I am once again asking for Rival Wings to be added in the PvP Dailies.

Post title says it all.

Rival Wings is still ignored but is only run by Revival Wings. The only reason people even get into Frontlines(which is quite bad, btw) is because of the daily. Rival Wings is really the only real large-scale PvP Mode that actually doesn't waste people's time and helps them get engaged once they learn the mode.

It's not about murder balling, but more about giant robots and objectives in line with MOBAs. I think it'd get a lot of traction if it actually got put in the Roulette(or just given a Daily Bonus since the devs obviously won't give us back Astragalos since they took it down half a decade ago. They really should do something about it, since it's a mode I think a lot of people would enjoy over Frontlines.

7.1 receives PvP adjustments from what i know.
I hope something that revives the mode also gets announced.
Im not a fan of it as i never was able to actualy try it out but having a dead pvp mode is bad.

I would actually really like this. Like, make 2 different roulettes for pvp people. One for frontline and one for Rival Wings. It would at least help to feature pvp content more

I’d like to see this too… I think I’ve only played one match! I have no idea how to play it, and it doesn’t seem to have anyone queueing for it outside of Moogle tome events (and even then, usually through groups running it on other servers). So maybe a daily xp bonus could help it out, because I’d like to learn how to play!

In an ideal world, I'd have it added to its own roulette. You wouldn't even be able to queue for it without completing a tutorial quest that would explain the mode. Nor would you be rewarded - whether your team won or lost- if you didn't contribute,- since the excuse of " I didn't know how this works/I don't know the map/ I don't know how to use a mech/I don't know where to go...etc" would be removed.

However- I doubt any changes will come before the next PvP changes. I would echo that we're WAY overdo for RW content to be brought back.

I mean yeah, but it's long overdue that Rival Wings gets its own thing. Rival Wings only had a lot of problems because of how PvP was back in Heavensward - and Healers being essentially unkillable. That's why the mode kinda died off. Come to now, we still have problems, but they're not game breaking to the extent Heavensward was. Now, we just simply need to deal with the DRK problem which is the draw-in and also buff some jobs(because they only balance for CC and nothing else).

I agree with you—Rival Wings should be added to the PVP roulette, and Hidden Gorge is much more interesting than The Fields of Glory, which is heavily luck-based and frustrating.

Regarding the DRK draw-in problem, SE really needs to address its server delay. It's incredibly infuriating to be pulled back to the original spot from 20 yards away after using Shukuchi.

I was just talking about this with my friends. I love Rival Wings so much more than Frontlines, and I only ever do them because of the daily bonus. If they could add Rival Wings to the daily challenge, that would be golden. It is such an underrated mode. Aside from the dedicated RW groups on certain data centers, it only ever really pops during the Moogle Tomestone events (which is why I look forward to them honestly) which shows if you give people that kind of incentive, they will do it. Please SE, I am begging... make it a daily challenge.

I find Rival Wings much more enjoyable than Frontlines. It's Team vs Team so you don't have to worry about what a third team is doing, and melee doesn't have an enormous amount of damage reduction so ranged jobs actually feel like they can do something.

I wouldn't mind having a dedicated daily for it or just adding it to the Frontlines rotation, since only 1 Rival Wings map is currently available with the other stuck in limbo.

You don't want the mode to be thrown in a roulette with frontlines. We're already forced to play one map a day. Imagine being told that you can't play frontlines today, because it's not on today's schedule.
Create a separate roulette for the mode instead. Hopefully, they'll let us play Astragalos again when they do so. Map been locked ever since the release of Hidden Gorge

I want two separate daily runs, one of FL and one of Rival Wings.
I know that people say "well why don't you play it during the mog tome events", but usually when those events happen I'm taking a "break" from the game (still playing but I get on maybe twice a week to do stuff) and I own pretty much everything anyway/already have treasure map achievements for most.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

I want two separate daily runs, one of FL and one of Rival Wings.
I know that people say "well why don't you play it during the mog tome events", but usually when those events happen I'm taking a "break" from the game (still playing but I get on maybe twice a week to do stuff) and I own pretty much everything anyway/already have treasure map achievements for most.

