UP/DOWN does not target party members while casting beneficial spells

SE, Thank you for working on Patch 16a. I am very impressed that you continue to work on FFXIV during such a difficult time for Japan.

I am very glad you have added the ability to target party members using UP/DOWN on the controller. I was disappointed to find that I cannot use this targeting method while casting Cure.

As a controller user, when I press UP/DOWN I select Action Bars 1, 2 and 3. Then I select an Ability. At this time I am prompted to select a target, but UP/DOWN does nothing. UP/DOWN does not target party members while casting beneficial spells, which is when I need it most.

Please make UP/DOWN target party members while casting beneficial spells.

Thank you,
- Who

[dev1035] Improvement of Targeting Modes

Smashington, you have to put the "dev tags" on the "Tags for this Thread" section (botton part of the page), not on the body of the post. Anyways, I've added the tag for you :)

On the other hand, notice that there's a template you should fulfill in order to help the dev team when reporting bugs.

Here's the link to the stickied thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...wfull=1#post83

Here's the template so you can just copy-paste it :)

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I appreciate the assistance to format this correctly Umo.

Ya, this was one of my biggest peeves when playing this game is how hard it was to quickly cure a party member with a controller. after playing awhile i just started starting using the aoe or not taking my target of the person taking the most dmg, just doesnt work good when hate changes and u gotta scramble.

I'd love it if they'd just give us the targetting functionality of XI's macros. I really, really miss <stpt>, <stpc>, <stnpc>, etc...

Whilst in target mode b you can press left are right to scroll through party members after selecting the spell, obviously you have to have party selected on the targeting icon.

This is one of my bigger annoyances as well.

I can hit up/down on my D-pad (controller) to target party members, but if I select cure/protect etc, up/down no longer do anything.

I have no doubt this will be addressed before the PS3 launch (it really hurts controller play), but I'm really hoping it's addressed much sooner.

Well you dont have to put dev tags for bugs... they will find it

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Whilst in target mode b you can press left are right to scroll through party members after selecting the spell, obviously you have to have party selected on the targeting icon.

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The problem with left/right is that when party members are moving around they can cause you to skip the charcter you are trying to target, then you have to scroll around again, then they move again, so you try hitting the other way to get back to them, but they are now behind someone in an area that is not targetable, so you move to get a better angle -

by this time they are dead.

Greetings, Smashington!
Thank you for posting your concerns about the new targetting modes. I can understand how frustrating it can be to be unable to target players when trying to cure other players. Just for further clarification, though, can you please state which targetting mode have you experienced this trouble in? It would be a great help to us if you were able to provide this information. Also, here are the notes for the commands for the different targetting modes, just in case this information proves to be helpful with your situation:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ch-1.16a-Notes

Thanks again for your participation!

I'm not Smashington, but I just tried both Targeting Mode A, and Targeting Mode B, and neither allow Up/Down targeting during the "Select a target." window.


To replicate:
- Place Cure on your action bar.
- Hit the key corresponding to Cure.
- You are asked to select a target.
- Try your Up/Down arrow keys.
- Nothing happens.




In Target Mode A, up/down targets PT members, but not when selecting a target for a spell.

In Target Mode B, up/down changes targeting parameter instead, and does nothing when selecting a target for a spell.


At the very least, this will have to be improved before the PS3 launch, but the sooner it can be addressed, the better.
Left/Right targeting is ineffective with moving targets- up/down using the party list order allows players to quickly and accurately react.


See FFXI's controller/gamepad targeting for reference ._.

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Originally Posted by Baccanale

Greetings, Smashington!
Thank you for posting your concerns about the new targetting modes. I can understand how frustrating it can be to be unable to target players when trying to cure other players. Just for further clarification, though, can you please state which targetting mode have you experienced this trouble in? It would be a great help to us if you were able to provide this information. Also, here are the notes for the commands for the different targetting modes, just in case this information proves to be helpful with your situation:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ch-1.16a-Notes

Thanks again for your participation!

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Baccanale,

This problem occurs while in both Target Mode A and Target Mode B.

UP/DOWN does not select party members, or highlight party members list, while sub-targeting (while casting a spell).

Thank you for your reply.

Greetings again, Smashington!
Thank you for responding to my previous question about which targetting mode that you have experienced this in. While we do prefer that the form in the introductory sticky note be filled out for these types of reports to conduct an investigation that is as thorough as possible (thanks again, Umo, for posting the form on the thread!), it seems that you have provided enough information for an investigation, so I will make sure to submit this information to the development team. I recommend keeping a look out for any news to be posted on this thread. Thanks again for your report, and to the rest of you for your participation!

Greetings once more, Smashington!
Thank you for your patience while waiting for a response to your report. Unfortunately, after a thorough investigation, the development team could not find any problems with the targeting system, based on the information that you have provided. If you continue to experience these troubles, I recommend posting another report with as much detailed information that you can provide, in order to make sure that everything can be covered in the investigation. Thanks again for your patience, and I hope everything works out well for you soon!