Where are the Hrothgar and Viera hats???

First post on here ever and I decided it's about time for me to complain because this starting to get ridiculous. Seriously, what is the hold up on the hats? I know I'm not a game designer or anything so the problem might be more complex than I'm capable of understanding, but we haven't had a word about how development is looking on that end and it's been nearly 6 years since Hrothgar and Viera have released. Without the ability to wear hats that cover your head. I just don't get it. I even held out hope that the graphics update might bring in just a few hats, but nope. In fact, it was even more aggravating because their solution to allowing us to wear headgear that came with a hat was just to... remove the hat. Like seriously. I'm still going to play Hrothgar (at least for now) because I've grown attached to my big cat boio, but it really does feel like I'm using an unfinished product sometimes.

There's no deep technical reasons. All they need to do is adjust hat models and tick a setting, but that costs money as they need to pay people to put time into doing that. Cheaper to just say it's too hard.

I think they could probably do a lot of them with just a texture change so it has an invisible circle where the ears are. However, I noticed there are many cases where a complete redesign of the hat would make more sense, especially due to the variety of ear types. My guess is their pride gets in the way and they want the hats to be properly redesigned to make sense for those races but obviously redesigning them for just those races is a lot of extra development work.

They should just settle for a simple texture change to allow ear holes. They do a similar thing on Elezens where they make helmets have pointy ear triangles, even though it looks really bad and a redesign would make more sense for Elezen. It's better than nothing.

From the evidence presented thus far, I'd say all the hats for Viera and Hrothgar are being given away as Custom Delivery rewards.
Away to other races, that is.





Jokes aside, I do not believe they will ever give updates to wear a majority of the hats for those two races. They will simply design some headwear that can be used, and the majority will remain unusable. It's a shame, but that's how they've operated for a while and they are keen on sticking to the same formula.

They're tied up BDSM style in FFXIV's back end spaghetti code. Damn you sexy net code spaghetti monster!!!!

I am not 100% sure but I think Yoshi mentioned in one of the latest Live Letters that Hrothgar and Viera was never designed to wear Hats.

They need 5 more years

Same place as the other egi skins sum was suppose to get. In the sea of please wait for it.

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

I am not 100% sure but I think Yoshi mentioned in one of the latest Live Letters that Hrothgar and Viera was never designed to wear Hats.

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And that's the thing, they'd have unique hairstyles to make up for it, but that also didn't happen.
Both races should be able to have insane hairstyles because they wouldn't have to worry about hat clipping, but here we are.

Same place as world peace.

Any other reason than "We can't be arsed, its not our priority, deal with it"

Is an excuse at this point. Look forward to triple dye that dye all the wrong spots in 8.0 and a Lalafel cheek pixel review 2.0

The game still not letting 2 races wear the AF gear 3 expansions after they were added is absolute insanity. I should be able to use the RDM, BLM, and every AF gear in the expansion released this year.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

The game still not letting 2 races wear the AF gear 3 expansions after they were added is absolute insanity. I should be able to use the RDM, BLM, and every AF gear in the expansion released this year.

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I know, right? I wanna wear the big black mage hats so I can be a silly little cat wizard :(

Naaah, hats are just coming soon, they have been in dev for 6 years now.

Oh, there's Viera and Hroth hats available already...

https://y.yarn.co/6c53421b-aafa-4ab1...adc6c_text.gif

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Oh, there's Viera and Hroth hats available already...

https://y.yarn.co/6c53421b-aafa-4ab1...adc6c_text.gif

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If you're a console player, mods aren't really an option.

bumping to put this up higher

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Originally Posted by Cainid

First post on here ever and I decided it's about time for me to complain because this starting to get ridiculous. Seriously, what is the hold up on the hats? I know I'm not a game designer or anything so the problem might be more complex than I'm capable of understanding, but we haven't had a word about how development is looking on that end and it's been nearly 6 years since Hrothgar and Viera have released. Without the ability to wear hats that cover your head. I just don't get it. I even held out hope that the graphics update might bring in just a few hats, but nope. In fact, it was even more aggravating because their solution to allowing us to wear headgear that came with a hat was just to... remove the hat. Like seriously. I'm still going to play Hrothgar (at least for now) because I've grown attached to my big cat boio, but it really does feel like I'm using an unfinished product sometimes.

