Need an Auction House

The market ward system is one of the dumbest ideas of all time. The only problem with FFXI's auction hosue is that you can only list 7 items.

BRING BACK AUCTION HOUSE!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House


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We seriously do.

And link them together so Ul'Dah isn't the only place to find crap.

Speaking of which, I am going to post my suggestion on a hybrid of the AH/Wards that takes the best for both, I'm mostly fine tuning it now since it's a bit sloppy, however when I get it done I'll post it.

Melgium, did you seriously need to make ANOTHER thread about this.

Hell i think this is like the 5th thread about it you personaly have made

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Melgium, did you seriously need to make ANOTHER thread about this.

Hell i think this is like the 5th thread about it you personaly have made

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This thread is actually a month old.. and was revived by somebody else. Otherwise I would agree.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Melgium, did you seriously need to make ANOTHER thread about this.

Hell i think this is like the 5th thread about it you personaly have made

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Actually this is an old thread I brought back. Because we do need a AH and people complain when you make a forum topic the same as another so I just bumped it with my thought.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

And link them together so Ul'Dah isn't the only place to find crap.

Speaking of which, I am going to post my suggestion on a hybrid of the AH/Wards that takes the best for both, I'm mostly fine tuning it now since it's a bit sloppy, however when I get it done I'll post it.

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Look forward to reading it!

Is it April 19th yet? No only 14 more days damm.

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Originally Posted by Grit

This thread is actually a month old.. and was revived by somebody else. Otherwise I would agree.

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ok my bad then

im used to Belgium doing stuff like this lol, so its not like it couldnt have been him making a new thread

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Originally Posted by Jedgar

Is it April 19th yet? No only 14 more days damm.

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I want Portal 2 already!!!!

Well belgian made a post about it, two things will happen. A troll war will start here and in a week the next letter from the producer will say they're implementing AH's.

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Originally Posted by Anathiel

Well belgian made a post about it, two things will happen. A troll war will start here and in a week the next letter from the producer will say they're implementing AH's.

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I hope for this =) good times.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ok my bad then

im used to Belgium doing stuff like this lol, so its not like it couldnt have been him making a new thread

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I thought the same thing at first.

On topic... No economic system will ever be more functional than an Auction House. It's just not possible. People will always complain about the retainer system... and for good reason.

However, if SE had taken the time to develop some real aesthetic value for the wards, along with numerous other features.. I think the player base would have been more accepting.

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Originally Posted by Grit

I thought the same thing at first.

On topic... No economic system will ever be more functional than an Auction House. It's just not possible. People will always complain about the retainer system... and for good reason.

However, if SE had taken the time to develop some real aesthetic value for the wards, along with numerous other features.. I think the player base would have been more accepting.

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Like player quests? I remember when I was reading about Huxley they mentioned something like that for the game. Pretty much put a bulletin out with your Retainer and you can make your own story if you like ''My cat is missing but she loves the smell of marmot pelts please assist me and I will reward you with X amount of GIL!''. Similar to the retainer can buy things. But you don't need the item or X amount of the item to buy it just need to know the full name (similar to how players in WoW show off their gear) Plus if it is in quest format it will seem idk more fun? Things always seem more fun with a story. it will also be good for the RP community.

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Originally Posted by Grimm

Like player quests? I remember when I was reading about Huxley they mentioned something like that for the game. Pretty much put a bulletin out with your Retainer and you can make your own story if you like ''My cat is missing but she loves the smell of marmot pelts please assist me and I will reward you with X amount of GIL!''. Similar to the retainer can buy things. But you don't need the item or X amount of the item to buy it just need to know the full name (similar to how players in WoW show off their gear) Plus if it is in quest format it will seem idk more fun? Things always seem more fun with a story. it will also be good for the RP community.

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Sure, why not?

We don't even have bazaar comments of any kind in FFXIV.. a game where the entire economic system is based around leaving an NPC in a market to bazaar items for you.

Ppl complain because they refuse to be smart and rather be dumb down :P QFT.

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Originally Posted by Grit

I thought the same thing at first.

On topic... No economic system will ever be more functional than an Auction House. It's just not possible.

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Guess it depends on what Auction House system we're talking about...

Market Wards and Auction House

- Both have categories you browse
- Both require you to go to x location to access
- Both is where the majority of players sell/buy their stuff.
- Both require players to be resonable

Differences

- Buying from Search (already a planned feature for Wards)
- Searching items by typing*
- Delivery of gil/unsold item (planned feature)

*Not all AH's allow this type of function.

I know I sound like a cranky ho but, PUT IT IN ALREADY! AH YES!

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Guess it depends on what Auction House system we're talking about...

Market Wards and Auction House

- Both have categories you browse
- Both require you to go to x location to access
- Both is where the majority of players sell/buy their stuff.
- Both require players to be resonable

Differences

- Buying from Search (already a planned feature for Wards)
- Searching items by typing*
- Delivery of gil/unsold item (planned feature)

*Not all AH's allow this type of function.

