Yet ANOTHER Sumooner rework/revamp

Summoner Rework - PART 1

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My idea for Summoner retains some of the concepts and mechanics present in the current iteration of the job, while adding nuance to every aspect of the rotation. The global concept is for Summoner to be a high burst damage job with an extremely powerful opener that then requires a buildup to meet that output. The job will also feature some utility, with more control given to the Summoner as to when utility is used. Since we are currently faced with a 2 minute buff window (barf), I’ve tailored the rotation to match that. I’ll structure this job rework as follows: Current abilities, changes, removals, etc. then propose new abilities and summons.

CURRENT ABILITIES

Physick – remove
Resurrection – remove
Energy Drain/Syphon – remove
Fester/Nectrotize/Painflare – remove
Solar Bahamut – remove
Bahamut/Phoenix – increase cast time to 1.5/2 seconds respectively.
Akh Morn – increase damage from 1300 to 1400
Revelation – increase damage from 1300 to 1500
Everlasting Flight – remove auto-trigger from Summon: Phoenix. Add effect: Resurrects all downed nearby ally targets to a weakened state.
Summon Bahamut – keep ST/AoE GCDs and auto attacks. Add OGCD Necrotize/Painflare to skill loadout. Keep Fester sound effect for Necrotize. Adds GCD Megaflare while Bahamut is active.
Summon Phoenix – keep ST/AoE GCDs and auto attacks. Add OGCD Everlasting Flight (as is, can be activated at any point during the duration of Summon: Phoenix). Add OGCD ability Brands Aflame.

Part 2 - NEW ABILITIES

Megaflare: Deals unaspected, unmitigatable damage to target and all enemy targets within an 8 yalm radius with a potency of 600 for all targets. Casting time: 1.5 seconds.

Brands Aflame: Creates a placeable zone of power. Within the zone, increases ally damage done by auto attacks, weaponskills, and abilities by 3%. Additionally increases ally critical hit rate of all magical attacks by 5%, and all magical critical hits are direct critical hits. Field duration: 15 seconds. 20 yalm radius.

GEMFLOW

As with the current iteration of Summoner, I’ve incorporated the use of gems as part of the rotation. Here is how it will work: all six Astral/Umbral summons will be available to the Summoner. Summons can be repeated. Invoking 3 gems of either Astral or Umbral persuasion will unlock either Bahamut or Phoenix respectively. Gemflow is unlocked after the use of Summon: Alexander or Summon: Odin. Players start with Temporal Pearl and Temporal Onyx.

Ruby = Ifrit – Astral summon
Emerald = Garuda – Astral summon
Topaz = Titan – Astral Summon
3 Astral summons = Diamond – Summon: Bahamut – grants Temporal Onyx

Sapphire = Shiva – umbral summon
Amethyst = Ramuh – umbral summon
Aquamarine = Leviathan – umbral summon
3 Umbral summons = Summon: Phoenix – grants Temporal Pearl.

Summon: Shiva: Summons Sapphire Shiva and orders it to execute Diamond Dust. Diamond Dust Effect: Deals ice damage to target and all enemies within 5 yalms with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: grants 8 stacks of Ice Attunement. Duration: 30s. Ice Attunement effect: Gemshine and Precious Brilliance become Ice aspected. Additional effect: Grants Shiva’s Favor. Effect of Shiva’s Favor ends upon execution of certain Summoner actions. Can only be executed while under the effect of Sapphire arcanum and Carbuncle is summoned. Current pet will leave the battlefield while Sapphire Shiva is present, and return once gone.

Sapphire Rite: Spell, Instant cast, 1s gcd, 25y, 150MP: Deals ice damage with a potency of 140. Ice Attunement cost: 1.

Sapphire Catastrophe: Spell, 1.5s, 1.5gcd, 25y, 150MP: Deals ice damage with a potency of 220 to target and all enemies nearby it. Ice Attunement cost: 2

Tundra: Spell, Instant, 2.5s, 0y, 25y.: Creates an area of slick ice around the caster. Allies within the area of effect have their movement speed increased. Duration: 10s.

