Getting HQ crafting

Is it normal for a lvl 50 GSM (crafting Rose gold Ingots) to never get higher than 1% HQ using normal materials and the following skills:
Piece by Piece
Byregot's Blessing
Innovation
Manipulation
Comfort zone.

The equipment I have is not too bad, I can list it if needed. Looking for some feedback.

Ditch manipulation for master mend or any Dura+ ability

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do you use all NQ mats? copper ore, gold ore?
HQ copper ore is cheap you know

anyway, IIRC I could get around 400-500 q when using all NQ

Yes, I can't speak to that specific combination of abilities, but with NQ materials, it is entirely possible - even with unoptimized gear - to get in the 10-14% range (I'd say probably 20% with the best of the best abilities, 24% with best of the best gear and abilities). You may want to play around with your ability set. I won't suggest specific sets, because everyone has their own thing, and they work equally well for the most part. You just need to find what works best for you. Set a goal mark of trying to get at least 10% on over half of your synths with your current gear.

Quality 700+ from what I can tell and it's pretty much a no go without +1 to +3 mats.

I've made +3 gear and skill wasn't a factor. Just my experience.

Still dont have master's mend just yet, But I just bought rose gold ingot NQ

with nq mats you will struggle to get it to hq unless it's a synth wayyyyy below your rank. 10-20% is about the best you can hope for with nq mats on that synth.

Im barely getting 1%
I would be very happy with the 20...
Teach me master:rolleyes:

Told you to ditch manipulation
Its a gamble skills

Still dont have Master's mend...

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

Quality 700+ from what I can tell and it's pretty much a no go without +1 to +3 mats.

I've made +3 gear and skill wasn't a factor. Just my experience.

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Just to catch you up. legacy +2 and 3 materials carry the same weight as +1 mats. The ability to create +2 and 3 finished items was removed ages ago.

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Originally Posted by Renen

Still dont have Master's mend...

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my bad. I was thinking about Improvise (which is a gamble skill)
So yea, Manipulation is good

You need to upgrade your gear then

Post your set up

catch me on server renen and i'll see how much i can help. there's quite a few things you can do from upgrading gear to which sets of skills you use even to when you use your abilities to help achieve getting the quality you want.

Haha, never mind, I quoted back your own thread to you as reference, silly me.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

Quality 700+ from what I can tell and it's pretty much a no go without +1 to +3 mats.

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Beside the fact that +2 and +3 have the same effect as +1, they doesnt exist anymore. As in you cant farm or craft them. For sure there are leftovers flying around, but at one point they will also dissapear.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

I've made +3 gear and skill wasn't a factor. Just my experience.

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Been a while since you touched crafting or the game, no?

@ OP

Rose Gold Ingots are a 54 Recipe, so you want to pimp your Gear as much as possible to get a quality-boost while crafting. With the correct gear you can get easy up to 15-20%. Beside that, the Peacock Ore is counted as NQ, so you need to have the Rose Gold Nuggets HQ to get to a decent % in the end.

Piece by Piece
Manipulation
Master's Mend
Byregot's Blessing
By the Book

is what i use for GSM. I have different "Sets of Traits" for each Class, since some seem to work better than others.

I have a question, related to HQ crafting. Which stat should i focus? Control or Craftmanship/Magic craf.?

15-20% off HQ nuggets on that synth seems low.

Should be M.Craft so if you can get your MCraft to about 200 you can do

1x Brand of XXX (Fire?)
Master Mend
Greater Calling
Byregot's Blessing
Perfection/Culmination

Start at 333 Careful until 520ish Byregots, Perfection, 2x Careful. Brand whenever it goes unstable, if it goes unstable early you are at risk near the end.

Whenever you are 10 or less durability, Greater Call Rapid x3. This combination (with High Mcraft for that synth) should get you to 40-80% HQ rate depending on how lucky you are.

It won't work well starting with full NQ mats, get you to maybe 3-6% depending on how lucky you are.

NQ to HQ is

Byregots
Greater Calling
Purification
Inner Quiet
Heart and Soul

Careful until 55-60 durability, Byregots, Purify/HeartSoul/InnerQueit the 3 Carefuls, Careful until 10 or less dur, greater calling rapids.

If large Mcraft or Craftmanship for the synth this gets you between 300-800 quality. Its really random due to getting full perfects on the byregots crafts but it gives you a decent chance of HQing NQ things, without spending tons of time.

OK guys, i have a question crafting Flawless Astrolabe Clinometer (for Astrolabe), using Rose Gold Nugget +1x2 and Radiant Astral Eye NQ. I got 25%-35% chance of HQ and i feel it's pretty low.

Abilities:
Byregot's Blessing
Greater Calling
Sublimation
Manipulation
By the Book

Stats:
Craftmanship 144
Magic Craftsmanship 89
Control 151

I start using Byregot's blessing and then 3 careful, then by the book, manipulation and sublimination, then spam careful till i see 20 durability or a bit less, then greater calling careful x1 and rapid x2 to finish it.

