Pilgrim's Traverse rewards are....

Complete garbage! What the heck were they thinking? I was so hyped for this but after seeing the rewards that you can get, killed the hype for me. All you get is a title for completing it in the hardest mode.. Who thought that was a good idea?? You dont get sweet looking Glam with cool effects on it for completing it. No mount. NOTHING! You get a title.

Once you get it done there's no reason to do it again.

This is BAD.

YoshyP you are killing this game.

because 3 or 4 mounts, hairstyles, minions and different titles arent good enough

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

because 3 or 4 mounts, hairstyles, minions and different titles arent good enough

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The mounts look horrible, and we should be getting exclusive rewards for completing it on the hardest mode.. its horrible

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

The mounts look horrible, and we should be getting exclusive rewards for completing it on the hardest mode.. its horrible

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you get an exclusive title and a gold treasure chest

Arguments like these are EXACTLY why I wish Square Enix would stop listening to 'fans'. Constructive criticism is fine, but this doesnt sound constructive. It sounds like a personal gripe to be honest.
Players all want different things and gripe and moan everytime SE does ANYTHING to try to give them new content/rewards but when that content comes it's never good enough.

Let SE return to making the game they want to make and deciding what rewards they want to provide. It wont matter anyways but is a damn sight better than listening to players whine and complain every 5 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Complete garbage! What the heck were they thinking? I was so hyped for this but after seeing the rewards that you can get, killed the hype for me. All you get is a title for completing it in the hardest mode.. Who thought that was a good idea?? You dont get sweet looking Glam with cool effects on it for completing it. No mount. NOTHING! You get a title.

Once you get it done there's no reason to do it again.

This is BAD.

YoshyP you are killing this game.

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Did you even get to floor 100 in Palace of the Dead, Miguel? You get a title by clearing floors 1-100 in one go. Maybe instead of complaining about FFXIV, you should play more of the game or go back to WoW like you say you want to do on Facebook.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Arguments like these are EXACTLY why I wish Square Enix would stop listening to 'fans'. Constructive criticism is fine, but this doesnt sound constructive. It sounds like a personal gripe to be honest.
Players all want different things and gripe and moan everytime SE does ANYTHING to try to give them new content/rewards but when that content comes it's never good enough.

Let SE return to making the game they want to make and deciding what rewards they want to provide. It wont matter anyways but is a damn sight better than listening to players whine and complain every 5 seconds.

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You should see him complain and moan on the FFXIV Facebook groups. He complains that FFXIV needs to be more like WoW.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Did you even get to floor 100 in Palace of the Dead, Miguel? You get a title by clearing floors 1-100 in one go. Maybe instead of complaining about FFXIV, you should play more of the game or go back to WoW like you say you want to do on Facebook.



You should see him complain and moan on the FFXIV Facebook groups. He complains that FFXIV needs to be more like WoW.

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This is the first time we have gotten a boss that's close to a Ultimate..the rewards should've been better and if you don't think that the youre the issue and reason why this game is losing subscribers

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Arguments like these are EXACTLY why I wish Square Enix would stop listening to 'fans'. Constructive criticism is fine, but this doesnt sound constructive. It sounds like a personal gripe to be honest.
Players all want different things and gripe and moan everytime SE does ANYTHING to try to give them new content/rewards but when that content comes it's never good enough.

Let SE return to making the game they want to make and deciding what rewards they want to provide. It wont matter anyways but is a damn sight better than listening to players whine and complain every 5 seconds.

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Well, it sounds more like he's echoing Xeno than anything else. Personally, I think the reward system is a bit similar to our edge case for Criterion: Where rewards were too little for the difficulty offered. It's a pretty big blunder for them to plod on as usual until 8.0 while the game's losing its playerbase because they aren't making content that'll last - getting to Floor 100 is still rough as is with randoms, but it's all just for unlocking a glorified Trial since I heard that you just get more rolls on the gamba for your time(which is a pretty horrid way to do things for Quantum, imo; reminds me of how they treated CODCAR rewards with what's required).