Summon: Ramuh: Summons Amethyst Ramuh and orders it to execute Judgment Bolt. Judgment Bolt Effect: Deals lightning damage to target and all enemies within 5 yalms with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: grants 1 stack of Lightning Attunement. Duration: 30s. Lightning Attunement effect: Gemshine and Precious Brilliance become Lightning aspected. Additional effect: Grants Ramuh’s Favor. Effect of Ramuh’s Favor ends upon execution of certain Summoner actions. Can only be executed while under the effect of Amethyst arcanum and Carbuncle is summoned. Current pet will leave the battlefield while Amethyst Ramuh is present, and return once gone.

Amethyst Rite: Spell, channeled, 50MP/tick: Deals lightning damage with a potency of 520. Lightning Attunement cost: 0. Damage and chance to critically hit increases by 10% per tick. The 6th tick is guaranteed to be a direct critical hit.

Amethyst Catastrophe: Spell, channeled, 25y/8y, 50MP/tick: Deals lightning damage with a potency of 180 to target and 50% less for nearby targets. Lightning Attunement cost: 0. Damage and chance to critically hit increases by 10% per tick. The 6th tick is guaranteed to be a direct critical hit.

Fury of the Fey: Spell, 3s, 3.5s, 25/5y: Deals lightning damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 600 and 60% less for all remaining enemies. This is guaranteed to direct critically hit. Amethyst Attunement cost: 1

Summon: Leviathan: Summons Aquamarine Leviathan and orders it to execute Tidal Wave. Tidal Wave Effect: Deals water damage to target and all enemies within 5 yalms with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: grants 2 stacks of Water Attunement. Duration: 30s. Water Attunement effect: Gemshine and Precious Brilliance become water aspected. Additional effect: Grants Leviathan’s Favor. Effect of Leviathan’s Favor ends upon execution of certain Summoner actions. Can only be executed while under the effect of Aquamarine arcanum and Carbuncle is summoned. Current pet will leave the battlefield while Aquamarine Leviathan is present, and return once gone.

Aquamarine Rite: Spell, 4s, 2.5s, 25y, 300MP: Deals water damage with a potency of 1,300. Additional effect: inflicts heavy and slow on enemy. Aquamarine Attunement cost: 1

Aquamarine Catastrophe: Spell, 4s, 2.5s, 25y/5y, 300MP: Deals water damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 800 for the first target and 60% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: Stun – 3s. Aquamarine Attunement cost: 1

Reflectga: Spell, Instant, 2.5s, 0, 25y: Reduces magical damage taken by self and nearby party members by 20%. Additional effect: enemies take damage equal to 50% of the damage mitigated. Duration: 15 seconds.

Summon: Alexander: Call upon an echo of the mighty Alexander. Executes Light of Judgment upon summoning. Tome weapon changes to Ethereal clock. Changes ability loadout to include GCDs Banish, Banishga, and Chronolocus, and OGCD Saintly Wall. Casting time: 2 seconds. Requires Temporal Pearl.

Light of Judgment: Deals radiant damage to an enemy and all targets close by with a potency of 1600 for the first target, and 50% less for remaining targets. Chance to critically hit increased by 20% when used against undead or demon targets.

Banish (gcd): Deals radiant damage with a potency of 580 to target. Chance to critically hit increased by 10% when used against undead or demon targets.

Banishga (gcd): Deals radiant damage with a potency of 280 to primary target, and 60% damage to all targets within 8 yalms. Chance to critically hit increased by 10% when used against undead or demon targets.

Chronolocus (ogcd): Creates a shimmering temporal bubble at the designated area. Enemy targets within the bubble are afflicted with Lethargy and Slow, reducing attack and movement speed by 10%. Additionally deals damage over time with a potency of 120 to all enemy targets within the bubble. 20 yalm radius.

Saintly Wall (ogcd): Erects a magical shield around target party member that converts 25% of all damage received into HP for the duration.

Summon: Odin: Summon the horrifying aspect of the dread lord Odin. Executes Zantetsuken upon summoning. Tome weapon changes to shadow blade. Changes ability loadout to include GCDs Dread Slash, Mortal Cleave, and Execute, and OGCD Eldritch Dagger. Casting time: 2 seconds. Requires: Temporal Onyx.

Zantetsuken: Deals unmitigatable dark physical and magical damage to an enemy with a potency of 1,600. Inflicts mortal wound on the target, increasing damage taken by 5%. Duration: 15 seconds.

