Favored Bait Chart (My Ongoing Project)

This is a simple to understand color coded set of bait charts.

Green: Favored Bait Confirmed by Me/Vesper or Confirmed by Community with Screenshots.
Purple: Favored Bait Confirmed by word of mouth via community
Blue: Normal non favored Bite rate


CLICK HERE FOR CHART


I put in a large amount of time on each fish with each bait before I mark it with a color and move on. But with the way the system is you are not guaranteed to always get a "SOMETHING BIG HITS YOUR LINE/THE FISH SEEM TO BE BITING ON" message. I have gotten a message one night against a certain fish over and over. Then the same fish with the same bait I will not get that message for weeks. So as you can see there is room for error here.

I plan to overtime fish every fish with every bait myself, but even so there will be some doubt on the blue marked fish. I could really use other fishers help on this.



How You Can Help

If you find this chart useful please give me a hand and pay attention when fishing more.

1. Look for fish that I have marked blue and if you notice you in fact get a favored bite ("SOMETHING BIG HITS YOUR LINE/THE FISH SEEM TO BE BITING ON") Screenshot it.

2. Make sure that the Message saying which lure they are biting on is in the screenshot as well as the dialogue that shows you successfully caught it. This way I can update the chart with information I may have not been able to get myself.

3. Upload this image to this thread (I will be checking in every few days).



Current Goal

Also note that my current goal is to finish the Saltwater bait chart off first. The Freshwater one is coming in the future.

Feel free to upload screenshots to help me fill in information that is missing from either chart. I just ask that you provide a screenshot as outlined above and then I shall add it to the chart and give you a credit as one of the contributing fishers for the project.

I saw your post on fantaji first, I hope you don't mind me using it on my ls website

Okay guys Version 1.8 is now up. I apologize for the delay, I was on vacation, ended up proposing to my GF of three years and everything has been a bit hectic. Updates will hopefully be more frequent. Anyways here are the update notes!

Vesper's Favored Bait Chart V1.8 Notes

The Following lures have been tested against the fish listed. View the actual charts for the results of the test.


===Cage Feeder===

Haroldr Haddock
Malm Kelp
Saber Sardine
Wahoo
White Coral

===Goby Ball===

Ash Tuna
Bianaq Bream
Blowfish
Blue Coral
Hammerhead Shark
Indigo Herring
Malm Kelp
Red Coral
Silver Shark
White Coral

===Herring Ball===
Haroldr Haddock
Malm Kelp
Saber Sardine
Wahoo
White Coral

===Sinking Minnow===

Ash Tuna
Binaq Bream
Blowfish
Blue Coral
Hammerhead Shark
Haroldr Haddock
Indigo Herring
Malm Kelp
Red Coral
Saber Sardine
Silver Shark
Wahoo
White Coral

===Spoon Lure===

Haroldr Haddock
Malm Kelp
Saber Sardine
Wahoo
White Coral

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=160499

First of all thank you for this information! This is great and will help a lot! :) However, I have a few questions about the behavior of the favored bait phases which you may be able to answer since you've put in a lot of time observing this system.

1) Fishing with Goby Balls in Grade 3/4 waters near Limsa I'd periodically get the 'favored bait' message and (if I'm remembering correctly) I was getting that message for a variety of different fish that I'd pull in every during a 'Goby Ball favored bait phase.' This appears to be consistent with the data on your chart as well. However, my question is do the 'favored bait' phases always work like this? At a particular time, in a given zone/location/grade of water, if Goby Balls are the favored bait of the hour (or however long it is) do all the fish on your table that love Goby Balls start biting on them at the same time? Or is that something that triggers independently for each fish? Meaning it was just luck that multiple fish were biting on Goby Balls at the same time in the instance above.

2) Is there always a 'favored bait' that is active at any given time? Or is that something that appears to be occurring in random windows? Ex: White Coral only have two favored baits; Goby Balls and Rat Tails. So, if I fish up some White Coral while using Goby Balls and I don't get a favored bait message does that mean they will be jonesing for Rat Tails?

Hopefully those questions make sense and thanks ^^;

NP, I enjoy working on this chart, gives me something to do since beign rank 50 my goal is no longer SP oriented!

There is always a favored bait for each fish, with some exceptions.. Malm Kelp has no favored and it is my assumption that rare fish (Ocean Clouds and such) may not even have a favored bait. So in the case of White coral using either Goby Balls or Rat Tails is just going to make it easier to get them. Favored baits definitely do not alternate and there is no specific time for when they work.

I have no idea on the specifics of SE's system for how each fish is caught. My assumption is that each condition you mean gives you a % chance in your favor, so for instance.

• Properly Geared Out, Appropriate Rank and Stats % Increase to hit fish at the depth you aiming at
• Using the Favored Bait % chance to pull the specific fish that bite at that bait.

Also Note: Just because a bait is favored by a fish does not mean you will be getting that message often. For instance Crayfish favor choco flies, but personally I see that message once every 40-50 pulls of crayfish.

Any info on favored bait for Southern Pikes yet? ^^ Do you think it's just the same as the Northerns?

Not atm Moth, sorry. Currently I am trying to completely test all Saltwater fish first. But give the northern pike bait a shot, may work out. Also as stated before if you post info on what you find thats not on the chart I can fill it in with purple until I get to testing and confirming it myself.