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It's important to remember that FFXI's AH system was flawed in a lot of ways, and other games have improved on the feature quite a bit. The retainer system (I'm assuming) was decided upon because it prevents monopolization of the market.. but the same thing can be achieved with a properly configured Auction House system.

If you could buy items directly from the search pane, what the heck would be the point of the retainer system? I just don't get it. I can't fathom any logical reasons. Couldn't we just list our items on an auction house instead? Couldn't we have a mog house for storage?

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Also, one of the main differences is still going to be ease-of-use. Because you still have to trade your items to your retainer.. then open it's bazaar function and list the item.. then make sure that you put them in the right ward. And put them back in that ward every time the wards crash..

..... *the minority* please sir.. i like the retainer system... .

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Originally Posted by Grimm

Look forward to reading it!

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I'll try to have it up by the weekend at the latest, probably will post it in the "markets and retainers" section when done.

I am clever enough to be able to use the wards correctly, it's pretty easy to navigate maybe need to speed up the porting between wards time but apart from that the system works.

It seems a lot of people in this thread need to have there hands held while buying items.

seriously; i like the current retainer system now; why must change???

Why do people still post on threads that Belgianrofl makes? (yes, I completely realize the irony of this)

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

The market ward system is one of the dumbest ideas of all time. The only problem with FFXI's auction hosue is that you can only list 7 items.

BRING BACK AUCTION HOUSE!

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Lol, one thread that I actually didn't mind seeing you posting. Since no one plus one you, I will!!!

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Why do people still post on threads that Belgianrofl makes? (yes, I completely realize the irony of this)

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LoooooooooooooooooooooooL. Slap yourself silly.

I am truly a huge fan of the retainer system in its current form. Put my vote in the tally of people who wish to NOT see this turn into an Auction House.

Yes*******

No to Auction House!

The wards are turning to an AH anyway with the buy from search. I honestly hardly ever use the wards because it is a hassle. Just give us an AH that is world wide linked so we don't need FFXIAH all over again. AHs are more user friendly and less time consuming for the same features the wards offer in a better way.

only ione proble i have with retainer system is stsnd rental. please allow me to rent it for week. renewin it every 24 hours is tiring. an requires me to go to that town once a day.

I don't mind the market wards at all.

At first it was a 45 minute effort to find equipment but now, with the search feature, it takes all but a minute or two to find what I am looking for.

What I do like about the market wards and what I fear we would lose would be the ability to give my retainer broken gear, and have them camp for repairs.

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Originally Posted by Grimm

Because we do need a AH

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LOLOLOLOL

I want some evidence that says that we NEED an AH over the current system besides the tired "All MMOS have an AH"


The only thing I'd support for an Auction house would be a system that takes your Rare/Unique Gear that you have never worn or gotten repaired and allows you to turn it in and let people bid on. But the game controls all bidding and you get what ever the final bid is and have no control over the starting bid.

Speaking of.

how to keep market wards in use: charge tax as listing fee up front, limit 10 items.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

LOLOLOLOL

I want some evidence that says that we NEED an AH over the current system besides the tired "All MMOS have an AH"

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Because a AH does all the same things just faster, easier, and more player friendly for casuals and hardcore. Let the AH rent storage spaces instead of retainers and it's pretty much a faster system then we have now. Not to mention if they link all the AH world wide no need to look in multiple places.

The Market Ward is the better alternative then Auction House as long as players bot the purchases of any and all desired materials posted under a certain price threshold. How quickly do people forget the line of naked mithras glued to the counters of the Ru'lude Garden auction house 24/7. I enjoy the fact that I have a chance to purchase something from someone undercutting the market value and not be forced to buy everything I need above a certain price because the cheaper posts have all been automatically bought. I am not aware of any script or bot that can enter the wards and walk to a retainer and purchase a selected desired item at any price in an acceptable range and continue to do so endlessly. A few more market ward improvements could set a good trend for the future of item transactions systems in online games.

The addition of an auction house in the games current state would be disastrous. No STF and the difficulty of proving an auction house bot mule over a regular away player standing near the counter is incredibly hard. When a GM says hi, an iphone will say hi back. Crafting is huge in 14 and certain materials will always be highly desirable and players will surely bot to acquire as much as possible. The current majority of materials and shards are already supplied through battle/gather/craft bots and adding an auction house is just giving them a system for instant item to gil transactions.

Any suggestions of adding an auction house like feature to the market ward outside of a convenient but stationary purchase system through bidding would probably be great. But I will be always be happy to walk to that nicely under priced item over being lazy and letting bots claim all the cheap valuables. It only takes one auction house bot to ruin an entire server.

People NEED to learn the difference between the words NEED and WANT

Yup give us global AH's please.

They at least need to make personal sale histories, that way people can stay consistent with prices.