Please enable Cross region travel EU-NA

please!!!

in this tweet they state that the system is ready to go, the community just needs to let themselves hear for it!!


I've been waiting for this ever since they hinted at it, please I play both regions and I'd like to use 1 character to play both! I know people who have reservations about 'culture' or things changing, but those who want to play on both already do. I don't think much will change besides easing the lives of those who want to travel freely

If anyone needs this its the OC Materia region.

I think OCE is a good alterenative cause I don't want EU PF to be dead cause some peepz think it's smart to flock to the "raiding" dc (it's unlikely that this will happen due to latency but still...). Maybe if they restrict the usage of party finder as Voyager

Yes, I would like this.

All regions have already been meeting on Materia, especially for hunts. I mean literally there are people from EU, JP and NA all in one party and they aren't having a particular problem with eachother. I was also going there for some time to do roulettes to help them out initially and that also wasn't an issue.

And again, we were all meeting on the Cloud DC as well and the culture mix wasn't an issue; we just simply adapted to work with eachother. We are not used to using auto-translate in the NA region but we learned to use it so we could communicate things to the JP players there and we fought all sorts of things together. Everyone there tried to show respect, even people who don't normally.

I'd also have to make the argument that if people want to play in the JP region, they already make an alt to do so. If EU players want to play in the NA region, they already do that on an alt or they transfer. If NA players want to play in the EU region, they already do that on an alt or they transfer. Beside just meeting people I know transferred across regions multiple times or have alts, I also know because I am in discord servers and see some players switching around.

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

I think OCE is a good alterenative cause I don't want EU PF to be dead cause some peepz think it's smart to flock to the "raiding" dc (it's unlikely that this will happen due to latency but still...).

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I think it's unlikely due to latency, as you said. In fact, the motivation would likely be to go to a good-ping DC for raiding and then go somewhere else for other things (friends, roleplaying, etc).

But I think the "switch DC to raid" issue needs to be addressed more generally. The public "High-End" category should be blocked off when traveling to restrict pugging to home DCs, but the private "High-End" category left open so statics can still travel.

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Originally Posted by Amecoeur

If anyone needs this its the OC Materia region.

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The whole 10 people on Materia agree.

That would be amazing :3

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

But I think the "switch DC to raid" issue needs to be addressed more generally. The public "High-End" category should be blocked off when traveling to restrict pugging to home DCs, but the private "High-End" category left open so statics can still travel.

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All public categories should be blocked when DC traveling. People should not be cross-DC traveling to do content with strangers, because it kills the PF on certain DCs.

Once that change is implemented I'll support cross region travel.

The only groups that might be negatively affected are the high-end raid communities and what's left of the non-venue-focused free company communities. You could also make a case for a slight impact on hunts but to a much lesser extent. For everyone else, this change is a clear net positive.

Other local communities in some data centers might also be affected, particularly regarding language barriers in widely used Discord servers that strive for order and organization, such as those for Party Finder or Ultimate Raiding or providing some other resource.

That said, it seems like SE is aiming for an all-or-nothing approach: either allowing full regional data center travel or none at all.

Only if they lock Aether, I want to be able to actually log into the game.

I would really enjoy this finally being enabled. A lot of my friends are on EU and while I do have an alt character trying to keep two characters caught up at the same time is far too time consuming and stressful. I'd really just prefer if I could play with them on my main character.

OCE isn't a good alternative because the lag there is an awful experience for both NA and EU. When playing on EU the lag isn't noticeable but on OCE it is utterly miserable. NA to EU would be a better alternative because at the very least just one group has to suffer some lag as opposed to both groups suffering a great amount of lag. OCE is genuinely unplayable for the most part if you don't actually live there.

It would be really fun if they enabled it. I genuinely don't think there is any downside to it. The damage of DC travel has already been done to PF, it's not going to get worse by adding NA to EU ontop of it. I think restricting PF would be silly cause this prevents people from doing things like map parties or even doing high-end content with their friend groups that don't completely fill out all 8 slots.

