Glamour Dresser/Plates 800/800 isn't enough... Please!

As a collector of the armors of the game, 800 slots is not enough. I enjoy the challenge of mixing and matching the armors to make a unique look. I play every piece of content of this game, and I enjoy it, I haven't tackled ultimates yet, but I'm on my way to it since most of the other content is done for me.

Some of your armors while same armor, has a different color pallet AND there are some colors that you can't dye (aka abyssos fending, that black is nowhere in the dye system)

The Job armors alone 22 combat + 11 Crafting + gathering = 33 jobs (Yes I like to try and glam my crafting and gathering classes.)
And normally the job armors are the 5 left slots, that's 165 pieces with just 1 set (DT all jobs) We have had multiple expansions with more artifact armors just the job armors alone put us at 200/800 if not more.

Then comes some dungeon armors that are different color pallets than the crafted versions. SOME armors aren't even craftable OR dyeable - example (Wolf armor from Grand Cosmos)

Your combination of armors + weapons for a system like this WILL fill the glam dresser very very quickly.

I'll use Vanguard dungeon as an example as it contains something for every job (DT)
That's 56 slots filled. (armors and weapon) This is just 1 dungeon. If I collect armors from just dungeons alone (the ones I obviously like)

Yuewatta Station has some cute looking armors
Grand Cosmos
The Burn
And more.

These are just dungeons, I haven't even included Relics, Extreme (weapons), Alliance Raids, Savages, and Ultimates.

I've really tried to pick a theme, but sometimes I want to change out of it. Be a cute knight, be an edgelord, cyberpunk, doman, ala mhigan, etc etc.

There is not enough room for most of the armors of this game. The change to the lvl 1 armors all being put together is a nice but the dyes do not remain on dyed armors I already have in my glam dresser. I lost my jet black dye on a chest piece because I merged it. Fine, I'll deal with it.

It's an ok system, it has a market for dyes and armor collection (through crafting) but the 800 slots is not enough and nor is the 20 glam plates.

I don't want to believe you're forcing me to buy 5+ retainers. I understand it's my choice to do so, but I also believe there should be a middle ground to this system that we already pay for.

Whatever thoughts. Just my take.

Agreed and upvote!

There should be enough glamour plates should cover all classes DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH.

The number of glamour dresser slots should also be doubled.

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Originally Posted by ShiyuuHQ

Yes I like to try and glam my crafting and gathering classes

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I also love to glam my crafting and gathering classes~ ❤️

To this day, I still glam my gatherers in the ARR Artifact set, and my crafters in the Artisan set! :)

A glamour log is pretty much a necessity at this point and if tying achievements to it, it would revive essentially all content in the game. Also make every single piece of gear dyeable or have an option to be so like with Savage or augmented tome pieces!

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Originally Posted by Aco505

A glamour log is pretty much a necessity at this point and if tying achievements to it, it would revive essentially all content in the game. Also make every single piece of gear dyeable or have an option to be so like with Savage or augmented tome pieces!

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Definitely… at this point I have taken advantage of the new outfit glamour feature, and pared down my dresser significantly, but I’m still at 770/800. I’ve hit that 800 max several times! And I have extra retainers that are filled to the brim with spare armor I’m keeping just for glam purposes. There will come a point where even with max retainers, one cannot possibly hold all the gear they want to keep in the game! With the outfit glamour, it’s also led me to collect entire sets, just with the idea that maybe I will be able to combine them as an outfit in the future, which I believe they did say they were planning on at one point.

So I’d definitely support a glamour log. But if we don’t get that, I would propose moving ALL AF gear to the Armoire. They might already be leaning in that direction, as I noticed that the Armoire has added headings under the AF gear tab (even though you can only currently put the ARR sets in there), similar to how they’re dividing up seasonal and mog gear. That alone would make a significant difference for my glamour dresser. And also, if they would apply the outfit system to regular dungeon/raid gear as well as the level 1 glams. Plus the starter gear for each race, as they are level 1 and seem to have been skipped.

