Alt support

I will lead off that I probably have more alts than the average person, i have fun making characters and building their lore and can't afford to get fantasia everytime i feel like playing a new character, but even if you only have one or two I feel like there needs to be better support for players that have more than one character on an account.

In between patches I've been working on some lowbies, goofing around with quests i haven't done in a while, working on MSQ, crafting, or just silly things like putting together glams and gpose, and am finding it beyond frustrating trying to get things from my main over to my alts.
I'm a solo player and being unable to move items from character to character in game without assistance from other players is a unique problem I haven't run into in any other mmo I play.
I'm not looking for anything that's unlikely to be implemented like a collection system (that most mmos have), but at the very least the ability to easily transfer items from character to character, something like the company chest that's tied to your account (like the legacy bank in swtor) or just simply the ability to send mail to other characters on your account. I understand why mail is locked to only those on your friends list, but perhaps having alts be auto added to friends as a way to circumvent it.

This has been something I've been having difficulty with for a while, and where I do have alts that are on the same server in a FC together and can use the chest to move things around, as clunky as it is, I also have alts on different servers for various reasons and would like to avoid leaving them to rot until i get one caught up to support them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been running into this! :)

Although the support for it is better in other MMORPGs, I understand why it's not in this one since everything is obviously designed around just having one character.

They did make a feature recently to transfer settings between characters though, so maybe they do care about alts slightly after all.

Thankfully I have my main alt on my friends list so it's not an issue for me, but this is something that should have been added years ago for everyone.

I’d definitely like a personal chest akin to the FC chest (along with the ability to add rooms to personal plots and auto-add alts as tenants!), but unless they put them in the major cities like the FC chests, it wouldn’t be accessible without having housing. (Unless you can put them in apartments too? Can’t remember if you can do that with the current company chest or not…)

Sadly the closest method is shell Free Companys at the moment. Although even that has limits such as the inability to put treasure maps in the company chest. Also can't mail stuff to yourself unless its through a 2nd account which can be used for treasure map storage.

For the shell FC, you basically need a friend to setup an FC petition and you sign up with each of your characters into the FC. Then the FC leader relinquishes control of the FC to whichever character of yours is your primary.

I resulted to make a solo-FC with my alts to use the FC chest as shared storage, but here is my Alt wishlist:

- Ability to have a shared bank/storage and way to transfer items (The solo FC workaround is a-ok but prevents me from joining an actual FC since I cant use the chest for myself, plus, only works with alts on the same world)
- Ability to share SOME progression (Ex: Share dungeon unlocks, but not MSQ progress, would make roulettes more comfortable on alts)
- Ability to have a shared glamour dresser, at least for store items
- Ability to have emotes as account unlocks (PSO2 does this already and its great, makes emotes more valuable in the market as well)
- Ability to Swap characters with more ease (Black desert is the perfect example of this done well)
- Ability to check alt inventories without having to swap to them (again, BDO does this already very well), this includes currencies, and how many weekly tomes they have pending
- Ability to use the iseach command to look for items in alts as well (iallsearch perhaps?)

yeah, more alt support!!

in eso your ID is your account and not each character own their own. so on your friendlist you dont just have a character but the account. which means you can switch between characters and have access to the same friendlist. (and also to all 5 guilds you can join)
now its obviously programmed completely different but still i would love a shared friend list and i think it would be nice for linkshells as well.

shared glam dresser is an amazing idea.... they should absolutely build that in if they ever come around to give us a proper glam storage/catalogue/collection/wardrobe.... hey dreaming is allowed.
would also solve the issue with shop glams only getting bought for a single character.... or do i have to assume this company is hungry for money?

back to topic: a shared inventory is something i would like as well and a good point to start.

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Originally Posted by Asako

Thankfully I have my main alt on my friends list so it's not an issue for me, but this is something that should have been added years ago for everyone.

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How did you do this??

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Originally Posted by Asari5

yeah, more alt support!!

in eso your ID is your account and not each character own their own. so on your friendlist you dont just have a character but the account. which means you can switch between characters and have access to the same friendlist. (and also to all 5 guilds you can join)
now its obviously programmed completely different but still i would love a shared friend list and i think it would be nice for linkshells as well.

shared glam dresser is an amazing idea.... they should absolutely build that in if they ever come around to give us a proper glam storage/catalogue/collection/wardrobe.... hey dreaming is allowed.
would also solve the issue with shop glams only getting bought for a single character.... or do i have to assume this company is hungry for money?

back to topic: a shared inventory is something i would like as well and a good point to start.