So, what i'm doing wrong? Any idea?

for something that has to be HQ (like the flawless weapon parts) i go all out on quality boosting. And wear as much control as possible

Byregot's Blessing
Heart and Soul
Magnum Opus
Purification
Greater Calling

I careful till rainbow then BB+MO > BB+Purification > BB+HS. if u get lucky u can get about 500 quality on those 3 synths alone. (if i dont get rainbow by the time i have 30ish dura left i just pop BB and HS or Pura and then hope one of the next two colors are rainbow. This can get up to about 400-500 qual in those 3 synths. when i hit 9 durabilitiy or lower i pop GC and if most of my carefuls werent 3% (careful gives 3-5% progress every time) you wlll be at 45-50% progress. when u pop GC u have 3 rapids to make up the final progress to finish the synth. each rapid gives 15-20% guaranteed with GC on. so if u have 45% to go ur golden. if u have anything in the upper 50s you might need to gamble on a 4th rapid to finish. most the time on high level synths i make it to like 45-50% so i have to get a few extra progress on my 3 GCs to finish.

This method relys on the 3 super boosted quality synths to make it worth while but since NQ results for class weapon parts are useless i think it works best

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Originally Posted by vax

OK guys, i have a question crafting Flawless Astrolabe Clinometer (for Astrolabe), using Rose Gold Nugget +1x2 and Radiant Astral Eye NQ. I got 25%-35% chance of HQ and i feel it's pretty low.

Abilities:
Byregot's Blessing
Greater Calling
Sublimation
Manipulation
By the Book

Stats:
Craftmanship 144
Magic Craftsmanship 89
Control 151

I start using Byregot's blessing and then 3 careful, then by the book, manipulation and sublimination, then spam careful till i see 20 durability or a bit less, then greater calling careful x1 and rapid x2 to finish it.

So, what i'm doing wrong? Any idea?

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May not enough DEX? You should push DEX and Mag.Craft. I have my Control kind of low compared to Craft and Mag.Craft. Do you use also Master Support and Food?

I unlocked mostly all useful skills now, and it seems my main problem is not having enough
Magic Craft.
Anyone know what I can get for high magic craft? (I assume Rose Gold Ingot is Magic)
I am in immortal flames, and im not 100% sure if the companies have different equipment available...

Im using the following skills and can never get above like 400ish (thats when im lucky, often the carefuls just blow up ang give me crappy 50-70 quality, most i got was 150ish quality[from Byregot's and one of the last 3 skills])
Greater Calling
Byregot's Blessing
Magnum Opus
Purification
Heart and Soul

Stats:
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...n/statsGSM.png

got 4/13 HQ eye of lightning with NQ lightning rock,lv 30 synth.

took me half hour, I think it doesn't worth because i could get more valuable items through mining.

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Originally Posted by Renen

I unlocked mostly all useful skills now, and it seems my main problem is not having enough
Magic Craft.
Anyone know what I can get for high magic craft? (I assume Rose Gold Ingot is Magic)
I am in immortal flames, and im not 100% sure if the companies have different equipment available...

Im using the following skills and can never get above like 400ish (thats when im lucky, often the carefuls just blow up ang give me crappy 50-70 quality, most i got was 150ish quality[from Byregot's and one of the last 3 skills])
Greater Calling
Byregot's Blessing
Magnum Opus
Purification
Heart and Soul

Stats:
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...n/statsGSM.png

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youre stacking control. stack craftsmanship or magic craft depending on synth and stack DEX with main hand. each 10 dex ups quality gain by 1% and craft/magic craft increases change for success and great success. with control your safe but not as potent

ALso wanted to point out that if youre doing 50+ synths youre not gonna get more than like 170 quality gains on successes anyway. with those kind of synths i use a few HQ mats and usually get a total of about 300-400 quality above what the starting quality was. on lower than lvl40 synths its easy to stack upwards of 6-700 quality from NQ

With all NQ, I usually get about 3~5% on average and ~10% when lucky. (+400 to +500 quality)
I use: (This ability set works better on average.)
Byregot's
Culmination
Perfection
Greater Calling
one +125% ability

My equipment allows me to hit 300 DEX (all double-melded) and about a combined 290+ worth of craftsmanship with ~100 or so control.

Do not use Magnum Opus for recipes above 50. You'll fail most of the time.

And you should aim for 120/120 physical and magic craftsmanship to reduce action failures. Stack on your favorite one after that.

Tehy are going to be revising the crafting system greatly come ARR, and reducing the need to level up many craft classes to be able to achieve reasonable HQ rates on any one craft.

I do kinda hope it still gives some benefit, even if a small one if you have more DoH at high lvl