Even with those changes I would suggest upping the storage limit to an even 1000, unless they can figure out how to allow pieces in an outfit set allow dyes to be applied and saved. And the plates must be increased each time they have a new job, to ensure that each job has at minimum one plate. All jobs, meaning battle, crafting, gathering and don’t forget the limited jobs, BLU and upcoming BST! If the number of the jobs is uneven and makes the UI look weird, then fill it out with extra bonus plates and future-proof it for awhile. I’m thinking we have 30-some jobs, so 40 plates for now, maybe 50 if they really want to be proactive about it.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

And I have extra retainers that are filled to the brim with spare armor I’m keeping just for glam purposes. There will come a point where even with max retainers, one cannot possibly hold all the gear they want to keep in the game!

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The game has a storage limit issue. Stuff like baits and dyes should have their own UI inventory that doesn't take normal slots. Then other things such as finished relics occupying space and not being able to put the replica in the armoire or currency like Savage books or potsherds not having their own UI inventory either simply bloat our inventory over time.

I wished I had more. Especially since more headwear is now availabe on Hrothgar and Viera. And I was capped out before it, so ....

Yeah.

Unless they add a catalogue system that simul simplifies both server side storage and player UI side storage... nothing will ever be enough. The longer FF14 goes on the higher the glam dresser storage needs to be... which is bad because of the server related costs. Something more efficient, like what WoW seems to use, is needed for FF14.

Agreed, a system overhaul is what's needed long term. Even when he upgraded us to 800 slots, Yoshi said something to the effect of "soon you'll be asking me for even more" because he knew this would eventually happen since the solution was just kicking the can down the road. And now here we are.

I started to just ignore glamour rewards if they are not something I would 100% use. I just don't have space for stuff that I may or may not use. So unless it's an Outfit that I will definitely use, it goes straight in the trash.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Stuff like baits and dyes should have their own UI inventory that doesn't take normal slots..

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Yeah, I've been on about a "tackle box off-hand" for fisher to hold baits and lures since 2.0

Years later, fisher finally gets an off-hand, and what do we get, effing spearfishing. I'm still kinda mad about that, ngl, lol.

After cleaning out my glam dresser, I ended up tossing all the AF gear sets apart from a few parts I know I 100% will want to make plates with, since you can easily re-buy most from NPC. I'm grateful they do unique glams for each job, every new expansion, but it's rough for me to hold them all together since they're for 1 job only, and I only make universal glam plates to save time and energy.

Currently at 650, so I just keep the main tops of dungeon gear, hats, and maybe pants/shoes if it's unique or looks bad w/o a full set. I have the Vanguard stuff on retainer since I spent so much time getting the clothes. I want to add more weapons, but I feel like I always rotate new weapons, so it's not worth it apart from old relics.

However, I do disagree, and that SE is 100% forcing players to buy extra retainers, not even 1 more free one after 11 years since I started, and the 2nd chocobo bag being locked is terrible as it's much smaller already than main inv.

I admit I don't use each and every glam item; just a good portion is from AR, and they are impossible to farm for glams or non-leveling dungeons.

They can start with doubling the glam plates. There should be at least one glam plate available for every class, including DoH and DoL. They keep adding this great looking scrip gear but they don't provide enough plates to allow your adventuring and tradeskilling classes to have their own identities.

After that they can look at expanding the dresser again, since they already did that once though it is also a valid need. The glam plates issue is going to get worse as they add more classes, though, so should be addressed first.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

There should be at least one glam plate available for every class, including DoH and DoL.

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This is so very true.
I have a lot of the class-specific gear just collecting dust since I can't wear them all, I had to use one of the limited glamour plates as a 'universal' crafter glamour for the ones that I couldn't fit into the current amount of plate slots being shared with battle jobs.

They just need to lift the glamour book from the mobile version, including how dyes work.

Even if it's not client side it could be. No good reason why this can't just be sorted in time for next patch. 1 per job (all disciplines), plus 10 liesure.
Honestly, there is so much jank, i don't the issue see the problem with just dumping this on the client.
Don't say multi-client either because the cross platform support is actually unplayable. Hotbars, cross bars, inventory, 1 sync per day.
I actually really appreciate all the efforts dev have made this expansion, right from the start. It's just tragic the mistakes they have made have wasted that effort by drowning them out. I mean kittens in bag rocks drowned, the mistakes have been unbearable. Just cant be ignored.
Just sort it.
Glamplates, dump it on the client.
It smells to me like there are some devs that are just abusing the trust non-devs have in them.
"Yes we can implement account protection client-side! That's an option on the table!"
I don't see how people can ever be expected to trust competency again. I want to but I can only BS myself so far.

