Keep telling yourself you'll quit if this game doesnt get better

But you won't

LOL

This is 100% true, but you're gonna get blasted or ignored. Here at the official echo chamber, people complain and SAY people will unsub, but won't be doing the unsubbing themselves. Welcome aboard!

thank you for telling me what i will or wont do

post something funnier

Character 'Putrid Vomit' with their finger on the pulse of society

https://i.imgur.com/7f5CF7y.jpeg

statistics : 400 000+ players leaving

the community : LMAO YALL AINT LEAVING THE GAME YOURE JUST COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME YOULL NEVER UNSUB

Edit : adding sources

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ayer_drop_off/

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58883226.html

-- https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

statistics : 400 000+ players leaving

the community : LMAO YALL AINT LEAVING THE GAME YOURE JUST COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME YOULL NEVER UNSUB

Edit : adding sources

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ayer_drop_off/

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58883226.html

-- https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

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Was the thread not specifically targeting the people posting on forums?

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

statistics : 400 000+ players leaving

the community : LMAO YALL AINT LEAVING THE GAME YOURE JUST COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME YOULL NEVER UNSUB

Edit : adding sources

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ayer_drop_off/

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58883226.html

-- https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

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And we still have 800-900k people who keep saying the game is horrible but keeps playing.

What message are you sending to SE?

Just unsub now. Stop finding excuses or copiums. "Oh I'm waiting for 7.25 to see if the exploratory zone is good"
"Oh 8.0 is my last straw"

Bro the people saying this said this last expansion lmfao

If you dislike the game now UNSUB NOW

This game won't get better. It never will. It has already passed its peak. Face reality.

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

And we still have 800-900k people who keep saying the game is horrible but keeps playing.

What message are you sending to SE?

Just unsub now. Stop finding excuses or copiums. "Oh I'm waiting for 7.25 to see if the exploratory zone is good"
"Oh 8.0 is my last straw"

Bro the people saying this said this last expansion lmfao

If you dislike the game now UNSUB NOW

This game won't get better. It never will. It has already passed its peak. Face reality.

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Oh I absolutely agree with you, people are 100% coping, and the excuses of "I'm waiting for 7.2,7.3,7.4.,7.5, i'm waiting for next expansion for the job rework" are literally in absolute copium to actually hilarious levels, they just push back the date they'll leave the game because they dont have the mental strength to do it or just refuse to accept reality

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

If you dislike the game now UNSUB NOW

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No, no. You're doing it wrong. You need to use reverse psychology.

I mean, I unsubbed. Just waiting for it to run out. Can't imagine I'm the only one. Maybe I'll be back come 7.4 when the stuff I want comes out, but I imagine more people in and out of the forum alike are unsubbing than you realize.

Some people even pay for multiple accounts despite not being happy with the state of the game.

I probably wont quit, but I do breaks on a regular basis

1 year between 6.4 and 7.0
4 months between early oct 2024-early jan 2025

Personally, so long as people can continue to do all kinds of unholy things with mods, I'll stick around.

I'm going down with the ship. It's the honourable thing to do. Yes, that's it.

Not sure about that. 90% of my friends quit and haven't seen them come back yet and been over a year since they quit. I used to have 4 family accounts and now down to one.

And the funny thing is, the people which complains the most are the reason the game cant evolve and hold back, i said it a few times now but even the game would be 100% perfect the best game ever, people would still find a reason to complain here in the forum xD

I can't speak for anyone else--I'm at the critical, but not the "I'M GONNA UNSUB" stage, personally--but that's primarily because of the community I have on this game, and as an RP enjoyer, at least DT brought some decent lore and worldbuilding to the party.

Dropped my sub ages ago. i dabble with the free logins occassionally. catch up on last expac msq.and keep hoping things will imporve.

my poor character sits in there appartment just wanting a reason to leave and go on an adventure.

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

And we still have 800-900k people who keep saying the game is horrible but keeps playing.

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Remember a good amount of them will be free trial players. though in fairness id suspect alot of those that left are also.

The game boasts over 30 million players i think was the last number i read... so an active player base of 900k is 3% player retention.

29.1 million players have quit.

I like the game.

Are we still hating on wuk or what is it this time?

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Originally Posted by QiyoJoyo

I like the game.

Are we still hating on wuk or what is it this time?

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I dunno. I'm busy with Stuff aside from Powercreep that i don't have the time to spread hate how boring the game is.

The real endgame is all the stuff you do besides the msq...and i'm still not done with that!

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I mean, I unsubbed. Just waiting for it to run out. Can't imagine I'm the only one. Maybe I'll be back come 7.4 when the stuff I want comes out, but I imagine more people in and out of the forum alike are unsubbing than you realize.

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Same, except my sub has ran out early in the month. I could've sworn I should have lost forum access by now.

Mao quit game a while back. Mao only posts on forums now while Mao still has access, to try convince those whats still play to push SE for something betters than boring DDR-style boss fights and no world adventures. If SE listens to thems then maybe Mao will consider coming backs. Not looking too hopeful though.

