… to the population and communities that the other data centers have? I’ve vague recollections of folks claiming that the ‘flood of new players’ from Danwtrail’s release would cause the servers to flow with - at the minimum - moderate activity. But so far everything remains dead-ish. The duty roulettes pop - but beyond that I don’t really sense much in the way of liveliness.
And with access to Aether severely limited - will more players jump ship the moment that data center opens?
I’m struggling to puzzle out what’s going on and why Dynamis feels like such a ‘nothing burger’ overall. Or am I just being impatient and it still needs a couple of more years to develop?
When will Dynamis ever compare…?
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10-22-2024, 01:24 PMxxmiamorecadenzaWhen will Dynamis ever compare…?
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10-22-2024, 02:11 PMVeyaAkemi
The big problem is that Data Center travel and some DCs being known for certain activities(Aether for raiding, Primal for PvP, Balmung exactly for ERP, etc) means that if you are a Dynamis character and want to do those things, the community encourages you to go to those DCs instead of staying in Dynamis, so even if Dynamis has a high enough number of raiders to sustain a population, it's never going to materialize because those raiders are all in Aether or Primal, it leads to a vicious cycle that is really difficult to break, and it isn't even truly SE's fault, they recent DC travel limitations were meant to discourage this behavior, but they just made inconvenient to play the game.
They'd have to do something to encourage raiding in your home DC, positive reinforcement over negative ones, but I couldn't tell you what that is. -
10-22-2024, 04:15 PMJeeqbit
I was traveling to Dynamis regularly for S ranks when Dawntrail released. What I witnessed there was a very lively data center, with people traveling from all over to play with their friends, RP, recruit to FCs, do the usual things they do at all the city states like Bard music. Roulettes popped, which I think is more than could be said when it was new.
As for whether it will ever be like other data centers, yes. I used to be on Crystal, which got some of the most dead worlds from Aether and Primal and merged them together. Many of the people that were diverted to Crystal by SE decided to transfer back to Aether, leaving Crystal comparatively less populated. It still had established players and FCs who remained, giving it an advantage over how Dynamis is, but its population was comparatively lower than, say, Aether.
At some point, I think at EW release, that changed and Crystal regularly surpassed Aether and Primal in active population and still often does. This was probably thanks to Aether being given Congested status a lot, but it shows that given time, data centers grow.
There is the rather universal issue of "people traveling to Aether to raid" that is an issue for all NA data centers, and will likely hinder Dynamis a lot, but it will still slowly improve over time.
I should mention that your character is on Golem though. There are Dynamis worlds that are further along than others due to being around longer. Seraph often gets Congested status for example. -
10-22-2024, 04:37 PMVeyaAkemiSeraph was the go-to RP world when Dynamis first released, and I believe it is purely because the name sounds cool, I personally picked Marilith for similarly silly reason, being that Marilith is one of the Four Fiends in Final Fantasy 1, and it felt right to pick a server whose name I felt a connection with, it also amused me when Dynamis also got Kraken, though it is a shame Tiamat is in Japan, and Lich and Chaos in Europe, the FF1 big bad team is scattered all over the planet...Quote:
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10-22-2024, 11:49 PMArdeth
When they shut off DC travel and restrict transferring.
This is a player problem. Player A talks up another server. Player B follows them. Player C has to wait 40 minutes for a queue. So they join A and B. Dead server. It's not that bold of a leap in logic. It's never going to get better as long as selfish players take shortcuts.
The players made the serves x, y, and z, not the developers. Any Aether server is exactly the same as any Dynmais server. The only difference is the prestige of the name. That's it.
DC travel is a net positive for the player and a net negative for the game. Because the side effect of it is dead servers. -
10-23-2024, 12:01 AMVerdeLuck
They failed to seed Dynamis properly. They should have done it like they did crystal and taken a few worlds from every other DC to put in Dynamis and given a replacement new world to each of those to replace it.
3 populated worlds would have done a lot to fill out the queues and populate content at the start, and stop the death spiral Dynamis is currently in.
DC Travel didn't help but it's pimarily an SE failing, they didn't get the DC started correctly and it shows.
To answer the question, probably never right now. They funnel new players into Dynamis currently but the general advice everyone tells them is to pay to move to aether or crystal ASAP, there needs to be either a real pull to stay there beyond the initial xp boost. -
10-23-2024, 01:51 AMRabblerabble
I primarily play on Dynamis and came from another DC and in the time I have been here (about 3 months) it has become quite active. Our FC has 27 members and 15 of them are on almost everyday. Most of them were very new players who joined the FC I play in and now they are nearly done with the MSQ. We do a lot of maps and support the friendly community event people. We started a CWLS for activities to keep players on Dynamis for maps and roulettes. Outside of pvp roulette, I make it a point to do 100% of roulettes on my native world.
