Has there been any discussions or rumors about bringing back The Feast rewards?

Not all the rewards, of course, just the glamour items

Things like the Hellhound set and the Shadowstalker set

Items that were exclusive to the top 100 ranking players in the feast, which many players cheated to obtain, and have been completely unavailable for years

Gotta love the immediate mention of cheating.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Valence

Gotta love the immediate mention of cheating.

---

PvP players cheat - give everyone Feast items
PvE players cheat - giver everyone ultimate weapons
fair?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

PvP players cheat - give everyone Feast items
PvE players cheat - giver everyone ultimate weapons
fair?

---

I'd love to buy a few of those ultimate weapons with tomestones, lol.

Okay this is something that never should have been attempted

Bunch of them did clog the leaderboards with their alts and P2W though (cheats or not). Don't give the items away but at least let us earn them. Remember Team Feast rewards (before we had the ability to actually make teams?) What are there like, 5 players with that mount?

I'd love to know how many people who got the original rewards are still playing today. Just out of curiosity.

I love when the people who weren't there claim rampant cheating because they hear it parroted from more people who weren't there. Hard cope.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stormfur

I'd love to know how many people who got the original rewards are still playing today. Just out of curiosity.

---

o/

Anyway, Yoshi-P has expressed that he wants those rewards to remain exclusive. That isn't to say he won't change his mind, but I would not hold your breath after this many years.

Yeah... except YoshiP has gone back on his word so many times that it's almost comical now.

"No plans for cross-data-center travel".

"You won't have to stay subbed to maintain your house."

"Collector's edition exclusives will remain exclusive"

In this case I hope he DOES change his mind. Those armors and mounts are too awesome to be gathering digital dust. Let us do something equally challenging to Old Feast to earn them!

There's more cheating in CC than there ever was in Feast. There's more players and the tools to cheat are a lot more robust.

So by that logic the CC rewards, as bad as they are, should just be freebies at least.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Probably because it was synonymous with The Feast to the point where one wonders, regrettably, how many people actually earned them legit at all. Hell, we STILL get "hardcore" players getting caught cheating doing PVE content to this day (while whining about how "soooo easy" it is), so you can bet it was (and still is) rampant during PVP, and that modding in general is so entwined with Final Fantasy 14 that it's easier to assume everyone is doing it on some level because there really is no way for anyone to prove they aren't.

---

What is the point behind all those slippery slopes? I've played in Feast, got one of the top 100 rewards, haven't met much of this supposedly rampant cheating everybody likes to throw around. I'm sure you can probably find me one or two specific examples that I'm not aware of as I could also give you one specific player on Light that was infamous for win trading in early EW with 2 accounts, but that's quite going on a limb to say that it's suddenly rampant, especially when you haven't even played Feast at Diam level (am I right?). That's frankly disingenuous and your fear mongering is nothing but toxic for the mode: if you'd be trying to push away every player from ranked you'd not do any better.

Edit: to put things in perspective, I haven't played Feast nearly as much as I have CC, and in Feast I've never ever had a single anchor in my team or in the opposite team in the ranks where it mattered, but perhaps I've been lucky? In CC, and again in the ranks where it matters, I think I can count the amount of times I've had one of those either in my team or in the other team in the fingers of my hands over the course of thousands of games, but I'm sure it makes it rampant, right?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Valence

What is the point behind all those slippery slopes? I've played in Feast, got one of the top 100 rewards, haven't met much of this supposedly rampant cheating everybody likes to throw around. I'm sure you can probably find me one or two specific examples that I'm not aware of as I could also give you one specific player on Light that was infamous for win trading in early EW with 2 accounts, but that's quite going on a limb to say that it's suddenly rampant, especially when you haven't even played Feast at Diam level (am I right?). That's frankly disingenuous and your fear mongering is nothing but toxic for the mode: if you'd be trying to push away every player from ranked you'd not do any better.

Edit: to put things in perspective, I haven't played Feast nearly as much as I have CC, and in Feast I've never ever had a single anchor in my team or in the opposite team in the ranks where it mattered, but perhaps I've been lucky? In CC, and again in the ranks where it matters, I think I can count the amount of times I've had one of those either in my team or in the other team in the fingers of my hands over the course of thousands of games, but I'm sure it makes it rampant, right?

---

It's cope. Pure, unfiltered cope. It's justifying why they deserve to have something by invalidating the efforts of others. You just don't take it seriously.

Even without experience, any layman can take a look at the current top 300 leaderboard and see that multiple people have over 1000 wins (nearly 2000 games played assuming 50-54% win rate) in a single season to secure a placement. Which is probably more games than the people who dismiss it all as cheating have on the entirety of the life of their account including all alts combined lol.

If you aren't willing to put in the effort it takes, just say so. Its okay if its not worth it to you, just like grinding the same EX trial boss mechanics 99 times or putting 200hrs into an Ultimate clear isnt worth it for others.

There will never be a constructive discussion here besides encouraging people to express they want the rewards available again then wait patiently to see if it happens. Realistically good information here eventually does make its way to people on the dev team where it matters.
One problem is this isn't a forum for discussing exploits. Even mentioning them is advertising them, so we can't be very explicit talking about them and that leaves room for disinformation. It's not necessarily a bad thing, because this forum shouldn't be about that, so it is what it is.
Ignore people who say returning these rewards is somehow bad. We're still playing the game and playing more in the future for old rewards is a good thing. Moogle Tomestone events are very popular because they return exclusive items from years ago and lots of people return for them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Just because you don't want to admit it was there and happened often doesn't mean it didn't, especially with the amount of coverage it got to the point it's been argued the reason the Feast was removed to begin with was because it was a lost cause, or that the reason Ranked Crystalline Conflict offers virtually nothing worthwhile is because they didn't want to create another reason for people to cheat for time-limited rewards (not that it stopped all of them, but it seems to have stopped most). Incidentally, Ranked has consistent queue problems even on the busiest data centers, can't imagine why, it's almost like there's no real incentive and you can't trust everyone who might play.