Hate but it's too late so go for it. Maybe the high pings will help the devs think about improving the network infrastructure. :)

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Originally Posted by St0rmy

OCE isn't a good alternative because the lag there is an awful experience for both NA and EU. When playing on EU the lag isn't noticeable but on OCE it is utterly miserable. NA to EU would be a better alternative because at the very least just one group has to suffer some lag as opposed to both groups suffering a great amount of lag. OCE is genuinely unplayable for the most part if you don't actually live there.

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I don't know why people say this when everything besides current Extreme/Savage/Ultimate doesn't require good ping. I'm from NA and I've ran content on JP and OCE without issue as long as I'm not greeding GCD's consistently. PvP is affected by ping even moreso than PvE and even then me and others have reached Crystal or top 100 while at 200-300 ping. Hell there's a cross-region PvP tournament being organized and practiced for rn that has LP teams from NA, EU, KR, CN, and JP meeting on OCE to conduct the tournament. If your definition of fun is optimal performance, then sure, it's "unplayable", but you are far from unable to complete content/being an anchor or being able to enjoy yourself while playing with others.

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Originally Posted by Rekh

Only if they lock Aether, I want to be able to actually log into the game.

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I guess, almost nobody from the EU will seriously play on Aether. The connection EU <-> NA is very bad, you get 300 ms ping etc. The second reason has to do with timezones. I do not think, that many EU players will play at 2:00 am.



Cheers

the people doom and glooming about raiding being on one datacenter is kinda wild because eu is not gonna sacrifice sub-50 ping to raid on a datacenter on na.

as for the topic, i want to say they should add it just for posterity's sake but primarily they should add a cross-dc party finder first before opening the gates to eu <-> na transfers with dc travel. materia is also fine as it is since it's an established place where people from na, eu, jp and oce can meet.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

I do not think, that many EU players will play at 2:00 am.

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Yeah uh.. about that.. there's plenty of social events that only take place on NA. You kinda have to be up for those.

About the ping specifically, I usually get 80, up to 120 ping on NA servers from London. I can play MCH without any issues, too. Granted, the cloud server test was even faster.

Plus, the EU servers used to be located in North America.. Titan HW used to be funky yes, but it has gotten so much better since then!

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The public "High-End" category should be blocked off when traveling to restrict pugging to home DCs, but the private "High-End" category left open so statics can still travel.

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If they do that, people are just going to make private parties with the password in the description, or everyone's just going to decide that 0000 or 1234 is the "open to anyone" passwords.

What they could also do is just have anyone with the <<Traveler>> tag be counted as loot locked. so if you're DC traveling, you won't get anything from current savage, and you'll reduce the loot for everyone else too. But it doesn't stop friends from traveling over just to help each other out in a fight.

That wouldn't fix the issue of needing to DC travel to do old raids though. On the one hand, maybe we should let the DCs consolidate for old content since it's a lot harder to find groups for. On the other hand, it takes longer to fill, so people will be under those DC travel restrictions for longer.

As someone who has both a NA and EU friends, having EU/NA data central travel will make this game finally perfect for me.
I still mainly play on EU for having proper ping reasons. but i yearn for being able to play with my NA friends on my main account, since they are useally playing it more then my eu friends. I do have a NA alt, but over a long time it really becomes bothersome to keep leveling that up as well. especially since most of my jobs are leveld on my main and I have glamour/mounts and everything set up.

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Originally Posted by NeoPower

As someone who has both a NA and EU friends, having EU/NA data central travel will make this game finally perfect for me.
I still mainly play on EU for having proper ping reasons. but i yearn for being able to play with my NA friends on my main account, since they are useally playing it more then my eu friends. I do have a NA alt, but over a long time it really becomes bothersome to keep leveling that up as well. especially since most of my jobs are leveld on my main and I have glamour/mounts and everything set up.

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I too play with NA and EU people and we just meet on Materia to run some content.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

I too play with NA and EU people and we just meet on Materia to run some content.

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Not everyone wants to play with 400 MS. The DC travel infrastructure is already there, and Yoshi already said he's ready for region travel, he just needs to "see an interest" in it from the players.