So about Chaotic Alliance...

Rewards mess aside, difficulty aside.

... what is exactly the point of allowing 12 people groups to do the fight if none of the mechanics will scale down to this number of players? I assumed that the fight would scale with the number of people, not just stay at mechanics for 24 people while allowing half of them as some kind of asinine joke for when groups under 24 reach that mechanic.

Condemning Chaotic Alliance to frustrating pf shenanigans (unless you are a streamer/high end raider with 24+ good players) is just a baffling and idiotic decision.

Chaotic Alliance mechanics should have scaling according to the amount of people.

For when we have higher ilvl and fewer people are interested in the content later.

If they allowed us to run it with 12 off the bat, people would just do it with 12 because it's easier to organise and there are fewer points of failure. At that point, they might as well just make it an extreme trial.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

For when we have higher ilvl

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it's synced to IL735 though

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

For when we have higher ilvl and fewer people are interested in the content later.

If they allowed us to run it with 12 off the bat, people would just do it with 12 because it's easier to organise and there are fewer points of failure. At that point, they might as well just make it an extreme trial.

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It was supposed to be an extreme trial but, as usual, they overtune it and make it on par with savage 3.

I understand mounts and some gear or weapons but putting the hair in the trial was a bad idea.

At best, I can play one hour a day if I am lucky so I really can’t do prog as that takes hours of commitment.

As it stands now, the only people I have seen who have cleared it are legends or holders of 735 weapons. If they add anymore savage content before any new midcore or casual content… sigh… who am I fooling…

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

it's synced to IL735 though

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It won't be later when you can load in unsynced.

I also wouldn't be surprised if you can clear it with 12 players with synced 735 BiS later. Can't remember how far above ilvl you need to be to cap substats.

Honestly I just be happy when PF finally decides on a uniform strat to use for the fight. I tried to get into a fresh prog party last night and I was overwhelmed with all the diffenet raidplanners that are going around. I had no clue which group to join at all. I hope Hector is making a video bc I HATE raid planners and trying to learn a fight using them. Sucks bc I want to get started as soon as possible bc I know this fight will die very fast the longer I wait.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Honestly I just be happy when PF finally decides on a uniform strat to use for the fight. I tried to get into a fresh prog party last night and I was overwhelmed with all the diffenet raidplanners that are going around. I had no clue which group to join at all. I hope Hector is making a video bc I HATE raid planners and trying to learn a fight using them. Sucks bc I want to get started as soon as possible bc I know this fight will die very fast the longer I wait.

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Some of the Discord servers that organise BA/DRS runs are hosting chaotic alliance raid runs. I'd just go with one of those if you don't want to have to deal with PF.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

It was supposed to be an extreme trial but, as usual, they overtune it and make it on par with savage 3.

I understand mounts and some gear or weapons but putting the hair in the trial was a bad idea.

At best, I can play one hour a day if I am lucky so I really can’t do prog as that takes hours of commitment.

As it stands now, the only people I have seen who have cleared it are legends or holders of 735 weapons. If they add anymore savage content before any new midcore or casual content… sigh… who am I fooling…

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Yeah, that's what I heard from the Mr happy video that this fight was supposed to be around the extreme level not the savage level. Have no clue why the devs felt they needed to make it harder...hardcore raiders already got ultimate this patch...casual and midcore players haven't gotten anything at all.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Some of the Discord servers that organise BA/DRS runs are hosting chaotic alliance raid runs. I'd just go with one of those if you don't want to have to deal with PF.

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Well not the ones Im in. The BA one I used back in SB only does BA and DRS runs. I haven't seen anyone talking about a CAR discord yet.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Honestly I just be happy when PF finally decides on a uniform strat to use for the fight. I tried to get into a fresh prog party last night and I was overwhelmed with all the diffenet raidplanners that are going around. I had no clue which group to join at all. I hope Hector is making a video bc I HATE raid planners and trying to learn a fight using them. Sucks bc I want to get started as soon as possible bc I know this fight will die very fast the longer I wait.

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Depents.
EU seems to sette on wfJ as a strat and it's more or less the only one I see.
Sometimes hen is still around but that was mostly a day 1 thing.

I hope people stay at wfJ because imo it is the best strat with the least mixing of the parties and I hope Happys strat stays in NA and doesn't come to EU...

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Some of the Discord servers that organise BA/DRS runs are hosting chaotic alliance raid runs. I'd just go with one of those if you don't want to have to deal with PF.

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I keep hearing about that but never found a link. Do you have one?

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Well not the ones Im in. The BA one I used back in SB only does BA and DRS runs. I haven't seen anyone talking about a CAR discord yet.

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Ah, well IDK about NA but we have multiple that will be running it in EU. It might be worth checking a few servers. IDK how many you have for Eureka/Bozja stuff.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Depents.
EU seems to sette on wfJ as a strat and it's more or less the only one I see.
Sometimes hen is still around but that was mostly a day 1 thing.

I hope people stay at wfJ because imo it is the best strat with the least mixing of the parties and I hope Happys strat stays in NA and doesn't come to EU...

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NA can be a nightmare for this stuff...I still remember the days of eden where there was like 3 or 4 ways ppl did Light's Rampart in E8S...Its the reason I avoid PF in savage or higher content and rather find a static. I still haven't cleared M4S since my static and I had to part ways. I don't want to deal with PF...I have some really bad exp with PFs in the past.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

NA can be a nightmare for this stuff...I still remember the days of eden where there was like 3 or 4 ways ppl did Light's Rampart in E8S...Its the reason I avoid PF in savage or higher content and rather find a static. I still haven't cleared M4S since my static and I had to part ways. I don't want to deal with PF...I have some really bad exp with PFs in the past.

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It's the same in EU usually.
Every PF has it's own strategy till they settle on hector with a twist mostly.
Honestly this is the first time I have seen so few strats here.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Lunar Forays.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

I keep hearing about that but never found a link. Do you have one?

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Lunar Forays.

24 person statics are slowly rearing their ugly heads...