Dread Slash (gcd): Consume HP equal to 5% maximum. Deals dark physical and magical damage with a potency of 500 to target.

Mortal Cleave (gcd): Consume HP equal to 5% maximum. Deals dark physical and magical damage with a potency of 250 to target and all targets within 8 yalms.

Eldritch Dagger (ogcd): Deals poison physical and magical damage to target with a potency of 50 to target, and inflicts dark bio, dealing damage over time with a potency of 85. Duration: 20 seconds.

Execute: Consume HP equal to 10% maximum. Channels the full might of the Temporal Onyx into your shadow blade, dealing dark physical and magical damage with a potency of 800 to target.

GEMFLOW

As with the current iteration of Summoner, I’ve incorporated the use of gems as part of the rotation. Here is how it will work: all six Astral/Umbral summons will be available to the Summoner. Summons can be repeated. Invoking 3 gems of either Astral or Umbral persuasion will unlock either Bahamut or Phoenix respectively. Gemflow is unlocked after the use of Summon: Alexander or Summon: Odin. Players start with Temporal Pearl and Temporal Onyx.

Ruby = Ifrit – Astral summon
Emerald = Garuda – Astral summon
Topaz = Titan – Astral Summon
3 Astral summons = Diamond – Summon: Bahamut – grants Temporal Onyx

Sapphire = Shiva – umbral summon
Amethyst = Ramuh – umbral summon
Aquamarine = Leviathan – umbral summon
3 Umbral summons = Summon: Phoenix – grants Temporal Pearl.

SUMMARY

This new system keeps in place the big, impactful summon phases, while providing the player with a unique rotation for each individual summon, and featuring various types of utility. Flexibility is given to the Astral and Umbral phases to account for movement and fight needs. Also, Mega summons (Alexander and Odin) provide significant flexibility to choose between a single target (Odin) vs. AoE (Alexander) option.

Interesting, although I’d point out that the gems would have to be switched a little if you’re going for the astral/umbral split (something I’d definitely love to see). Ramuh would go alongside Garuda and Ifrit, and Titan would be on the other team with Levi and Shiva.

Also like the idea of Pearl and Onyx for Alexander and Odin. While I don’t think they’d actually remove Sol, maybe we could get Odin for its dark counterpart… although like many, I fear it’ll be Lunar Bahamut as a Zodiark standin. lol

Just a minor point but I feel like Reflectga (which wouldn’t be allowed to use that naming because of conventions, it would be Reflect II+) should be a Carbuncle skill and not Leviathan. Carby has always been associated with party wide reflect so seems like a missed opportunity to give that to another summon.

Isn’t Alexander’s Saintly Wall just Macrocosmos with less steps? I think it’s a cool effect but it sounds way too strong for a dps healing wise. What if instead of healing proportionate to damage it could work similarly to Rekindle? Like granting a HP shield to all party members then restoring HP if they fall below a certain threshold? Or maybe something similar to Ifrit-Egi’s Radiant Shield where every party member gets a HP shield that deals damage to the enemy when struck?

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Originally Posted by Valmaxian

Reflectga: Spell, Instant, 2.5s, 0, 25y: Reduces magical damage taken by self and nearby party members by 20%. Additional effect: enemies take damage equal to 50% of the damage mitigated. Duration: 15 seconds.

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Small addendum: "...magical damage from most sources taken by...", same exemption as with tank invuln so you cannot have someone sacrifice themselves to reflect 1 mil damage back at a boss from a 10 mil hit.

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Originally Posted by Carighan

Small addendum: "...magical damage from most sources taken by...", same exemption as with tank invuln so you cannot have someone sacrifice themselves to reflect 1 mil damage back at a boss from a 10 mil hit.

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I mentioned in my post but we did have an ability similar to this (idk if anything similar exists on tanks), it was Ifrit-Egi’s Radiant Shield which I think existed up until ShB or maybe Stormblood.

For that skill, the damage reflection was a set potency (I think like a 50 potency attack for every hit or something like that). So maybe Reflectga could work like that to balance it out? Rather than reflecting a portion of damage taken (as interesting as that effect sounds), it could just do X potency damage on each hit, maybe up to X amounts of hits if necessary? Same function just more balanced? Maybe lol

I agree! I hadn't really considered Integrating Carbuncle more, but that could be fun and interesting.

