Shareholders: why login numbers dwindling down, fix that!
Square: lets make relic forced 10 day slop grind tied to roulettes, why make new content for OC.
The fact that you can't spam what you want is atrocious. I did 180 normal raids for bozja relic but this "help botters to do roulettes daily" is horrible.
Give 2nd step grind inside OC. Like now idc, terrible patch that was not worth of waiting for. Why was this even drip feeded till 2nd september??????????????
And to add a salt to an injury, it looks like 2nd step is just another stats boost, nothing OC related AGAIN. Why these quests are even tied to OC if we can't get at least +1/40 stat bonus?
Where is OC related relic step grind/way?
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09-03-2025, 01:56 AMStasyaWhere is OC related relic step grind/way?
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09-03-2025, 02:01 AMRaoabolicWhy would a game where you have to pay monthly drip feed it's players? It is a mystery~!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stasya
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09-03-2025, 02:05 AMDaralii
The problem there is that OC has nothing but a glorified hunt train and Forked Tower. If the step was doing roulettes or killing mobs and completing FATEs/CEs in South Horn, it'd be better, but that's still grinding the same pitiful number of encounters that people have been grinding since May.
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09-03-2025, 02:42 AMJeeqbit
Players: Forced time-gated tedious grind. Let us do it in 1 day.
SE: Ok.
Players: It's done-in-a-day content. Lazy.
SE: Ok, it'll take a while this time.
Repeat. SE can't win. -
09-03-2025, 02:52 AMRaoabolictedium is in the eye of the beholder. Why would someone who hates tedium play an MMO, mr. SE employee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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09-03-2025, 02:56 AMseolhyun
OC doesnt have multiple zones like eureka and no normal raids like bozja. theres nothing left to grind in there
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09-03-2025, 03:22 AMEphremjlmC'mon gang, let's head to the old Quarrymill. If we work together, we solve this mystery!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoabolic
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09-03-2025, 03:49 AMShialan
[QUOTE=Raoabolic;6748209]Why would a game where you have to pay monthly drip feed it's players? It is a mystery~!
Would be a good argument if Yoshida wouldn't tell players to just not sub if they don't like the content. -
09-03-2025, 03:57 AMTurtledeluxe
I definitely agree that the relics do not feel rewarding enough to merit the step design. I also think overall the process of gaining a relic does not feel modular enough.
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09-03-2025, 04:06 AMValence
Relics don't work because they're trying to make people grind content that has terrible shelf life and horrible repeatability. Almost anythingin this game can be fun the first couple of times, but then it just loses all its magic and turns into a chore.
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09-03-2025, 04:09 AMAonns
More complaints by the couch coders. Imagine if you all just pooled together and made your own MMO.
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09-03-2025, 05:51 AMbrinn12
Square Enix expected people to sub in October to complete the entire 7.3. I have no other explanation.
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09-03-2025, 07:58 AMForteNightshadeExcept he doesn't He never mentions unsubbing, but just that you can take breaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shialan
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09-07-2025, 03:37 AMShialan
You do realize that he knows that "taking a break" also means unsubbing, right?
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09-07-2025, 05:39 AMRaoabolicSo the solution is to take breaks but keep giving SE your cash? This fanbase is beyond cooked, lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForteNightshade
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09-07-2025, 05:49 AMCNitsah
The bonus is only between 1/6 and 1/3 of the total point gained. you could farm them. My problem lie with the alliance raid roulette. Alliance raid roulette always had the problem that ARR raids were over represented, because they're the small denominator AND they're mandatory for the story. Combined with the fact lower lvl dungeon/trial/raids give less point, the alliance raid roulette ask more run that the other, while an average is as long as Trial and raid roulettes combined. alliance raid roulette should give at least 1.5 time the number of points it currently gives to be in the league with others.
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09-07-2025, 10:50 AMAvoidyThey dip into every monetization excuse they can find. Drip feed for the sub model. Cash shop with cosmetics during a content drought like it's a f2p model. Pay to change your eye color like it's f2p. Pay for each expansion, so it's buy to play. The players get the worst of every monetization system, it's great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoabolic
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09-07-2025, 07:47 PMCNitsahOk, I was wrong, I have more to complain about. I got 247 points for necron today. it seems they put something in place like "the more a content is done, the less it gives points". But since the content are chosen randomly, this feels like a punition. Once again the RNG make everything frustrating. Honestly, I was fine with atma rng drop rate, even if I think it need a vendor that exchange atmas at a rate for the end of the farm, when you got 7 of one or 2 color and only 1 of your only missing color. But this... At least I see myself progress with every dungeon/raid/alliance raid I do, but man, this is a bummer. Every time I get over one negative, new one appears out of nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by CNitsah
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09-07-2025, 08:07 PMVeyaAkemiThe prevailing theory currently is that it is based on average completion time of a duty, which the devs should have data for, The Chrysalis gives more than any other ARR Trial despite coming up very often, most raids give on average 100 points independent of expansion, since they tend to be completed on an average of 4-5 minutes, but DT Arcadion raids specifically give over 200 a pop, since those take 8-10 minutes, Nier Alliance Raids give the most out of any Alliance Raid, with Tower breaking the bank and giving a cap of 999, because Nier raids take longest of any Alliance Raid.Quote:
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Assuming that's correct, I haven't a clue how new content will be rated, since things like Trials and Normal Raids fall into roulette immediately upon release, but perhaps they will have data from their own internal testing. -
09-07-2025, 08:21 PMHallaremThis. He a 100% means; keep paying but fill your time with other games because we cant keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForteNightshade
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09-07-2025, 09:19 PMMitsukiKimura
I think it's funny honestly I seen more people whine and moan about the drop rate RNG of the demi crystals then something with less RNG comes out and they still whine and complain. Some people just can't be satisfied with anything. Go outside and breathe some fresh air.
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09-07-2025, 09:26 PMVeyaAkemiYou are making the mistake of assuming the people who dislike the Demiatma RNG are the same people who dislike the current fixed step. Or maybe it's a deliberate strawman, hard to tell with these forums, don't take it personally if you are being sincere.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura
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09-07-2025, 09:51 PMMitsukiKimurahttps://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...bly-depressingQuote:
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09-07-2025, 10:05 PMVeyaAkemiI... am sorry? what does that have to do with anything? the complaint in that thread is about using tomestones for relics, something that is constant between Penumbrae and Umbrae steps, not about the demiatmas, anyone who has an issue with that aspect will have an issue with both steps, because nothing has changed between them, it's the exact same complaint about the exact same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura
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09-08-2025, 02:02 AMStasyayou get arr trial 30 points or goldbez 200 points take it or leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura
Anyway, judging by your comment you just go +1 to blacklist. -
09-08-2025, 04:45 AMMitsukiKimurahttps://i.imgflip.com/7ou87b.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Stasya