Glamour Dresser should be doubled to 1600. My retainers are holding my gear, that shouldn't be a thing. This increase should have been implemented in Dawntrail already. It's long overdue, as is increasing the number of glamour plates. The game and the store keep coming out with new clothes but we're given no additional space to store it. If the glamour dresser size can't be further increased then a new system should be implemented, like GW2's Wardrobe Storage which has virtually unlimited capacity.

It's been said before, but it bears repeating;

Removing the job restrictions from most items would also help to free up space, as you'd no longer need to store 3-4 items which all appear identical but require different jobs to wear.

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Originally Posted by Underscore

It's been said before, but it bears repeating;

Removing the job restrictions from most items would also help to free up space, as you'd no longer need to store 3-4 items which all appear identical but require different jobs to wear.

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100% agreed. I have every pair of Purgatory earrings, even though they are exactly the same. I have the Star Velvet/Brightlinen outfit in there twice because one is caster and the other aiming. Plus all those Makai sets that are shared between more than one class.

What makes it more frustrating is that they have already done this in the past! But sometime around level 60 or so, they stopped going back and changing gear sets to “All Classes.” I know it would take time to go back and do them all, but since they’re going back into old sets anyways for the graphic updates and adding dye channels, this would be the perfect time to get it into the workflow.

Bottom line is they intend to keep the current system, then every expansion should increase the limit.

You can't just do it once and call it done, because the number of item collections both ingame and on mogstation just grows. I always thought that 800 was more than enough for me. Poor me, it wasn't - now I'm at capacity having to choose what I put there.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Bottom line is they intend to keep the current system, then every expansion should increase the limit.

You can't just do it once and call it done, because the number of item collections both ingame and on mogstation just grows. I always thought that 800 was more than enough for me. Poor me, it wasn't - now I'm at capacity having to choose what I put there.

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I'm not sure if you know but the event and cash shop outfits can go into the armoire which has no limit and you can still use them for glamour plates.

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

I'm not sure if you know but the event and cash shop outfits can go into the armoire which has no limit and you can still use them for glamour plates.

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I know, but you can't put dyed gear on the Armoire. I usually pre-dye stuff in expensive colors so I don't have to buy them every time...

But even ruling those out (which are just 8 items for me personally in my dresser), I'm still at 800/800, having to replace items if I come across something I like. Even my 2 retainers are full on 'just in case I want in the future' gear from places hard to farm, like Alliance Raids.

And funny is that I'm not even using the glamour dresser for weapons. Those are also stored with the retainer and my favorites are on my chocobo saddlebag. I don't put them on glamour plates because I realized I rarely swap weapon glams, so I do them manually.

Definitely agreed we need more dresser space, and now that I'm actively playing more than 1 job I'm feeling the pinch with plates, too.

Could we maybe get a compromise like letting us add the glamour-ready sets to the armoire or some other log system, since they can't be dyed or otherwise modified anyway, so that the dresser slots could be only for items you want to save with dyes on? And while they're doing that, let us group up more sets into one single item slot. There's a LOT of undyeable dropped gear in the game, at minimum ALL of that ought to be able to be saved as 1 set in the dresser; that would save a lot of room, and then they could move on to adding other types of items.

Alternatively, I'd like to see the glamour-ready sets let you dye them...but maybe just make it apply the dyes you choose to the entire set? So it's still serving the purpose of packaging the gear into a format that doesn't take up much data.
Also add accessory sets (or TO their corresponding sets) as well!

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I know, but you can't put dyed gear on the Armoire. I usually pre-dye stuff in expensive colors so I don't have to buy them every time...

But even ruling those out (which are just 8 items for me personally in my dresser), I'm still at 800/800, having to replace items if I come across something I like. Even my 2 retainers are full on 'just in case I want in the future' gear from places hard to farm, like Alliance Raids.

And funny is that I'm not even using the glamour dresser for weapons. Those are also stored with the retainer and my favorites are on my chocobo saddlebag. I don't put them on glamour plates because I realized I rarely swap weapon glams, so I do them manually.