Yes! Thank you - I'm sure I missed a lot in terms of numbers and mechanic subtleties... I hope players like the overall concept!

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Originally Posted by Valmaxian

I agree! I hadn't really considered Integrating Carbuncle more, but that could be fun and interesting.

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Personally I think it’d be cool if rather than the current ‘stands there but does very little’ thing Carbuncle does, they turned it into a standard summon. But instead of being offense oriented like the others, it could be a more defensive/utility summon like it is traditionally. It could have things like Reflect(ga), Radiant Aegis, possibly Searing Light.
It could have its own LEGO piece thing too for demis which could mean you could use it in the place of any of the main three if you wanted to focus on defense/utility over say mobility from Titan or w/e.

Or you could even have it that the demi summoned is based on the combination of gems I.E standard three end up with Summon Bahamut, throwing Carbuncle in ends up with Phoenix, etc. idk just spitballing lol

I think you have messed up Ramuh's description? You say it grants Lightning Attunement and Ramuh's Favour, but, you have the GCDs (normally uses Attunements) spending none, and then Fury of the Fey spending Attunements, which is normally where the Favours are spent, but you also haven't stated where the favours ARE spent at all. So, for the next bit, I will assume 1 Attunement and 1 Favour. I also believe you have Shiva's single target potency wrong, as it is weaker than the AoE version, I will assume 240 potency.

Done some calcs, no idea how balanced you wanted to make these, but there are clear winners. First, by allowing the free use of summons, you instantly open up the door to some not being used. Running the numbers, the clear winner is Leviathan, coming in at 2600 (before any reflect damage) potency over 8 seconds, next is Ifrit at 2200 potency over 11 seconds, then Titan, Shiva and Garuda last at 1790 potency over 9.5 seconds.

Ramuh is an odd one as not enough info was supplied in order to accurately judge how much it was doing. First, how quickly are the charges being built? Most stacks (meditate, improv etc.) are added every 3 seconds, however, that seems way too long to be casting for 18 seconds. So I done calcs for stacks at 1 second and at 0.5 seconds, assuming the cast is going all the way to max stacks. It comes to a total of 2100 potency over 9.5/6.5 seconds, which puts it third. I did also calculate if you were to just instantly cast without building up stacks, which is a total of 1645 potency over 4.5 seconds.

Now, without knowing exactly how you wanted things to be structured, I assumed every minute you would be using both Bahamut/Phoenix and Odin/Alexander. If we assume 15 seconds each, that leaves 30 seconds to get 3 summons in plus any filler. At standard GCD speeds, Ifrit is going to lose 3 seconds and Titan fits perfectly. The others, I have worked out how many casts of Ruin 3 they can get in, roughly. With that, Leviathan gets in 2 Ruin 3s for a total of 8600 in 29 seconds. Your next one is Ramuh with stacks coming in at 0.5 seconds and 4 Ruin 3s coming in at 7900 potency over 29.5 seconds. It is worth noting here that the Ramuh calcs for the full stacks have the auto crit/DHit already factored in, so Levi, in theory, will be higher than what I am listing. That is a 700+ potency difference between the 2.

Now, working out the rest, quick fire, Bahamut is 5460 (assuming 1 Necrotize), Phoenix is 4980 (haven't counted in Brands Aflame as it doesn't affect self), Odin is 6267.25 (with the 5% from Zantetsuken) and Alexander is 5920 (not doing anything with the additional effect). This means, combined, Bahanut/Odin do 11,727.25 potency and Phoenix/Alexander doe 10,900 potency. With an 800 potency difference, it comes down to whether the buff from Brands Aflame gives more potency or the debuff from Zantetsuken. I would say Zantetsuken wins out.