If anything, harder content needs to have good rewards behind it as well, otherwise imagine if the Savage Tier had only a Title? That'd rile up the entirety of the Raiding Scene(as if rewards from Savage aren't already bad due to lockout lasting for months as is just for any vertical progression). Looking at both ends of the spectrum here though, I can understand somewhat why they didn't do it: Because of the Axolotl Incident in P12S. People complained to hell and back about a cute mount being locked behind Savage, and to be honest? Incentive is really what drives people to do these kinds of content - like for instance I remember someone who did Savage just for a body glamour back in Eden - that kind of stuff.

So if it's more stick than carrot, what's the point in doing it?

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Did you even get to floor 100 in Palace of the Dead, Miguel? You get a title by clearing floors 1-100 in one go. Maybe instead of complaining about FFXIV, you should play more of the game or go back to WoW like you say you want to do on Facebook.



You should see him complain and moan on the FFXIV Facebook groups. He complains that FFXIV needs to be more like WoW.

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Bro i hope you get at least 1$ for this post. q15-40 is dead on arrival.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Arguments like these are EXACTLY why I wish Square Enix would stop listening to 'fans'. Constructive criticism is fine, but this doesnt sound constructive. It sounds like a personal gripe to be honest.
Players all want different things and gripe and moan everytime SE does ANYTHING to try to give them new content/rewards but when that content comes it's never good enough.

Let SE return to making the game they want to make and deciding what rewards they want to provide. It wont matter anyways but is a damn sight better than listening to players whine and complain every 5 seconds.

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Damn, I wish SE actually listened to me. Do you have any group of fans that I could sign up to that SE is known to listen to? I'd really be interested

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Bro i hope you get at least 1$ for this post. q15-40 is dead on arrival.

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They aren't wrong though.
There is feedback and there is whatever OP is doing.

This patch usually doesn't even have something for the hardcore raiders but here we are with a mini ultimate that even gives a title and yet there is moaning and all that.


I also think quantum will die out but what OP wants is just more bragging right rewards here.
No, q40 does not need more rewards or anything because even now it's the only thing I see in PF (which is something people rightfully warned about) because anything lower is simply not worth the effort given the difficulty of the boss for the larger part of the playerbase.


The last thing this game needs is more catering to the top of the top.
The rewards are fine as they are. What this fight needs is not more carrots for the highest difficulty but for the lower ones.
A title is enough of a reward imo.


Not to say anything of the crappy tone of OP.
As much as I also give critique. If I were a dev, I would simply ignore them tbh.

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+1 to bl, i simply ignore white knights, who do not even play game

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So you are simply yet another child that uses that word without meaning.
Call me what you want. You aren't even worth any further replies.
The hate boner of some of you for this game is astonishing.
Being on your blacklist is a badge of honor tbh.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

They aren't wrong though.
There is feedback and there is whatever OP is doing.

This patch usually doesn't even have something for the hardcore raiders but here we are with a mini ultimate that even gives a title and yet there is moaning and all that.


I also think quantum will die out but what OP wants is just more bragging right rewards here.
No, q40 does not need more rewards or anything because even now it's the only thing I see in PF (which is something people rightfully warned about) because anything lower is simply not worth the effort given the difficulty of the boss for the larger part of the playerbase.


The last thing this game needs is more catering to the top of the top.
The rewards are fine as they are. What this fight needs is not more carrots for the highest difficulty but for the lower ones.
A title is enough of a reward imo.


Not to say anything of the crappy tone of OP.
As much as I also give critique. If I were a dev, I would simply ignore them tbh.

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+1 to bl, i simply ignore white knights, who do not even play game

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

They aren't wrong though.
There is feedback and there is whatever OP is doing.

