Chemist Potion prices :(

10k per potion seems okay, but 300k for the elixir o.o. Seems too much. Maybe give chemist a trait that enables them to buy it for 100k each. :)

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Originally Posted by RareItems

10k per potion seems okay, but 300k for the elixir o.o. Seems too much. Maybe give chemist a trait that enables them to buy it for 100k each. :)

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It's meant to be your Ace in the Hole ability, since you fully heal and restore mana back for the whole group with it.

Ideally, you should never need to use that unless the situation really gets out of hand since the other potions can heal or restore mana.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

It's meant to be your Ace in the Hole ability, since you fully heal and restore mana back for the whole group with it.

Ideally, you should never need to use that unless the situation really gets out of hand since the other potions can heal or restore mana.

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I don't think one person should pay this much for something that benefits everyone.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

I don't think one person should pay this much for something that benefits everyone.

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It's literally a pay to win job, so if you want to get the most out of it, you gotta pay.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

It's literally a pay to win job, so if you want to get the most out of it, you gotta pay.

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Yeah and that shouldn't exist, because that's not a job, that's just using items.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Yeah and that shouldn't exist, because that's not a job, that's just using items.

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The rez is a freebie, so ideal for tanks to pick up healers, with a 5 second(!) cooldown. It also bypasses Resurrection Restriction, which likely will be a part of the large-scale dungeon event.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

The rez is a freebie, so ideal for tanks to pick up healers, with a 5 second(!) cooldown. It also bypasses Resurrection Restriction, which likely will be a part of the large-scale dungeon event.

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Can only be used to rez someone up to 3 times, seeing people die all the time in CE, this is like throwing sand into dessert.

And now, great, tanks can even be more OP. Exactly what we needed.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Can only be used to rez someone up to 3 times, seeing people die all the time in CE, this is like throwing sand into dessert.

And now, great, tanks can even be more OP. Exactly what we needed.

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It's amazing utility in combination with the heal/ether potion - Rez a healer, top their mana off with Ether. Rez a DPS/Tank, use a Potion.
All of them are instant cast.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

It's amazing utility in combination with the heal/ether potion - Rez a healer, top their mana off with Ether. Rez a DPS/Tank, use a Potion.
All of them are instant cast.

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It's just watering down job identity again.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

And now, great, tanks can even be more OP. Exactly what we needed.

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It's a cooperative activity and being able to make crazy silly combinations sounds fun. :(

FYI, suppose they exist to counter the prices.
Got it from a bronze chest.

https://i.imgur.com/8X2CS1A.png
https://i.imgur.com/TsNkRIY.png

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Originally Posted by Arrius

The rez is a freebie, so ideal for tanks to pick up healers, with a 5 second(!) cooldown. It also bypasses Resurrection Restriction, which likely will be a part of the large-scale dungeon event.

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If Rez would attached to literally anything else I'd actually be happy, It really sucks that rez is tied to chemist which is pretty much pay to play your job.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

FYI, suppose they exist to counter the prices.
Got it from a bronze chest.

https://i.imgur.com/8X2CS1A.png
https://i.imgur.com/TsNkRIY.png

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Is that really from a bronze?
In Eureka, at most you would get 100k if you got a gold chest
So that makes me wonder how much more you can potentially get in silver/gold

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Originally Posted by CVXIV

Is that really from a bronze?
In Eureka, at most you would get 100k if you got a gold chest
So that makes me wonder how much more you can potentially get in silver/gold

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The bronze/silver/gold distinction seems like complete nonsense in occult crescent

Pay to play job that isn't yojimbo? Blasphemy!

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Can only be used to rez someone up to 3 times, seeing people die all the time in CE, this is like throwing sand into dessert.

And now, great, tanks can even be more OP. Exactly what we needed.

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Exactly. But why not? It is something fresh for the content.
30k for full HP/MP 300k for HPMP + Full Party. It doesn't seem that bad
anyway , It is just some new idea. U can hate it
but don't complain once they giving you another ctrl c + v job when u're complaining something new and unique , even it is kinda dumb.
No one force you to use it anyway.

It's definitely a designed for tower job, people should only be dying like flies until they learn the mechanics in which case the rez becomes pointless and you may as well use another phantom job however its raise can raise where you normally cant so... tower.

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Originally Posted by NaoSen

people should only be dying like flies until they learn the mechanics in which case the rez becomes pointless

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I am sorry, are we playing the same game? a sizeable chunk of the playerbase, even the ones doing OC, range from unable to unwilling to learn, they will never stop dropping like flies...

Didn't mind the game breaking additional actions in Eureka or Bozja, don't mind them here either. Field Operations make for the best enviroment to put game breaking powers for people to play around with because the only content that will demand specific build is Forked Tower, the one instance that is actually designed with that mentality in mind. Otherwise, go meta or go whatever you want, you will still get stuff done. If anything, I would say that, with a couple exception, several Phantom Jobs are pretty boriing as they bring nothing other than use and forget CDs or straightforward utility.

And lost elixir doesn't strike me as drastically OP (if anything, it's a actually underwhelming) because:
1. Healer Jobs can still heal to full HP without much trouble already and there are other phantom jobs that also provide massive amounts of healing at no additional cost.
2. Lucid Dream still makes DoM jobs keep a decent MP pool at all times and the instance where low MP dooms a run are still rare.
3. Moreover it's a one and done heal with no additional benefits like mitigatios. It's not like Rikku was in FFX, where she could buff the party to kingdom come with her chemist abilities.
4. Last but not least, the fight design still uses FFXIV trademark of having sparse unavoidable damage to worry about, which makes healing less and less important as people catch on the mechanics and the buffs start piling up to shorten the fight.

It's nice to have for personal sustain with the potions, specially in solo or parties without healers but it's not that massively overtuned that you need to pay for the elixirs to win.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

FYI, suppose they exist to counter the prices.
Got it from a bronze chest.

https://i.imgur.com/8X2CS1A.png
https://i.imgur.com/TsNkRIY.png

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Got 200k straight into my inventory from a silver also.

Edit: Mightve been a carrot actually, i dont remember but there does seem to be gil makers to spend on Chemist.