And another thing. I have noticed in a few instances where I am not getting favored bites on some fish with some baits that others have said worked for them. In those instances I am just marking them blue for non favored... If ANYONE ever comes across a fish I have marked as non favored and you get a favored bite with that lure, please screenshot you chatbox showing the FISH IS BITING HARD and the fish caught. That way I can make the adjustments.

ok, so, just to clarify. The message I've been seeing states, "The fish seem to be biting on (x)." Is this the favored bait message? or is there another message that states they're biting hard on (x)? Which may signify that there are different different tiers of favored baits.

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Rob_Anybody

ok, so, just to clarify. The message I've been seeing states, "The fish seem to be biting on (x)." Is this the favored bait message? or is there another message that states they're biting hard on (x)? Which may signify that there are different different tiers of favored baits.

Thanks :)

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The fish seem to be biting on...

That is the favored message.

Excellent stuff, I especially like how easy it is to use!

+1

Saltwater 2.0 Chart Now Online!

Cage Feeder, Floating Minnow & Spoon Lure have been tested against the following Saltwater Catches.

Ash Tuna
Bianaq Bream
Blowfish
Blue Coral
Hammerhead Shark
Indigo Herring
Red Coral
Silver Shark

How about replacing colors with some signs, or geometrical figures? For 7% of male population, affected by red-green color blindness (myself including), it is almost impossible to tell the difference between blue and purple, etc. Thank you.

Saltwater Chart has been updated!

Note: I Mistakenly called it 1.9 in the comment update and on the actual chart. I am not going to change it atm, too lazy. Be assured the current chart is the most up-to-date.

I apologize for the link hiatus. I ended up moving to a new state and everything has been really hectic. Things are calming down so we will hopefully see updates flowing more often, but no guarantees. The link below will bring you to the most up to date charts!


The Following baits BLOODWORM, CRAB BALL, FLOATING MINNOW, HERRING BALL, LUGWORM, PILL BUG & RAT TAIL have been tested against the fish below. My research next takes me to the waters of Bloodshore...

Ash Tuna
Bianaq Bream
Blowfish
Blue Coral
Hammerhead Shark
Indigo Herring
Red Coral
Silver Shark

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=160499

thank you very much Vesper. Saw your posts on DotLand and really appreciate it.

Saltwater Chart: 2.2 Update Notes

The Following baits BLOODWORM, CAGE FEEDER, CRAB BALL, FLOATING MINNOW, GOBY BALL, HERRING BALL, LUGWORM, PILL BUG, RAT TAIL, SINKING MINNOW, and SPOON LURE have beest tested against the fish below.

Nautilus
Rothlyt Oyster
Sea Pickle

My research next takes me back to just outside the great city of Limsa Lominsa and the Bearded Rock area!

CLICK HERE FOR THE ACTUAL CHART!

Saltwater Chart: 2.3 Update Notes

The Following baits BLOODWORM, CAGE FEEDER, CRAB BALL, FLOATING MINNOW, GOBY BALL, HERRING BALL, LUGWORM, PILL BUG, RAT TAIL, SINKING MINNOW, and SPOON LURE have beest tested against the fish below.

Merlthor Goby
Finger Shrump
Sea Cucumber
Ocean Cloud
Tiger Cod
Vongola Clam

I haven't kept up with the multitude of dev posts and such, so maybe this has already been explained (or analyzed by players), but:

What is the effect of favored bait?

In my experience, it just means an instant bite upon casting my rod. I haven't done any sort of data collection to determine if there is any other effect (like higher % of a fish type, or any effect on the stamina gauge). Any thoughts?

Using the proper bait increases your odds of catching a fish that favors that bait. Add in proper gear and stats, proper depth and proper rank it increases more. Finally if you go to a fishing hole and use a bait that only ONE of those fish prefer it increases your odds yet a bit more.

2.4 Update Notes

The Following baits BLOODWORM, CAGE FEEDER, CRAB BALL, FLOATING MINNOW, GOBY BALL, HERRING BALL, LUGWORM, PILL BUG, RAT TAIL, SINKING MINNOW, and SPOON LURE have beest tested against the fish below.

Black Sole
Coral Butterfly
Helmet Crab
Razor Clam

With the exception of revisions this completes the saltwater chart. I am moving onto the Freshwater chart now, expect to see more updates rolling out soon.

The Following baits BASS BALL, BLOODWORM, CHOCOBO FLY, CRAYFISH BALL,CROW FLY, MIDGE BASKET, MOTH PUPA, RAT TAIL, SNURBLE FLY, SYRPHID BASKET, TOPWATER FROG, VULTURE FLY and WILDFOWL FLY have been tested against the fish below.

Black Ghost
Box Turtle
Crayfish
Dark Bass
River Crab

Sticky this!

The mods/community reps here really don't do much, I have never seen them sticky anything my a community member.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6...59f5f9cdb5.jpg

Bone Crayfish favours Topwater Frogs, noticed it wasn't on the chart, idk if you're still updating or even playing, but there you go.

No SS but after 10 minutes of using a topwater frog for box turtles I turned up zero box turtles. This was as a 50 fisher in grade 3. Seems topwater frogs are not a favored bait anymore.