Magic Evasion? Why not Magic DEF ?

hello everyone, while i was checking the new 2.0 screenshots, i noticed that "Magic Evasion" was still one of the stats, now i know that they might change that later, but they also might NOT.

and i think people talked about this before, but forgive me, couldnt help myself to talk about it again since its really important =)

what's the difference between Magic Evasion & Magic DEF ?
well, Magic EVA means that there's a CHANCE that you might not get hit by a magical attack at all, or a CHANCE for reduced dmg. or - with the current system we have in 1.23a - it does nothing at all ^_^

while Magic DEF is a dmg reduction based on a formula, with a very little room for chance.


Why Magic DEF ?
lets say you're fighting a tough boss, one of his magical attacks hits you for 2,000 dmg, by getting some gear with Magic DEF+ you can reduce that dmg, up to the point where you know how much he will always be dealing


Why we dont want Magic EVA ?
for the simple reason its based on pure luck, or rather a RNG (Random Number Generator), and no matter what they do to it in 2.0, it will still be based on a RNG, which is our main enemy in this game....



i tried to make this thread as simple as i could, and im really looking forward for an answer from the DEVs (if possible), why Magic EVA, not Magic DEF ?

Thank You

I'm sure the element resistances are our magic defs

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Originally Posted by The_Crow

the current system we have in 1.23a - it does nothing at all ^_^

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stopped reading right there, because you're just flat out wrong.

Magic evasion/DEf same thing. Magic can be fully evaded or part evaded. It would be the same thing for magic def. You resist _____ Thunder. You part resist _____ Thunder. Same thing.

Right now magic evasion is your chance to resist a magical attack. there are 4 levels of evasion to my knowledge.

single resist (take like 75% damage)
double resist (take like 50% damage)
Triple resist (take like 25% damage)

The important thing to take away here is it is variable

magic defense, on the other hand, which is essentially our elemental resistance, takes a chunk off of the damage we take regardless of resist.

This system is fine. once the elemental wheel/star/diamond/whatever gets fixed it will become more clear on how to mitigate magic damage i think.

I thought defense accounted for magic defense as well now too?

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Originally Posted by Onisake

Right now magic evasion is your chance to resist a magical attack. there are 4 levels of evasion to my knowledge.

single resist (take like 75% damage)
double resist (take like 50% damage)
Triple resist (take like 25% damage)

The important thing to take away here is it is variable

magic defense, on the other hand, which is essentially our elemental resistance, takes a chunk off of the damage we take regardless of resist.

This system is fine. once the elemental wheel/star/diamond/whatever gets fixed it will become more clear on how to mitigate magic damage i think.

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You forgot Full evade. Magic can be fully evaded try casting something on a lvl 99 mob lol.

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Originally Posted by fusional

stopped reading right there, because you're just flat out wrong.

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i know how it works, it was just a figure of speech :)
i did NOT try buffing a lot on M.EVA, but im yet to see someone tank Chimera with a M.EVA set.

with decent gear (without M.EVA on it), i think i might resist like 1 spell out of 500 (if im lucky).

the TL;DR version of my thread is, why shoukd it be based on a RNG ? (yes, i know RNG is a HUGE thing in the game).

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Originally Posted by Onisake

Right now magic evasion is your chance to resist a magical attack. there are 4 levels of evasion to my knowledge.

single resist (take like 75% damage)
double resist (take like 50% damage)
Triple resist (take like 25% damage)

The important thing to take away here is it is variable

magic defense, on the other hand, which is essentially our elemental resistance, takes a chunk off of the damage we take regardless of resist.

This system is fine. once the elemental wheel/star/diamond/whatever gets fixed it will become more clear on how to mitigate magic damage i think.

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true, but how often do you resist a spell from a tough boss ?
and yeah, it would be nice if they do that :3

M Eva doesn't work well on bosses the same reason Def doesn't work well on bosses: The level difference is too great that it doesn't make much of a difference at all.

the reason they changed it from magic def to magic evasion is because they don't want to bother making new formula for it, just leave it to RNG, i guess that's why they add /pray to use it before you cast :P