PLEASE let us keep tank stance on when level sync'ing...

This is all. Please.

feel you. i also don't understand what's the reason behind turning tank stance off when level sync'ing ?
more than once it happened to me that i turn it on by habit only to have turned it off by accident on these rare occasions duty roulette actually provided an encounter that's my level range. :'>

"Yeah uhh when people get level synced we should clear their buffs so they don't have effects they wouldn't have that level. Yeah just clear them all, who cares, this will not be a problem ever"
-Some undertrained dev in 2011

"Sorry yeah we can't update old systems in the game anymore because there's too much legacy code that nobody in the company knows what it does anymore. Dunno how it happened, kinda crazy tho"
-A different undertrained dev in 2023

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Originally Posted by Angelivia

i also don't understand what's the reason behind turning tank stance off when level sync'ing ?

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The game is trying to clear all buffs on your character to prevent you from having something you shouldn't have, it doesn't affect just Tanks, every job gets all their stuff reset on sync, normally you don't feel it, but if you are trying to farm FATEs, you can suddenly see 200 total Black/White Mana from a RDM disappear in one button click.

It's why I prefer to do FATE farming in areas with high level enough that you don't need to sync, Living Memory and Heritage Found for DT.

Tank stance should be removed, Tanks should just always have higher hate gain. Between provoke and shirk there's no need for tank stances

It's funny, you lose tank stance when you go from unsynced to synced, but you keep your stance when you go from synced to unsynced. Great. Excellent. Good job. :^)

Please let us keep tank stance on when we sync for duties.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

Tank stance should be removed, Tanks should just always have higher hate gain. Between provoke and shirk there's no need for tank stances

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Genuinely disagree unless Shirk actually has the cooldown dropped significantly. There are fights where you have to swap more often than you can you can Shirk in a short time (Ultimate difficulty duties usually, but not exclusively), where taking off tank stance is important to prevent accidental overtake after your co-tank already Provoked, usually due to an upcoming burst window. Aside from that, some tanks like Dark Knight have a monstrous opening burst at high levels, which can result in accidental enmity ripping VERY easily if tank stance enmity boost was just baseline.

There is also the utility of Shirk allowing you to give your co-tank a burst of enmity after they died recently to ensure enmity #2 mechanics (mostly but not always busters) can be done without having to use Provoke by them. And then there is also the system/UI level of design that interests healers of which tank is the pulling tank, which is highlighted by... the tank stance buffs. It offers a lot of clarity.

I can see the benefit of tank stance buffs not being cleansed off when syncing down for quality of life (then again just press the button, lol - just make it part of your opener), but the outright removal of tank stances involves moving a lot more parts and details than is actually necessary, for no tangible benefit.

Solution: Shirk is 30 seconds, can target alliance members, and can only target tanks. It sounds like it should be like that already.

Otherwise, double down on the "forget to press the carbon copy stance button that just gets left on the entire time yet has to be reactivated for every duty and FATE" meta.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Solution: Shirk is 30 seconds, can target alliance members, and can only target tanks. It sounds like it should be like that already.

Otherwise, double down on the "forget to press the carbon copy stance button that just gets left on the entire time yet has to be reactivated for every duty and FATE" meta.

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Would work, would still like if there was some external indicator to signify which of two/three/six tanks is the one intending to hold the boss at the start, which stances tend to provide. I think locking Shirk to "tanks only" though limits potential creativity.

I remember 1-1-6 compositions being run in certain ultimates where you had a Monk take one or two of the busters with a lot of external mitigation to get around the use of an extra tank. Niche, but fun. If the worry is "you can grief partymembers with it", you are already a tank - you can just drop any and all AOEs on teammates and grief them that way.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Solution: Shirk is 30 seconds, can target alliance members, and can only target tanks. It sounds like it should be like that already.

Otherwise, double down on the "forget to press the carbon copy stance button that just gets left on the entire time yet has to be reactivated for every duty and FATE" meta.

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Shirk on non-tanks has actual use in UWU to make clearing enrage easier.


Back on-topic: Blue Mage's Aetheric Mimicry and Mighty Guard don't get cleared when you switch duties, and now Pictomancer automatically has all 3 of its Motifs painted for it when it zones into a new duty. Why can't we have tanks zone in with their stance on?

Dance Partner has the same quirk. Only really noticeable when you are doing older treasure maps with a maps static, but when you're syncing through a portal every few minutes and keep having to toggle it back on between the fight outside and the first fight inside, it gets kinda old fast.

Before someone defends that -- sure, it's not fully impossible that your partnering priority list for who you want to partner might change based on other party members' job balance at different levels, but that's more like a rare edge case than something that should be the default assumption. And if your party is that much into optimization, you wouldn't be going into a maps dungeon on the dancer job to begin with.

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

Shirk on non-tanks has actual use in UWU to make clearing enrage easier.


Back on-topic: Blue Mage's Aetheric Mimicry and Mighty Guard don't get cleared when you switch duties, and now Pictomancer automatically has all 3 of its Motifs painted for it when it zones into a new duty. Why can't we have tanks zone in with their stance on?

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Because unlike Aetheric Mimicry (don't understand why Mighty Guard though), Motifs and also Arcana, there actually is a state of not wanting your stance on at the start of the duty. Motifs and Arcana don't have a single state where you logically want them to be undrawn at the start of a duty. They also reload automatically after a wipe.

If it simply remembered if we had the stance active or not when zoning in, that would be fine. But making zoning in automatically activate your stance is just flipping the script in any duty where you have two or more tanks that one or more now are expected to take theirs off.