Ignoring Loot Window

Does anyone know for a fact how the system treats ignored loot. In other words, if you don't choose a loot option and the timer on that loot runs out before you exit, does the system automatically treat the loot as need, greed or pass?

Need > Greed > No Roll > Pass

Only "Pass" allows it to hit the floor, and "No Roll" requires waiting out the full timer, simply leaving the instance is not sufficient.

This happens quite often in dungeons where many people don't care about rolling at all inbetween pulls.

So, on a "no roll" is that player, who is waiting out the timer, ignored, aka, pass, or does it default to greed/need if that player refuses to roll and isn't leaving?

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Originally Posted by RavenRaijin

Does anyone know for a fact how the system treats ignored loot. In other words, if you don't choose a loot option and the timer on that loot runs out before you exit, does the system automatically treat the loot as need, greed or pass?

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Listen, it's very simple when I tank I rush wall to wall and I don't rand, when the dungeon is finished, I do U > Leave

When the window spawns, you do escape, or better still, you set it as the default in the bottom right-hand corner of your screen.

False problem.


What, you can't wait until the end of the dungeon to loot? What are you going to do anyway, equip yourself with it right away and slow down the run? Or leave as soon as you've got your loot, you'll have it in x second anyway.

I fear I'm failing to communicate, which happens more often than I like.
I don't have a problem; I have a question about how the system treats a given situation.
As you can likely surmise, I don't have friends to test this with, so I was hoping someone has figured it out.
However, my mind tends to get fixated on things most don't seem to care about ergo the miscommunication.
Which is also likely why my bug reports get dumped in "Working as Intended". I simply get stuck on things no one else cares about. But I digress.
The point is that my question is simply a curiosity, not a problem or glitch.

Not rolling is treated as passed loot. If the timer expires and no one has rolled (including passing) then it's gone.

If you're the only one in the instance (because everyone else left or you're soloing) then all loot is automatically given to you, unless it has a weekly restriction. In other words, you won't pick up current raid loot if everyone bails before you had a chance to roll, thus locking into an item you might not of wanted that week.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Not rolling is treated as passed loot. If the timer expires and no one has rolled (including passing) then it's gone.

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I tested the information I posted in my first reply and you are incorrect and I am correct. Thank you for posting misinformation, it made me double check my understanding and verify it once again.

Please avoid posting misinformation without testing it first.


[:13]A dryad cane has been added to the loot list.
[:13]Cast your lot.
[:13]<Not Me> casts her lot for the dryad cane.
[:18]You obtain a dryad cane.
[:18]The dryad cane is added to your inventory.

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Originally Posted by RavenRaijin

So, on a "no roll" is that player, who is waiting out the timer, ignored, aka, pass, or does it default to greed/need if that player refuses to roll and isn't leaving?

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Originally Posted by Rin_Sato

Need > Greed > No Roll > Pass

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The player is "ignored" if a higher "tier" player roll exists.
Need > Greed > No Roll > Pass
If you need, anybody who greeded can not win.
If you greed, anybody who didn't roll can not win.
If you didn't roll, anybody who passed can not win. (As one might expect, since passing will always prevent you from obtaining any loot.)

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Originally Posted by Rin_Sato

I tested the information I posted in my first reply and you are incorrect and I am correct. Thank you for posting misinformation, it made me double check my understanding and verify it once again.

Please avoid posting misinformation without testing it first.


[:13]A dryad cane has been added to the loot list.
[:13]Cast your lot.
[:13]<Not Me> casts her lot for the dryad cane.
[:18]You obtain a dryad cane.
[:18]The dryad cane is added to your inventory.

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What did I post was incorrect?

I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.

Thank you for taking the time to test that, Rin. Now I understand what you were saying. That was not one of the options I thought the system would do. But now that you explained it, it makes complete sense. Stay Awesome!

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Originally Posted by Espon

What did I post was incorrect?

I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.

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They were specifically testing your assertion that a non-roll is treated as a pass, which disagreed with what they previously stated. Such a test can only be performed by letting the timer expire, which cant happen if the other people leave. So reading their chat log: Line 1, they loot a chest. Line 2, it asks them to roll. Line 3, the other player in the party helping with the test rolls(we know from context that they pass). Line 4(and 5), after 5 minutes have passed and the timer expires the loot is awarded to them.

So indeed, the system is treating it as a 4-tiered roll system. Need as tier 1(beats all but a better need roll), Greed as tier 2(youve indicated you want it, you beat anyone who passes or doesnt roll but still lose to any need or a better greed roll), blank as tier 3(you didnt say you want it, you didnt say you didnt want it - so you get it if no one else wants it - one would guess it randomly assigns if no one rolls anything but i havent tested this), and pass as tier 4(you didnt want it, you dont get it).

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Originally Posted by Espon

What did I post was incorrect?

I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.

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Wrong. Both players were in the instance. Feel free to go test it. Please test it before continuing to post misinformation.

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Originally Posted by Espon

What did I post was incorrect?

I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.

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Based on the log, NotRin clicked Pass, not Need or Greed.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Not rolling is treated as passed loot. If the timer expires and no one has rolled (including passing) then it's gone.

If you're the only one in the instance (because everyone else left or you're soloing) then all loot is automatically given to you, unless it has a weekly restriction. In other words, you won't pick up current raid loot if everyone bails before you had a chance to roll, thus locking into an item you might not of wanted that week.

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"No answer" is only treated as Pass in current normal raids and alliance raids because of the weekly restriction.