This then brings an interesting dilemma, to get Odin, you need to use either Ifrit, Garuda or Titan. Titan does the most damage without going over, add that to Bahamut/Odin and you get a total potency of 17,727.25 (just to add, you can skip 1 favour for 0.5 seconds spare or 1 Attunement for 0 seconds spare, it's ~80 potency difference max though). Then, with Leviathan, Phoenix and Alexander it is 19,500, that is a total of 1772.75 potency in favour of Phoenix and Alexander. Now, whether the extra 5% from Zantetsuken is going to gain an extra 1772+ potency including taking into account the Brands Aflame buff and any extra damage from Reflega would need to be calced, and I do not want to do that. I just got carried away and 'solved' your Summoner down to 2 choices. I also hope I have highlighted why I think SE makes you go through all 3 of Titan/Ifrit/Garuda before you can summon Bahamut etc. otherwise, you will just pick the strongest. By making you go through all 3, it also introduces a choice, which order do you use them in, as opposed to the free choice where it is this one summon you have to work around, or it is being done wrong. If I were to improve your design, I would introduce such a restriction, maybe make it so that in a 2 minute window, you can only cast each one once, or by finishing Odin/Alexander, it gives random ones so you have to think on the fly on where you want to place them for the fight. I think that would be a more interesting concept than a free choice personally.

Now, for other criticisms, DoT potency is always a multiple of 3, even things like Ninja's Doton and Dark Knight's Salted Earth. For the calcs above I assumed 21 seconds for the DoT duration.

Having HP be a resource to spend is not a good idea. Just from the GCDs from Odin alone, you lose 30% of your HP, assuming Execute is an oGCD (which is what I did for the calcs), you are losing a total of 40% of your HP in 15 seconds. That healing has to come from somewhere and does a healer want to use resources to keep you topped up during burst? Especially if we look at things like Ultimates. There is a reason Black Mage lost the HP cost on Convert. Wouldn't matter if Alex comes out on top damage wise though.

There are currently no damage actions that are under 1.5 seconds in recast time, which would mean your Shiva ST spell would be, at minimum, 1.5 seconds.

And last, as a thematic thing, there is no 'Dark' or 'Radiant' aspected damage in the game. Attacks can either be one of the 6 elements (Fire, Wind, Ice, Water, Earth, Lightning) or unaspected. Things that could be considered either 'light' (Glare, Dia, Holy) or 'dark' (Unleash, Stalwart Soul, Edge/Flood of Shadow) are all unaspected. Reason being, light and dark are more descriptions about how the other elements behave and not an actual element in themselves, so someone can correct me if needed.

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Hey Mikey! First, I REALLY appreciate your work on the damage calculations - I confess, I'm NOT very good with numbers... I tried to base potencies off of siimilar abilities. The goal here was to try and create a viable rotation, while shocasing how it could be interesting to allow more flexibility in Summoner's rotation based on what we already have. Abiltiies and spells would be balanced so that players would choose basic rotation summons based on the needs of the moment, be it movement, utility, etc. My hope was to create a version of the job that isn't as...circular as it is now, but branches out with possibilities based on the situation. In a global sense, My thought was to have Alexander be the heavy hitting AoE summon (dungeons or trash), while Odin is the ST destroyer (raid bosses). Then, the standard gem rotations would give players the choice to use whatever is best at the moment, while building toward either Bahamut or Phoenix. The next basic rotation would build up to the other (B or P respectively), then allowing the Summon of Alexander or Odin, completing the cycle.

Again, thank you for your excellent work witht he damage calculations!

Regarding Ramuh's "missing" Attunement costs, these are not included on the ST and AoE abiltiies because those are channeled, and it would be very punishing to lose out on those stacks. Insteead, I put the Amethyst Attunement into the "Slipstream" abilitity for the Ramuh phase, so they get expended. I suppose it wouldn't even be necessary to include Attunement for my version of Ramuh, I was just trying to be consistent, but clearly there are some flaws.

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Originally Posted by Valmaxian

Hey Mikey! First, I REALLY appreciate your work on the damage calculations - I confess, I'm NOT very good with numbers... I tried to base potencies off of siimilar abilities. The goal here was to try and create a viable rotation, while shocasing how it could be interesting to allow more flexibility in Summoner's rotation based on what we already have. Abiltiies and spells would be balanced so that players would choose basic rotation summons based on the needs of the moment, be it movement, utility, etc. My hope was to create a version of the job that isn't as...circular as it is now, but branches out with possibilities based on the situation. In a global sense, My thought was to have Alexander be the heavy hitting AoE summon (dungeons or trash), while Odin is the ST destroyer (raid bosses). Then, the standard gem rotations would give players the choice to use whatever is best at the moment, while building toward either Bahamut or Phoenix. The next basic rotation would build up to the other (B or P respectively), then allowing the Summon of Alexander or Odin, completing the cycle.