I think it will appear more lively if people just decide to start taking this kind of approach. I WILL say the markets are all over the place tho. When I first moved here I made about 7 million gil selling furniture, that would have equated to about 500k on other dc's on a "good"day. -
10-23-2024, 02:23 AMDynnDiablos
I wish I had an answer, but it seems never. For some reason, Dynamis never took off - at all. And as long as there is DC travel, folks will keep creating characters on Aether, Crystal and Primal. Honestly, world integration needs to happen and soon. Dissolve Dynamis and split the new worlds among the three other DCs. I am thankfully on Seraph, which is the most populated, but it is still a ghost town. It was sad for me when everyone left after DT.
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10-23-2024, 04:07 AMDarnath
I'll agree with VerdeLuck 100%
Crystal took off because they split off already populated servers from Aether and Primal to birth Crystal rather than starting from scratch IMO.
Between DC travel and not having already established communities Dynamis is basically doomed unless there's some extreme measures taken (DC Travel cut, even more incentivizes to re-roll on Dynamis including having progression groups done there although I dunno how they'd ensure such groups were legit). -
10-23-2024, 04:49 AMGemberSorry jumping off topic here because I like this fluff: The four fiends were scattered across FF1's world too, so it ironically fits in a lore perspective.Quote:
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10-23-2024, 05:02 AMGember
I think the main issue is that they released Dynamis as a new datacenter while releasing datacenter travel roughly around the same time. It didn't have a single chance to grow all throughout Endwalker due to the open travel. Nowadays they sort of have a restriction to help it grow, but honestly; Endwalker just taught a bunch of players that its okay to do different activities on different datacenters; which sadly is a slow death for a lot of unpopulated servers. The amount of complaining that the worlds aren't opening up is a good indication of that. I think SE had good intentions when they implemented DC travel, but the playerbase ruined it.
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10-23-2024, 05:51 AMRyazeI will say this isn't 100% player perception's fault though. When SE broke apart Aether and Primal to make the Crystal DC I was on Brynhildr at the time. People looked at the stats for raiding clear rates and saw that servers that had the highest clear rates were put on Aether, mid ranges were on Primal, and absolute bottom of the barrel + Balmung were put on Crystal. Even at the time Balmung had a heavy notoriety for RP. While the subsequent free transfers that occurred and the mass exodus from Crystal servers reinforced the stereotypes, it was clear SE was trying to present the DCs with a purpose of player activity. This is 100% SE's fault. Instead of trying to average out server clusters they put very clear bias of activity towards DC composition.Quote:
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10-23-2024, 07:32 AMJeeqbitThe clear rates probably reflected how populated they were, for the most part, though.Quote:
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Balmung was flooded at the time. Except for split seconds on Thursday, it was virtually impossible to make a character on there even when I started the game 10 years ago! So people did paid transfers instead. I created a linkshell on there in Heavensward and it filled to 128 people in 2 days. Most of them had just transferred to Balmung.
It was then that I knew Balmung was a bubble and it was going to burst if SE didn't do something. So they split it away and paired it with a lot of notoriously dead servers (logically, dead servers will have low clear rates). Then Balmung would be able to "spread" across these dead servers using the World Visit system, which was actually successful because all the worlds feel populated on most data centers (except the new ones obviously).
You're right though, because of Balmung being the RP server, the side effect of bursting Balmung's bubble and giving them their own data center, is that they spread across all of Crystal making it the "RP data center".Quote:
Even at the time Balmung had a heavy notoriety for RP.
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10-23-2024, 10:03 AMCuteBucket
The current DC restrictions have only made this worse. Now being stuck on Dynamis feels like a punishment and I hear Dynamis players wanting to transfer back to any of the other big three as soon as they can, because they transferred there under the assumption that they would still get to see and play with their friends across all the other DCs, which isn't true anymore. And it also feels like a punishment for me on Aether who made friends across different DCs in Endwalker and has been raiding with them since the beginning of Pandaemonium now that we all finally could get together, because they can't come ever visit me and my house and FC anymore, I can only go visit them.
People want to play with other like minded people, and will find ways of doing this. If they learn that X place has the best of Y activity, they will go there. That's just how people operate. If SE really wants people to go to Dynamis, they need to make it worthwhile. Free transfer and bonus EXP isn't worthwhile for a lot of folks. Shuttering Aether and half the other DCs at primetime just makes going to Dynamis feel like a punishment, like you lost out getting to play on the active servers and are stuck there now, which only makes people want to get out the first opportunity they can.
Dynamis needs its own server identity to thrive. Unfortunately, I don't know if that will ever happen, because right now identity seems to be "sprouts and housing land." I think the best solution would be to make a Cross DC Party Finder. Duty Finder would still pull from local players, but anyone anywhere could make a PF and run raids and harder content from anywhere. Being on Dynamis wouldn't feel like a mistake or punishment then.