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See that's the kicker. People do it during Mogtome Events because not only is Revival Wings running daily during that, it's easy Mogtomes for half the time you do for other things. If anything they can easily make RW onto its own daily and it'll be insanely popular next to Frontlines, being populated because it's a new "Daily" mode for people to do; not to mention? There's a cool ass title behind it(1000 Wins).

I'd love to see RW in the Roulette system in any form. I've heard it is great, but why are they so ashamed of it?

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Originally Posted by Morphiana

I'd love to see RW in the Roulette system in any form. I've heard it is great, but why are they so ashamed of it?

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Don't really know. I think it's more they've poured a ton of resources into making Crystalline Conflict what it is.

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

You don't want the mode to be thrown in a roulette with frontlines. We're already forced to play one map a day. Imagine being told that you can't play frontlines today, because it's not on today's schedule.
Create a separate roulette for the mode instead. Hopefully, they'll let us play Astragalos again when they do so. Map been locked ever since the release of Hidden Gorge

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I imagine it would be it's own roulette. We got more and more jobs now, it makes sense to have more roulette

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

You don't want the mode to be thrown in a roulette with frontlines. We're already forced to play one map a day. Imagine being told that you can't play frontlines today, because it's not on today's schedule.
Create a separate roulette for the mode instead. Hopefully, they'll let us play Astragalos again when they do so. Map been locked ever since the release of Hidden Gorge

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Separate roulettes would preserve Frontline’s queue time and would hopefully give Rival Wings a similarly healthy queue time. That’s another reason to want them separate.

Maybe they should finally get around to fixing Astragalos to get a second Rival Wings arena... Then they can add it to the daily rotation of PvP or give it it's own separate daily reward.

I'm interested in this but I also don't want FL to die out either...

I’m torn.

The moment Rival Wing gets their roulette, player performance quality would very likely drop exponentially. But at the same time it’s also not being run outside scheduled timings and/or mogtomes.

Such a shame, really. It’s a fun mode & would shake the monotony of the 3 FL maps we’ve had since 6.2(?)

no they have to bury the one good player versus player idea they've ever had. please stop thinking about this and learn to enjoy the "pvp" game mode where you fight a giant ice themed training dummy alone for 10 minutes while the adders and flames hug and kiss on the other side of the map

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Originally Posted by Silaryn

Separate roulettes would preserve Frontline’s queue time and would hopefully give Rival Wings a similarly healthy queue time. That’s another reason to want them separate.

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Exactly. You already don't have many choices to begin with. I don't want to screw over those that really enjoys frontlines while giving Rivals Wings some attention.

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Originally Posted by Rueby

I'm interested in this but I also don't want FL to die out either...

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I don't see that happening. Frontlines is simple. Rival Wings are more complex. With how big the xp reward is for frontlines I don't see a ton of people ditching the mode that easily.
Is your point valid? Yes. It's easier to get a smaller room to pop than it is a bigger room.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I’m torn.

The moment Rival Wing gets their roulette, player performance quality would very likely drop exponentially. But at the same time it’s also not being run outside scheduled timings and/or mogtomes.

Such a shame, really. It’s a fun mode & would shake the monotony of the 3 FL maps we’ve had since 6.2(?)

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That's expected. Moogle events and Discord groups are the only ones to keep the mode running at specified times. So others that hardly plays it need the time to learn. We both know there's tons to learn there than frontlines. The quality drop will only be temporary. May as well take the time to teach during that time period if they want it :)

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Originally Posted by ffisdead

no they have to bury the one good player versus player idea they've ever had. please stop thinking about this and learn to enjoy the "pvp" game mode where you fight a giant ice themed training dummy alone for 10 minutes while the adders and flames hug and kiss on the other side of the map

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It would be more enjoyable for me if the Elixers did not exist for frontlines.