This patch usually doesn't even have something for the hardcore raiders but here we are with a mini ultimate that even gives a title and yet there is moaning and all that.


I also think quantum will die out but what OP wants is just more bragging right rewards here.
No, q40 does not need more rewards or anything because even now it's the only thing I see in PF (which is something people rightfully warned about) because anything lower is simply not worth the effort given the difficulty of the boss for the larger part of the playerbase.


The last thing this game needs is more catering to the top of the top.
The rewards are fine as they are. What this fight needs is not more carrots for the highest difficulty but for the lower ones.
A title is enough of a reward imo.


Not to say anything of the crappy tone of OP.
As much as I also give critique. If I were a dev, I would simply ignore them tbh.

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So you are simply yet another child that uses that word without meaning.
Call me what you want. You aren't even worth any further replies.
The hate boner of some of you for this game is astonishing.
Being on your blacklist is a badge of honor tbh.

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The rewards suck dawg.

A title and choice of materia for farming this?

Ehhh.... no thanks. Content will be dead before the expansion is even over. If there was an exclusive mount from killing the big guy it'd be fine, but a title? Nobody even knows where Necromancer comes from for petes sake. Never mind GETTING it.

Only 4 people required to learn a braindead 100% scripted choreography that will be the same the first and the 1000th time obviously isn't enough for Yoshida to hand out good rewards. It has to be 8 and more artificial wall/difficulty.

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Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost

The rewards suck dawg.

A title and choice of materia for farming this?

Ehhh.... no thanks. Content will be dead before the expansion is even over. If there was an exclusive mount from killing the big guy it'd be fine, but a title? Nobody even knows where Necromancer comes from for petes sake. Never mind GETTING it.

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Then you would have people being annoyed because of no title or if both was there because of no weapons.

The content wouldn't live much longer with a mount instead of a title or both anyway.
It is hidden behind a deep dungeon, that is behind 50 floors of another one, at the highest difficulty needing items to even do.
The shelf life was always destined to be short because of that (which I tbh find stupid on their part as well). Even with a mount you wouldn't safe that.

I don't mind feedback on the rewards. That in my first post is simply my opinion in that i think the target audience for that fight has no real ground to be angry over it given they now go no patch without content going forward.
What I took issue in the first place was OP's tone and the idiotic post of the one I quoted before.

That's all from me regarding this topic.
Have a nice day.

Do you mean the Quantum trial?

You'd be correct if so but that's not Pilgrim's Traverse, the Deep Dungeon, which does have rewards. The Quantum "rewards" are very disappointing, I don't see that content lasting a long time without a reason to do the higher difficulties.

calling it close to ultimate is overselling it. bro is pretending like the sheer perseverance required to get Necromancer title didn't set a precedent for this. obvs q40 won't be popular but there's a reason for that. criterion savage was also just there for the masochists lol (except for the meme weapons with glow ig)

Okay I'm going to skip through most of these replies because there is way too much hate there.
In my honest opinion, I think the general rewards for the DD/Quantum fight (+0) are fine. I also like the title for +40. However, there's not really a reason to do it again after that. Any other rewards you get are easily obtainable from the DD itself. It would be nice if there was something extra to encourage players to keep doing it, aside from maybe once or twice to help a friend clear for the title. Even if they just increase the number of sacks you get or something.

I think sometimes fights just being insane and hard are good, a lot of my friends and some creators are saying how Q40 was so much fun to prog and clear, even if it isn't something they will farm as Q15 will be better. They still get a title and a SOLID amount of sacks at that level.