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oh man yes, i didn't even want to bring up the mogstation stuff being single character for everything except a few mounts (same for the merch related minions) because that's a whole nother frustration. (anything you have to pay real money for should be account wide by default, especially for how much they're charging with these glam sets)
and I love the sound of that shared friendlist and the shared glam dresser! it reminds me of how bnet works for wow currently. that you can have character specific friends but also bnet friends that can be viewed no matter the character (or sub account) you're on, and the collection system there.

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Originally Posted by Raraka

I resulted to make a solo-FC with my alts to use the FC chest as shared storage, but here is my Alt wishlist:

- Ability to have a shared bank/storage and way to transfer items (The solo FC workaround is a-ok but prevents me from joining an actual FC since I cant use the chest for myself, plus, only works with alts on the same world)
- Ability to share SOME progression (Ex: Share dungeon unlocks, but not MSQ progress, would make roulettes more comfortable on alts)
- Ability to have a shared glamour dresser, at least for store items
- Ability to have emotes as account unlocks (PSO2 does this already and its great, makes emotes more valuable in the market as well)
- Ability to Swap characters with more ease (Black desert is the perfect example of this done well)
- Ability to check alt inventories without having to swap to them (again, BDO does this already very well), this includes currencies, and how many weekly tomes they have pending
- Ability to use the iseach command to look for items in alts as well (iallsearch perhaps?)

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I love all of these! swtor and wow both have something similar for the quest prog, shared bank and account unlocks so going back and forth between those 2 and xiv really feels like alts on this game are more of an inconvenience than just another aspect of the game.

also: shared achievements.

not like it would motivate me to do more of them seeing how absurdly overscaled some are and also very boring and unoriginal overall. but i think it would be propriate since its the player who did the achievements and not the character.

So glad I'm not alone in thinking this. This is a huge hinderance for me bothering to do content, I will admit. The game has a ton of things to offer, not all of it is going to fit a single character - in fact, most of it doesn't, so I'm not motivated to bother collecting or doing content. Only here still due to RP and my stories being tied to it, really.

I truly wish story requirement wasn't a thing if you finished MSQ on your main. The fact that content is locked is ridiculous. At the very LEAST remove that block so if we do want to farm something specific for an alt, we don't need to go through story every single time. Even skipping through it takes forever and is utterly pointless.

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Originally Posted by LinaAkayomi

How did you do this??

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It was an old thing you could do back in HW. Open 2nd instance of the game and disconnect on your main, log in quickly to your alt and send yourself a friend request before you were technically offline. Then just log back in and accept it. You can't do it anymore because the system wont let you log in on your alt until your main one is out.

A shame because I find myself sending myself stuff all the time. It should be able to be used for everyone.

With WoW going to the warband system where everything is shared between alts, this game seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum.
At the very least, we should be able to friend our alts, send mail/items/gil between alts, invite alts to our fc’s, and have more account-wide mounts and glam items, especially mog station stuff.

The shared chest should be like Destiny 2's where all of your glams, weapons (In Desinty 2's case, Ghost shells and Sparrows) and such can be shared between all of your characters, that would go a long way of reusing older gear for your alts working their way up the msq. Destiny 2 also has a collection system where it cost a few tomes (Legendary Shards in D2) equivalent to get any gear and weapon you have collected in the game so far anytime you want, even out on the field.


All Mogstation purchases should be accountwide, I really hate having to buy the same glams over and over for my alts, so sometimes I'm forced to pay three times so that three of my characters can have a specific Mogstation glam. SE can't use the excuse of glams not being able to be made accountwide when I have a glam that is accountwide, the Far Eastern Journey set that was an Amazon preorder bonus for Stormblood and all of my characters get it when I create them.

The biggest bar for entry for a lot of people with alts is how much msq you have to do the sheer size of it in this game now is too much, the only way of skipping this is buying your way through which you have to both pay for the msq progression and job progression, Honestly it's ridiculous to expect someone to pay over $40 just to level and progress a alt (not even to max level to 90), while they're also paying for a Sub and paying for new expansions.

People have said "well you can level all jobs on one character" but you know what you can't do on one character? you can't gear them all at the same time because the gearing system is bad, you can't travel from eu to na for some reason. I honestly do think a Alt system is more fun for a lot of people who do enjoy making a lot of characters and it should be somewhat viable to have a alt without having to either pay frankly a ridiculous amount of money or go slowly through the msq.

Im fully against more Support for alts, you can already play every class with one Char (Which i still think is a bad decision) but when they start to support more alts the complain will shift to "why cant i only farm gear on my main and make it acc bound" etc because people are greedy

One Char is more as enough and that comes from someone which has 4 Chars and plays them active

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Im fully against more Support for alts, you can already play every class with one Char (Which i still think is a bad decision) but when they start to support more alts the complain will shift to "why cant i only farm gear on my main and make it acc bound" etc because people are greedy

One Char is more as enough and that comes from someone which has 4 Chars and plays them active

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Why are you against? Would this diminish your, personal play somehow?
And "you can already play every class with one Char" is a poor reason, when game allows me to make 8 characters on a single World.
I'm not even going to touch "One Char is more as enough", because who you are to claim that for other players?...