I don't think I would completely quit, but I think the amount of investment that I put into the game, and how frequently I play will just go down in general.

Mostly, because I do have quite a few social friends in the game that are still regularly playing, and it's one of the few games I have in common with them. Outside of this, most of my time gaming is predominantly single player games.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

And the funny thing is, the people which complains the most are the reason the game cant evolve and hold back, i said it a few times now but even the game would be 100% perfect the best game ever, people would still find a reason to complain here in the forum xD

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That sure is a take, not a good one or realistic one.
The reason the game cant evolve are the lazy devs that are addicted to their formular.
And the people saying things are fine.
If anything we need more vocal (JP) players complaining so the devs finally realise going forward into the iceberg will sink their cashcow.

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

That sure is a take, not a good one or realistic one.
The reason the game cant evolve are the lazy devs that are addicted to their formular.
And the people saying things are fine.
If anything we need more vocal (JP) players complaining so the devs finally realise going forward into the iceberg will sink their cashcow.

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And yet again one of the "Devs listen only to jp players" things and no thats not even true, the recent class changes proves it more then once that square even listens to the jp player

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Originally Posted by Dzian

The game boasts over 30 million players i think was the last number i read... so an active player base of 900k is 3% player retention.

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For context, that 30 million is a pool. While hundreds of thousands of them will "quit", hundreds of thousands them will "return" to make up for some of the ones that "quit". This is pretty obvious from: Lucky Bancho, seeing the Returner icon in the game all the time, and talking to returning players in FCs and the Novice Network.

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

The reason the game cant evolve are the lazy devs that are addicted to their formular.

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Can you explain how using a formula is "lazy"? It may just be that it's a good idea to keep things consistent for players and their content planning/work schedule.

They do add new things and try new things - like the Chaotic raid for example, or Variant/Criterion and Island Sanctuary in the last expansion. You cannot possibly deny that because it is the objective truth - that content type was not being made prior.

not gonna lie all my RP is in 14 and is right now super solide so here I am paying to roleplay x) and do content when I can or just helping my RP friend do msq

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

I'm going down with the ship. It's the honourable thing to do. Yes, that's it.

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*Dido - White Flag chorus playing in the background*

...Or Fall of Envy if that's more your music genre.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

The game boasts over 30 million players i think was the last number i read... so an active player base of 900k is 3% player retention.

29.1 million players have quit.

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Man do I love when people repeat this horse manure of a number, it is entirely useless for any kind of actually relevant discussion.
This is 30 million registered accounts, not 30 million active players. Out of those 30 million, that have at some point in time played this game, you have maybe 1.5mil active at any given time.

Now losing 400k out of your 1.5mil still isn't exactly great.
But 30 million is a stupid number to throw around, at the height of it's popularity WoW had 12 million active players and it was a cultural phenomenon back in 2009.

cancelled my sub this morning. it will stay that way until they fix their incompetent bl mistake by either making the account ID server side or encrypting them.

guess I'm not coming back cause the likelihood they actually do either option? next to 0.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They do add new things and try new things - like the Chaotic raid for example, or Variant/Criterion and Island Sanctuary in the last expansion. You cannot possibly deny that because it is the objective truth - that content type was not being made prior.

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Don't know about chaotic since I already quit in EW but most of the "new" things that SE tries are half baked and shallow.

You're really going to tell me Island Sanctuary was even 10% as good as Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

most of the "new" things that SE tries are half baked and shallow.

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True, but I don't think that's due to their formula but just due to them making it shallow. They can have their content schedule and fit new stuff into it without making it shallow, they just don't.

That goes for making the content within their formula better as well, such as FATEs doing more than autos and a conal.

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You're really going to tell me Island Sanctuary was even 10% as good as Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley

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It wasn't and it wasn't even fun. Just a mindless click grind. I used to play a kids game in the 90s like that which was actually fun, and some sim games that would actually play out people living their lives in what you've built so you could play god.

The only slightly fun bit of it was catching the rare animals but since the creature wasn't doing any sort of interesting actions or mechanics or presenting any danger, it didn't end up as much either.

The irony is posting this during a free login campaign, when people who have stopped paying their sub are allowed to come back and post again.

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

But you won't

LOL

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Jokes on u, i already quit

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

The irony is posting this during a free login campaign, when people who have stopped paying their sub are allowed to come back and post again.

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You know even if there's a free login campaign, you quite literally dont need or have to log in right ?

Every person that has left the game and comes back for the free campaign days is doing exactly what SE wants which is to make the population numbers appear higher than they are.

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

You know even if there's a free login campaign, you quite literally dont need or have to log in right ?

Every person that has left the game and comes back for the free campaign days is doing exactly what SE wants which is to make the population numbers appear higher than they are.

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I'm sure SE really wants people to come back every 3 months, say "yeah it still sucks" and then not resubscribe. All part of their master plan to not make money.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

I'm sure SE really wants people to come back every 3 months, say "yeah it still sucks" and then not resubscribe. All part of their master plan to not make money.

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You missed the point.

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

You missed the point.

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At the end of the day, SE cares about revenue, and so do the investors.