So, there’s been some discussion about CE as of late and in regards to how some servers completed their phases in a matter of hours. What was supposed to be a long, long community-driven effort has been made a huge waste because of players who want in on content on Day 1.
Look, I get it: we want that experience - but the fact is that we won’t get to see things now because people have obligations outside of the game. PTO? Sure. Call off? Not everyone can. This is a nightmare because of the fact that the developers and Yoshida himself greenlit this and made progression get crushed in a day.
Now, I’m going to pull out the Elephant in the room, and this goes for all content: Community Driven FOMO. Remember when Firmament released? That took weeks to actually build up across 2 or 3 patches, and sure: people weren’t able to see how housing was being built. Let’s take Ultimates for example as well. If I’m trying to get into say FRU, people will stick around for only so long. They’ll come back, but usually by then a majority have already got their bag - this is visible in regards to High-end Content such as Savage being released since everyone wants to do the new thing.
Yet, as time goes on, if you never have the time to get to the new thing, then you get left in the wash and miss out. Thankfully people still revisit them, either an expansion ahead or when it’s current and weekly lockout is gone. Still, it does not change that people have moved on from things and you just can’t get that experience anymore because the community doesn’t want to do it or already has done it.
Trying to find like-minded people can be difficult for certain content in this situation as well. So, the question I’d like to pose for this thread is this:
How do we prevent content from getting flushed out within the First Day when it is tied to community progression per server?
This is still in regards to Cosmic Exploration of course, but my solution would be to make it so that the community as a whole is challenged to meet a target. Per server. If I have 10,000 people active? Make the goalpost a Million XYZ. It’d stretch out the content, but you’d be working as a community long term towards it.
Cosmic Exploration: Dead on Arrival
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04-23-2025, 06:44 AMHyperiusUltimaCosmic Exploration: Dead on Arrival
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04-23-2025, 07:14 AMJeeqbit
This isn't unexpected. We had this all with Ishgard Restoration. They will do it in iterations so there will be more opportunities to participate.
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04-23-2025, 07:57 AMMawlzy
Can someone who likes this content give me the ELI5 on why I should bang rocks on the bleak lunar surface rather than somewhere attractive?
Like the main difference I'm seeing is CE involves timers. Not clear to me how this helps. It's still basically solo content. -
04-23-2025, 10:57 AMangelar_
You can make a whopping 80K on the brand new dyes that have been here for less than 24 hours, but only if you win the lucky lotto!
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04-23-2025, 11:19 AMSupersnow845Cosmic has really interesting crafting distributionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mawlzy
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04-23-2025, 11:28 AMhydralusChump change. I sold the new lotto mount for 15 mil.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelar_
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04-23-2025, 12:35 PMMawlzyOkay. Which could have been incorporated into master recipes or similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersnow845
Meanwhile the FATEs are one-button numbers vaguely reminiscent of being an F1 monkey in EVE, but without the exploding spaceships.
The crafting and gathering seem emotionally disconnected from the base progress. Like if we have a big bucket to fill with a specific ore, which crafters then use to make I-beams, that are then used to make a building it would have an engaging flow.
Somehow SE has done something that must have absorbed a lot of resources that is less interesting than regular crafting and gathering. -
04-23-2025, 01:58 PMSupersnow845Yes it can be integrated into master recipes outside of cosmic, but I don’t think it’s a knock against cosmic that it tried it firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Mawlzy
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04-23-2025, 02:28 PMCidHeiral
That seems to already be the case. Similar to the Firmament, the first phases went quick because they contain essential NPCs and whatnot. After that everything slows down dramatically. Right now on Hyperion we're on the habitation module step and the bar is moving at a snail's pace. Is there a server already beyond that step?
EDIT: Discovered there's a site tracking progress. As of this post nobody is anywhere near completing that step. Most are around 20% done or less after working at it all day. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...oration/report -
04-23-2025, 02:53 PMMawlzyThat's fair. Might have saved some time had they just done it without the whole moon-base thing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersnow845
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04-23-2025, 05:21 PMKillaKilalaGood for you. I couldn't, and the prices on my server dropped so fast to the point I decided to keep the mount. The problem with cosmic is that rewards are even worse than the ones from criterion. There are only few rewards, and at the same time thousands of players are doing this content, opposite to criterion, resulting hyperinflation of items and it's price dropping.Quote:
Originally Posted by hydralus
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04-23-2025, 06:07 PMhydralusYep, same with when Ishgard Restoration happened, or Island Sanctuary. Anything that is casual content will have its rewards drop to nothing unless it's obscenely rare, and perhaps not even then. Maybe they should've put a hairstyle in there for 30,000 credits. Now that'd be a big ticket item.Quote:
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04-23-2025, 07:10 PMCarin-Eri
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04-23-2025, 07:23 PMKaurhz
It does seem like there are more steps... We just got a bar on Sagittarius, and we're at phase 3.
Based on progression, some servers should be progressing phase 4 late tomorrow, e.g., Faerie and Cactuar, and then most other servers should hit it by Friday, I would think.