In SWTOR, players have Legacy bank - you can put shareable items there, so any alt on that server can access that. Not to mention you can simply mail stuff between your alts.
FFXIV unwillngless to implement this (both or either) is such a bizzare thing imo.

I always thought that not being able to send mails to my other chars was some technical limitation. Now that I read that it is technically possible, I find this even more absurd (yes, you could only befriend your alts through a glitch years ago - but obviously having alts on your friend list does not set the servers on fire, so technically it's possible).

And no, one char is definitely not enough - I currently have 14 chars, which I all play whenever the mood strikes me.

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

Why are you against? Would this diminish your, personal play somehow?
And "you can already play every class with one Char" is a poor reason, when game allows me to make 8 characters on a single World.
I'm not even going to touch "One Char is more as enough", because who you are to claim that for other players?...

In SWTOR, players have Legacy bank - you can put shareable items there, so any alt on that server can access that. Not to mention you can simply mail stuff between your alts.
FFXIV unwillngless to implement this (both or either) is such a bizzare thing imo.

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Yea it would, i already blacklisted so many player, do you know how annoying it would be when now everyone comes with his twink? Let me Blacklist a complet Account and im not against Alt Support, but with the current Blacklist it would be way to annoying for Trolls and Idiots.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Yea it would, i already blacklisted so many player, do you know how annoying it would be when now everyone comes with his twink? Let me Blacklist a complet Account and im not against Alt Support, but with the current Blacklist it would be way to annoying for Trolls and Idiots.

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What on earth are you talking about?....

the blacklist already does blacklist the entire account of the character you blacklist.
seems like you dont really care about that topic

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Originally Posted by Asari5

the blacklist already does blacklist the entire account of the character you blacklist.
seems like you dont really care about that topic

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thats actually something i really didnt know.

Yea then im fine with Support for Alts, but i still think stuff like that wont happen, i mean lets be real they still didnt fix the Gearing System for "1 Character" so i really dont see any kind of Alt Support coming in the next few Years.

And dont forget they are loosing Money if they do it, but i really wish Glamour atleast would be Accountwide.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

thats actually something i really didnt know.

Yea then im fine with Support for Alts, but i still think stuff like that wont happen, i mean lets be real they still didnt fix the Gearing System for "1 Character" so i really dont see any kind of Alt Support coming in the next few Years.

And dont forget they are loosing Money if they do it, but i really wish Glamour atleast would be Accountwide.

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I'm not expecting them to go full throttle as nice as it would be, I'm just hoping at minimum for them to add some way to be able transfer items to other characters (via mail (have all characters on an account be added to your friends list automatically so they don't have to change how mail currently works), account wide bank, something like that) since i have 23 characters atm i can't have them all in a FC together and utilize the chest (which i do for the ones that share a server with my main), they wouldn't lose money with something like that.

I'm a solo player so i can't ask someone to help me move stuff, and since my main is currently done (all classes maxed, all quests complete, all reps maxed) i like to use her to support my lowbies with whatever i feel like working on them at the time (like leveling, msq, GC dailies, glam, fashion report) because while we're in between patches I find more fun in playing around with my alts than doing the endgame grinds. and I totally want to take advantage of the fact that I have 2 characters that can supply my alts with mats, BIS gear and cute glams.

games that have been around longer (wow) and have smaller funding and support (swtor) have had tons of alt support for ages, with how popular xiv is it shouldn't be that strange of a request for for some here too, especially since there appears to be a collection-esce system for glams in the mobile version.

I'm just glad to see i'm not the only one with an alt problem! there's just something so fun about it

Alts should automatically be on your friends list and tenants of your house (without using up a slot) imo. I don't see how this loses SE anything. If anything, SE makes more money on alt characters because pretty much all of the outfits on the online store are for one character only, so you have to buy them again if you want them for an alt. Being able to mail your alts or have them share your home (something they promised us ages ago that hasn't materialized) is just QOL.

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Originally Posted by Asako

Thankfully I have my main alt on my friends list so it's not an issue for me, but this is something that should have been added years ago for everyone.

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I wish that bug was back for a little bit... I really want to get my alts on my friends list



Edit: I didn't know it was already a thing back in HW. I was only aware of when it happened for a short time during ShB, I think it was? Meoni made a video about it back in the day, but I was already late to the party.