Proof that Yoshi-P reads the forums:

He deleted the NA servers :p Simulating the state of the game in 5 years, I appreciate the dedication to the player experience

The NA server hamster is rioting.

Good. It's about time.

the devs read the forums all the time, just not the english forums not that i blame them

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

the devs read the forums all the time, just not the english forums not that i blame them

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FFXIV forums posters not taking everything as completely literal challenge: IMPOSSIBLE.

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

the devs read the forums all the time, just not the english forums not that i blame them

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I don't blame them either.

I mean, what exactly would they take away from reading these forums?

Here's what they'd take away from reading the threads here:
"Hey SE, all you need to do is":
- Make the game easier
- Make the game harder
- Make raids more 'Midcore' (like they know what that means)
- Make the new Chaotic raid harder
- Make the new Chaotic raid easier
- Give better rewards for everything
- Make the game more accessible to casuals

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I don't blame them either.

I mean, what exactly would they take away from reading these forums?

Here's what they'd take away from reading the threads here:
"Hey SE, all you need to do is":
- Make the game easier
- Make the game harder
- Make raids more 'Midcore' (like they know what that means)
- Make the new Chaotic raid harder
- Make the new Chaotic raid easier
- Give better rewards for everything
- Make the game more accessible to casuals

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That's what happened when you ignore people feedback,
People liked Bozja why remove it in EW?
People would love to have a job identity why removing anything could be unique about the job?
Why DT didn't meet player expectations?

there is a disconnection between Yoshi P team and players, or why would this forum pop-up after DT?

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

That's what happened when you ignore people feedback,
People liked Bozja why remove it in EW?
People would love to have a job identity why removing anything could be unique about the job?
Why DT didn't meet player expectations?

there is a disconnection between Yoshi P team and players, or why would this forum pop-up after DT?

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SOME people liked Bozja. Touting it like it was this great overwhelmingly loved content isn't going to help you get it back. Though it was far better received than Eureka (Which let's be honest, that wasn't a hard bar to surpass), it was still met with mixed reviews and just as many people disliked it as there were people who liked it. That would be why they didn't continue it. They saw the mixed feedback and decided their time and effort would be better spent on something else in the hopes that it would be better received than Bozja since Bozja was the FOURTH iteration on exploration content. It wasn't until they admitted they weren't going to keep it going that suddenly the forums and reddit exploded with complaints and people saying they loved the content without many detractors.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I don't blame them either.

I mean, what exactly would they take away from reading these forums?

Here's what they'd take away from reading the threads here:
"Hey SE, all you need to do is":
- Make the game easier
- Make the game harder
- Make raids more 'Midcore' (like they know what that means)
- Make the new Chaotic raid harder
- Make the new Chaotic raid easier
- Give better rewards for everything
- Make the game more accessible to casuals

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Sincerely hope you don't work in any field focused on data analysis.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I don't blame them either.

I mean, what exactly would they take away from reading these forums?

Here's what they'd take away from reading the threads here:
"Hey SE, all you need to do is":
- Make the game easier
- Make the game harder
- Make raids more 'Midcore' (like they know what that means)
- Make the new Chaotic raid harder
- Make the new Chaotic raid easier
- Give better rewards for everything
- Make the game more accessible to casuals

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Some game developers engage in actual conversations with their players. When they see a complaint, they explain why they made the change, what their intentions were. Even if they don't plan on reverting the changes, that sort of thing can help players feel like their concerns are being heard.

Some game developers poll their players' opinions to see what works, what doesn't, what they want to see more of, what they want to see less of.

Some game developers, when they close bug reports as "working as intended", leave a comment explaining why that feature is "working as intended". When a bug report doesn't have enough information, they leave a comment explaining what information needs to be added; they don't just close it and move it to "not enough information".

Literally any of these things would be better than what XIV's developers do, or rather, don't do.

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

People liked Bozja why remove it in EW?

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There are an equal amount of players that hated it. Well I love it cos I can cap tomestones in it and do nothing else lol.

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

That's what happened when you ignore people feedback,
People liked Bozja why remove it in EW?
People would love to have a job identity why removing anything could be unique about the job?
Why DT didn't meet player expectations?

there is a disconnection between Yoshi P team and players, or why would this forum pop-up after DT?

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Because of the graphical rework and the technical changes they did to accommodate that. Same reason we didn't really get an MSQ in EW patches and instead got a padded out trial raid series.

It's the only answer that makes any sense.

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Originally Posted by Arzalis

Because of the graphical rework and the technical changes they did to accommodate that. Same reason we didn't really get an MSQ in EW patches and instead got a padded out trial raid series.

It's the only answer that makes any sense.

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The graphics update was needed. They were also developing FFXVI during EW.

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Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute

Some game developers engage in actual conversations with their players. When they see a complaint, they explain why they made the change, what their intentions were. Even if they don't plan on reverting the changes, that sort of thing can help players feel like their concerns are being heard.

Some game developers poll their players' opinions to see what works, what doesn't, what they want to see more of, what they want to see less of.

Some game developers, when they close bug reports as "working as intended", leave a comment explaining why that feature is "working as intended". When a bug report doesn't have enough information, they leave a comment explaining what information needs to be added; they don't just close it and move it to "not enough information".

Literally any of these things would be better than what XIV's developers do, or rather, don't do.

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While the FFXIV devs have definitely made some terrible decisions and deserve to be questioned (Looking at you Viera/Hrothgar headgear and Femgar rigging), it would be unfair to say they haven't done these things. At least the first and third thing. I have seen them do that with Bug Reports, and they had done the first one a few times but stopped because them explaining the change only seemed to make people even angrier and ngl... if explaining myself is only going to make people yell at me more... I'd rather just stay silent and take the lesser amount of abuse.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

While the FFXIV devs have definitely made some terrible decisions and deserve to be questioned (Looking at you Viera/Hrothgar headgear and Femgar rigging), it would be unfair to say they haven't done these things. At least the first and third thing. I have seen them do that with Bug Reports, and they had done the first one a few times but stopped because them explaining the change only seemed to make people even angrier and ngl... if explaining myself is only going to make people yell at me more... I'd rather just stay silent and take the lesser amount of abuse.

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Please scroll through the Working As Intended and Insufficient Information forums and actually look at the threads there. They absolutely do not reply to anything there.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The graphics update was needed. They were also developing FFXVI during EW.

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Debatable, but also irrelevant. I was stating why we didn't get as much content, not really critiquing it. They pulled developer resources off of the patch series to work on the Dawntrail expansion.

Y'all get defensive super quick sometimes.