But also I'm just interested in how Quantum is handled in the future now. This is their first shot at it I didn't expect it to be perfect, its why I really want a 2nd Chaotic AR because as a whole I really enjoyed Chaotic Cloud of Darkness even if there was some notable flaws (Reward wise honestly not too much mainly in how mechanics should/could be handled) cause look at things like even Cosmic, the updates in 7.3 were really enjoyable and they did some things to reduce friction and complaints. I don't think Quantum is BAD I just think the rewards for 40 could be a bit better, and just a solid fight behind it too. But next time, I hope they add to it. Look at base Eureka they updated the hell out of that and branched it into other content and it is a lot better

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Arguments like these are EXACTLY why I wish Square Enix would stop listening to 'fans'. Constructive criticism is fine, but this doesnt sound constructive. It sounds like a personal gripe to be honest.
Players all want different things and gripe and moan everytime SE does ANYTHING to try to give them new content/rewards but when that content comes it's never good enough.

Let SE return to making the game they want to make and deciding what rewards they want to provide. It wont matter anyways but is a damn sight better than listening to players whine and complain every 5 seconds.

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I just hope that SE uses a bell curve on comments and trims the outliers, the weird comments and ones that dont exactly make sense.

P.S. We got Alexander Gordias Pepsi Man because the devs listened to the players... just remember... Pepsi Man, the killer of statics, the one who almost single handedly nearly wiped raiding from the face of the game.

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Originally Posted by 0blivion

calling it close to ultimate is overselling it. bro is pretending like the sheer perseverance required to get Necromancer title didn't set a precedent for this. obvs q40 won't be popular but there's a reason for that. criterion savage was also just there for the masochists lol (except for the meme weapons with glow ig)

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Personal taste, but I find most of the glowy criterion weapons a lot better than actual meme ugly figment weapons. Really wish they had thought more about rewards for crit savage. such a wasted opportunity. and yet, going back for a fourth, so it (Alo) has at least some repeatability.

More rewards is my opinion. We dont all have to agree. I dont understand why its only a title and tokens for q40.

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Originally Posted by Zoreth

More rewards is my opinion. We dont all have to agree. I dont understand why its only a title and tokens for q40.

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I consider Q40 an early access technology demonstration, they wanted to get player reaction on a technical level and also to show the hardcore players that they can make content that can be enjoyed across all difficulties. This is why it starts at Q15 which is the beginning of hard where Q1 is story mode and up from there.

The real Quantum will begin next forked tower. The existing 8 and 24 player raids have already been set so they won’t quantum those. I expect 8.0 to be the major rollout of quantum for all content. Thanks to the Quantum system, those players who want mythic level difficulties will finally get them.

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I consider Q40 an early access technology demonstration, they wanted to get player reaction on a technical level and also to show the hardcore players that they can make content that can be enjoyed across all difficulties. This is why it starts at Q15 which is the beginning of hard where Q1 is story mode and up from there.

The real Quantum will begin next forked tower. The existing 8 and 24 player raids have already been set so they won’t quantum those. I expect 8.0 to be the major rollout of quantum for all content. Thanks to the Quantum system, those players who want mythic level difficulties will finally get them.

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I hope they do this for all new dungeons aswell.

I think they should put all different types of rewards for new content to attract everyone to come do it.
I think this mainly because, they put all different types of rewards into the cash shop and then tell us to pay $30 for it, so I don't think it's that they don't know what to think of, they seem to have lots of ideas for the cash shop, so I think it's reasonable that they come up with good ideas for rewards for playing the video game that we pay $15 a month play, too.

"But those are two different-"BURPSREALLYLOUDLY anyway so I think they should just put more rewards. Very simple solution, actually. More types. All types! Get creative. They make millions of dollars, get creative.

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Complete garbage! What the heck were they thinking? I was so hyped for this but after seeing the rewards that you can get, killed the hype for me. All you get is a title for completing it in the hardest mode.. Who thought that was a good idea?? You dont get sweet looking Glam with cool effects on it for completing it. No mount. NOTHING! You get a title.

Once you get it done there's no reason to do it again.

This is BAD.

YoshyP you are killing this game.

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You mean Quantum, right? If so, yeah... very disappointing for such a great content.

q40 is peak. I loved it. stay angy.