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Whenever you have a question, the answer is nearly always money, and in this case SE wont do one or more of:

1) Employ more people past the skeleton crew to handle things like this
2) Invest more money into the game when they can get away with not doing so

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Originally Posted by Cainid

If you're a console player, mods aren't really an option.

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My understanding is that it's possible, just convoluted.

Simply ████████, screw the dev team
If someone can make them work in their free time, for free, within a month of the expansion launching, the dev team has no excuses
The hats are there, the work is done.
They just need to implement it into the base game
Until then, I suggest everyone to ████████

I fully comply with SE's TOS btw, don't go around breaking rules!

There's also this thread I made months ago, discussing the same thing.
And there's countless Viera ones and male hroth ones before these two, too.
This has been an issue for 5+ years
And sadly, I don't think it'll be fixed anytime soon

In another castle

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In another castle

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Speaking of, if we ever get a Super Mario crossover. There will be a sea of Mario, Luigi and Toad Lalafell flooding the servers. Myself included. :3

Bumping all hroth and viera hats threads until the forums get fed up and we get a proper response from the dev team

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Originally Posted by TakoyakiLala

Speaking of, if we ever get a Super Mario crossover. There will be a sea of Mario, Luigi and Toad Lalafell flooding the servers. Myself included. :3

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Yeah, but no Mario or Luigi cosplay without a cap, so Viera and Hroth will be excluded again.
Please, look forward to it.

Inb4 they panic and give us some weirdo in lore reason like "They enjoy the freedom of open air on their head!"

This is embarrassing, but I reckon its lack of resources and competence.

A streamer asked Yoshi-P why can't they improve the friendlist or make it smooth like in WoW, the answer was and I quote: "We don't have the same big resources as blizzard."

ACTUAL 2-yen indie company, can't even make a friendlist

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Originally Posted by Gwen_Lavellan

Yeah, but no Mario or Luigi cosplay without a cap, so Viera and Hroth will be excluded again.
Please, look forward to it.

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It's okay! The Viera and Hrothgar with get special full head covering "hats" in the form of Mario and Luigi mascot heads to make up for not being able to wear the actual hats.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

"We don't have the same big resources as blizzard."

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Creative Spending 3.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

"We don't have the same big resources as blizzard."

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There's probably a bit of truth to this. Blizzard only has a few active games that they work on, so all that money those games make can go back into them.

SE on the other hand produces many games, and unfortunately many of these games flop and fail to break even and many of their mobile games end up producing little revenue (usually due to atrocious monetization that drives most players away immediately) and shut down in less than a year. That means the funding needs to come from somewhere else, and that's typically from one of their few profitable games: FF14.

t's been over 5 years. If they were going to change it, they would've by now. Move on, accept it, and if it you can't, fantasia, mod, or quit. It's just sad at this point, like watching someone yell at a boulder to move out of the way every day for 5 years.

Edit: And no, I'm not defending it. It's stupid and they should've changed it by now. But they haven't, and yelling at them for 5 years hasn't changed their mind. You can yell another 5 it it still won't change anything. Seek alternatives.

Hey now, it eventually worked for BLU. and also male Viera and female Hrothgar - though I guess the outcry was extremely larger for the missing races. :)

Bumping another Hrothgar head thread in hopes of--
Ah, who am I kidding. We're never getting them.
But at least I can complain on cooldown on the forums.

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Originally Posted by TakoyakiLala

It's okay! The Viera and Hrothgar with get special full head covering "hats" in the form of Mario and Luigi mascot heads to make up for not being able to wear the actual hats.

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This is unfortunately true :(

If we at least got Job Gear, I wouldn't be that mad
If we at least got the paid hats, I wouldn't be that mad
If we at least got the 80$ artbook exclusive Matoya's Hat, I wouldn't be that mad

Honestly, all my grief comes from not being able to use my Matoya's Hat.
Just give me that one hat and I'll stop whining about this.