (Tank/DPS), because he's an experienced hunter and the strongest one of the bunch anyway and also because he's my favorite
Sugar Riot (Rng or Caster/Healer?) Because it could be valuable to her as inspiration for her art
Honey (Healer or caster?), maybe as material for her stream?

Any or all of the others would be great, too, it would be nice to just have the whole group in the pool but for example I could see Dancing Green declining to go, but maybe deciding to join temporarily if you were going to Lindblum because he was close to the President and wanted to see his home town? Or the BL bros (Who should count as one unit lol XD) joining you because your next destination was close to the ocean and they want to try dodging lightning while they do their stunts.