But let's pretend for a moment that cheating occurred 000.1% of the time like you say it did, I wouldn't even personally benefit from the Feast coming back and the rewards returning because I already know it's beyond my skill level (same reason I don't play Ranked even if it had amazing rewards), but the more people keep trying to argue against it, to having something else worth playing for season after season, the more I'm convinced its either because they know the cheating would be just as bad (if not worst) or because they're trying to make the rewards seem so absolutely worthless, they're best left forgotten to history. With that in mind, I certainly hope I never see the people who demand the Feast rewards stay exclusive ever complain about Series rewards coming back, because clearly if they love one type of timed-exclusive and FOMO, they must surely love the other, and the next time a seasonal reward goes into the cash shop, I expect a round of applause for that matter.

---

1) Where did I say it never happened? And why do you then proceed to say that I said it did 0.001% of the time? Make up your mind?
2) If you think the Feast was removed because of win trading, I think you're really fooling yourself. Team ranked was, not the solo mode. Feast has gone because Feast was not successful. Win trading wasn't the problem, the main issue has always been alt accounts being allowed on leaderboards by the way, which isn't cheating, but I'm actually annoyed that it took the devs 10 years to do something about that only in 7.1.
3) Ranked has queue problems because ranked, like in any multiplayer game, is a small minority of players, which compounded by XIV being a MMO with many other things to do in, makes that not everybody is queuing 24/24 for ranked. Queues not being always active just because "win trading is pushing people away"... That's borderline conspi.
4) Are you implying I'm arguing against your toxic conspirationist takes just because I'm aware and profiting of cheating myself? The moment you will understand that you're literally flinging shit at everybody playing the mode with your takes, perhaps we'll be able to talk in a less confrontational manner, but for now, you're being incredibly offensive and crummy.
5) If you're not even playing the mode, I have no idea how you can even gauge or state that the cheating is I quote, "rampant". Play the mode seriously for multiple seasons, and maybe I'll take you more seriously, because right now this is just baseless rumourmongering.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Hell, it's not even like my own efforts in PVP haven't been equally invalidated because of cheaters and premades, where I can not say with certainty that all of the mounts, minions, emotes, glams, and titles I have weren't earned illegitimately because that's just how often the spoon-feeding seems to happen ...but if people are going to insist that cheating is non-existent and premades a non-factor, then I guess I'm way better than I think and should in fact want the Feast back for myself after all then, eh?

---

1) Feast was a mediocre mode, good riddance.
2) My post history should be enough to show that I have stated multiple times that I don't give a crap about old exclusive top 100 rewards to make a come back for everyone to enjoy.
3) Nobody is insisting that cheating is non existent, that's just you strawmaning.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

The only people invalidating their efforts are the Feast-goers themselves. Either they're too scared of new competition (or cheaters) when it comes to bringing the mode back, or the rewards are literally not worth the effort to return even as 1 mogtome garbage. So which is it? I wouldn't even stand to get the rewards myself because I wouldn't play the mode, but that doesn't mean I don't want it back for others to play if they want to, especially with PVP already feeling like a neglected mode. Ha... or maybe you're one of those casuals who's miffed about the glut of hardcore content for PVE that the idea of adding hardcore content for PVP is going too far? It's okay, you're among friends on that account when it comes to casual starvation right now.

Hell, it's not even like my own efforts in PVP haven't been equally invalidated because of cheaters and premades, where I can not say with certainty that all of the mounts, minions, emotes, glams, and titles I have weren't earned illegitimately because that's just how often the spoon-feeding seems to happen ...but if people are going to insist that cheating is non-existent and premades a non-factor, then I guess I'm way better than I think and should in fact want the Feast back for myself after all then, eh?

---

This is the most unhinged thing I've ever read. Find Hydaelyn.

Hi. New to the conversation. Just throwing in my two cents:

Bring back The Feast for a single season's length. Top 100 get their choice of previous Feast rewards. Run yearly.

Echoing the sentiment that old Feast rewards shouldn't sit somewhere collecting dust.

Far less people would use ultimate weapon glams if they weren't tied to ultimate content. A huge reason people even want them is because they're rare or hard to acquire, without that aspect the popularity of those things would drop off a cliff.

Same thing with glams, titles etc. People always want to show off their rare things, the rarity is the point. Don't pretend otherwise.

There should be more rewards like that, not less. 90% of the rewards in this game are participation rewards or freebies, people should be rewarded for playing well or being the best. I'm of the opinion that there should be exclusive titles for getting world/server firsts, things along those lines.

MMOs are not designed to be 100% completed. You, nor I, nor anyone ever will have all the achievements or rewards this game has had, and that's fine.

Missing out on things is an intended part of the experience. In SOME cases I think FOMO can be good, just not in casual content. The old battle pass stuff should come back, because it was never meant to be exclusive nor was it any sort of achievement to acquire. Things like The Firmament titles, old Feast stuff, the legacy tattoo, that stuff should remain rare, because rare things should exist in MMOs. I say this knowing full well I'm never going to get some of those things, and that's fine. I wasn't there, and if I was I chose not to compete because I didn't like the content so that's on me, I'll live.

There is no shortage of easy to acquire, really cool/cute looking things in this game, why is it so bad for some rare or exclusive stuff to exist?