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I do think I understood where you were coming from and trying to have utility at the cost of damage is a 'trap' people do tend to fall into. From the game dev side, they do not want a fight that makes a job mandatory to complete, so any utility needs to be on everyone of the same role (role actions) or they are just a nice thing to have, but not mandatory (Magick Barrier on Red Mage). This then comes into play when people start to maximise damage on a job, does using the utility reduce the jobs damage in any way,? If so, avoid at all costs. This is ultimately why everything was reduced to pure damage numbers.

Now, as a more casual Summoner, I too would like to see other summons and in general and I did like what you had attempted to do. However, I also didn't want to do something boring like just cycling between Ifrit/Titan/Garuda and then Leviathan/Ramuh/Shiva, which is why I suggested random summons. It forces you away from just picking the strongest ones to use and instead think about how the summons do damage and how you can fit it around a fight. Maybe some of the utility can be helpful if you happen to get it, at the right time. How Bahamut, Phoenix, Odin and Alexander fit into this, I do not know, I admittedly, didn't get that far initially. Should they have some sort of random element, should they be fixed or some other system. However, I hope I have given you an insight about how the devs approach things and how the playerbase approaches things (for better or for worse).

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Originally Posted by Valmaxian

Again, thank you for your excellent work witht he damage calculations!

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Always take the opportunity to make a spreadsheet, can never beat a good spreadsheet.

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Originally Posted by Valmaxian

Regarding Ramuh's "missing" Attunement costs, these are not included on the ST and AoE abiltiies because those are channeled, and it would be very punishing to lose out on those stacks. Insteead, I put the Amethyst Attunement into the "Slipstream" abilitity for the Ramuh phase, so they get expended. I suppose it wouldn't even be necessary to include Attunement for my version of Ramuh, I was just trying to be consistent, but clearly there are some flaws.

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The reason I pointed it out is because, under your current system, there is technically no limit to how often you can use the Rite/Catastrophe from Gemshine. With the summons, the amount of times you can use the Rites is then dictated on how many stacks of Attunement you have, which you did do for Levi/Shiva. On the flipside, Favours are used by Astral Flow and they tend to have different effects. Notably, long cast, gap closer combo or an oGCD follow up. This means, with different summons, you can have different ways to proc a Favour. Garuda and Ifrit just give a Favour outright, but Titan gains them from using Topaz Rite. However, why stop there? For Ramuh, you can do something that might be interesting. You channel the Rite and however many stacks you got to when casting the rite changes something about Fury of the Fey, like reducing the cast time or adding a scalable DoT. For Shiva, as something that came to mind, I personally see the Astral Flow as a waste, however, if I were to change it, whilst keeping the concept, the ice floor is automatic upon summoning Shiva, as you use the rites whilst in this ice patch, it ticks damage on every enemy in the ice patch (similar to Ninja's Doton being proced by certain actions), then the Favour is used at the end as a final big hit, similar to Dark Knight's Salt and Darkness.

In short, Attunements and Favours are ultimately there to restrict how much you can do in each summon phase and effectively force you to use the next summon, how that happens, doesn't matter, just that it does.

To be clear, if it wasn't obvious, I'm not wholly against your ideas and to be honest, it is one of the better job suggestions I have read. However, upon writing this, I realised I forgot to include the actual summon time in the calcs in the previous post, oh well.

at this point i just hope we can get alexander but fat chance we will get another palette swap of phoenix, lemme guess a lunar phoenix?

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

at this point i just hope we can get alexander but fat chance we will get another palette swap of phoenix, lemme guess a lunar phoenix?

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Solar Phoenix, as we had Lunar Bahamut.

Wish is angry Temu got to supply the crappy new summon last time, so they want to weight in. :D

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Originally Posted by Carighan

Solar Phoenix, as we had Lunar Bahamut.

Wish is angry Temu got to supply the crappy new summon last time, so they want to weight in. :D

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didn't it call solar bahamut?

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

didn't it call solar bahamut?

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Could be. Granted. As if I acknowledge Temu Bahamut enough to bother reading its actual name, that'd unduly legitimize it. Looks lunar-y though.