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Yeah, I know what you mean I still have like 4 jet black dyes from trading in a gold feather, and I could never justify using them since they are so expensive, along with pure white :(

Finally, I removed my cash shop clothes, which went into the armoire, and old gear I never used, so I'm down to 600 now, but I added my new hats and weapons. Honestly, I rarely switch wep glams, but I only had to add them into the glam Dresser since I kept turning them into the GC when I meant to hold on to them for future ideas.

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Originally Posted by Underscore

Removing the job restrictions from most items would also help to free up space, as you'd no longer need to store 3-4 items which all appear identical but require different jobs to wear.

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Being able to merge jewelry models into a singular item for all appropriate classes as a reward from collecting them all would be great tbh. They can use the already existing outfit feature for it, but have it only accept Edenmete earrings for instance, then it spits out a singular Edenmete earring that all combat jobs can wear!

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

Honestly, I rarely switch wep glams, but I only had to add them into the glam Dresser since I kept turning them into the GC when I meant to hold on to them for future ideas.

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The GC is blind to anything inside your saddlebag! I often store glams in there until I am nearby a dresser to store them in, it prevents me from accidentally throwing them into the GC like you said (like the one time I donated my Ultimate PLD weapon...)

The developers created Glamour Sets, but I can't use them. Because one of the items is dyed an expensive white/black color, the entire set takes up 4-6 slots instead of just one. I also have 800/800 slots for the Glamourer, and my bags are completely full of three Retrainers with relics, ultimate weapons, and clothing. Every drop of cool gear, whether awarded at an event or dropped in a dungeon, forces me to throw out items I've worked hard to obtain but rarely worn. It's frustrating.
I also want to customize the appearance for each job. As a cook, I want a chef's set, not the standard gear for all crafters, etc. for each job.

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Originally Posted by Shistar

The GC is blind to anything inside your saddlebag! I often store glams in there until I am nearby a dresser to store them in, it prevents me from accidentally throwing them into the GC like you said (like the one time I donated my Ultimate PLD weapon...)

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Yeah! That's why I decided to stop using my chocobo as a dye drawer and now is my weapon carrier. Accidentally donated my 300k MGP Halicarnassus Sword... I have weapons in the retainers too, but the 'main glam weapons' I carry with the chocobo. Bad side of this is that I have to overload my regular inventory with dyes. :(

If you'd ask me, I would be willing to have the off-hand items merged with the main hand ones (but finding a way to keep their separate glamourability intact, for PLD reasons) and repurpose the off-hand item slots into a dedicated dye box.

I second that, also remove restrictions on gear added to the glamour dresser so you don't need multiple sets of the same thing, just other job.

With maybe making restrictions to ultra Job based stuff such as eg. heavy armor or full up healing/spellcaster/melee/ranged phys iconic stuff.

They need to start adding outfit sets for dungeon gear. I have every alliance raid set in my glamor dresser as those are the most annoying to obtain and if I could combine those I could save hundreds of slots.

Fully in support of increasing glam dresser space, adding more plates, and just generally giving us a lot more freedom for glams. A glamour log would be ideal, but if it's not possible then yeah, they need to be constantly increasing the glam dresser space and the amount of plates as they add more gear and new glams.

I want more plates and more dresser space, but at the same time, I know simply adding to those is putting a band-aid on the problem. There has to be a better way.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Yeah! That's why I decided to stop using my chocobo as a dye drawer and now is my weapon carrier. Accidentally donated my 300k MGP Halicarnassus Sword... I have weapons in the retainers too, but the 'main glam weapons' I carry with the chocobo. Bad side of this is that I have to overload my regular inventory with dyes. :(

If you'd ask me, I would be willing to have the off-hand items merged with the main hand ones (but finding a way to keep their separate glamourability intact, for PLD reasons) and repurpose the off-hand item slots into a dedicated dye box.

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Yeah, I use them both, but I forgot I had the saddlebag for the greater part of the decade, so I now use to for backup glams, and I moved most blue dyes to my main inv when I'd just be casually breaking down extra gear then I realized I just sacrificed the latest EXDR glam top, HQ crafted boots, or current dungeon glam weapon for an alt job :(

Also, it's odd I recognize the names of the items, but once I open the GC expert delivery, I just immediately start dumping in everything when I zone out.

What I mean is SE plz let us lock our items so I won't suffer in the future too.